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Hamilton council to get transit task force updates — in secret
Meetings about how to spend $1 billion on transportation in Hamilton must be confidential, says Ministry of Transportation

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/9...tes-in-secret/

The province will allow Hamilton city manager Janette Smith to tell her own council what is discussed by a controversial transportation task force studying alternatives to the cancelled LRT.

But they're still not allowed to tell you.

The Progressive Conservatives cancelled Hamilton's light rail transit line in the middle of construction bidding in December. A task force of provincial appointees, including Smith, will recommend alternative projects to fund with the original $1-billion LRT budget.

The Ministry of Transportation has insisted the task force meet in private and keep discussions confidential to protect "commercially sensitive" information. That initially left Hamilton's city manager uncertain what information she could share with her own council.

A report from Smith now says an updated confidentiality agreement allows council to be "updated in camera" — behind closed doors — on task force deliberations.

The memo from Smith also notes the province has assured the city the $1-billion former LRT budget exists separately from any money requested through a provincial-federal transit funding program.

Some information about the task force will be shared with residents, James Nowlan, head of MTO transit policy and programs, told The Spectator. That includes the general type and number of projects considered, with floated topics so far including highways, bus rapid transit and even a cheaper LRT.

Council members have expressed dissatisfaction about the cloak of secrecy, with Coun. John-Paul Danko accusing the government of deliberately keeping citizens "in the dark" about hugely important local issue.

The city has asked to present local transit information to the task force in public, according to a memo from planning general manager Jason Thorne.

Other organizations are lobbying to present their concerns, too.

The Hamilton Chamber of Commerce, Realtors Association of Hamilton-Burlington and the Hamilton-Halton Home Builders' Association — all vocal supports of LRT — have asked the task force to join a "roundtable discussion" on transit priorities.

Chamber CEO Keanin Loomis said he is keen for task force members to "understand the depth and breadth of support for LRT in the community."
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Ferguson advocates downloading 403 infrastructure to the City. What a maroon.

Hamilton councillors argue about ‘slicing and dicing’ $1B of transportation funds
(Hamilton Spectator, Teviah Moro, Feb 6 2020)

City councillors are starting to squabble publicly about what projects should be pitched to a provincial task force that's exploring how to spend $1 billion on Hamilton transportation initiatives.

Transportation Minister Caroline Mulroney formed the five-member task force after axing Hamilton's long-planned LRT project in mid-December citing ballooning costs.

On Wednesday, Coun. Lloyd Ferguson told his colleagues he'd like to see a westbound Highway 403 on-ramp in Ancaster be funded out of the $1-billion provincial pledge.

There's only one westbound ramp in Ancaster, a scenario that's left Wilson Street "very congested," Ferguson said.

The ground work for a second westbound ramp in the area of the Golf Links Road overpass is done, but the previous and current provincial governments have balked at funding its construction, he said.

Mulroney has given the task force an end-of-February deadline to come up with a preliminary list of potential projects that could be funded out of the $1 billion. The group can meet as long as a year.

An array of transportation projects, including road and highway work and light rail, is included in a menu of options.

On Wednesday, Ferguson proposed the city ask that the ministry — via the task force — to pick up half of the roughly $6-million cost of the 403 on-ramp. "This is a way to give a solution to it."

That, however, didn't fly with other members of council, including Mayor Fred Eisenberger, a fervent supporter of the now-moribund LRT project.

"So here's where we start to go down the slippery slope," he said, expressing concern about "slicing and dicing a billion dollars."

That is "exactly what the province wants us to do," added Eisenberger, who is holding out hope an LRT could still emerge out of the ashes.

Likewise, Coun. Maureen Wilson, also an LRT supporter, argued Ferguson's proposal was wrong-headed. "I would submit that that's a form of downloading."

LRT fans have disputed Mulroney's $5.5-billion estimate for the cost of the McMaster-to-Eastgate Square line. The long-held capital cost was $1 billion.

The municipality's sole representative on the task force is city manager Janette Smith, who provided an update to council during Wednesday's general issues committee meeting.

Smith confirmed the ministry has stated in writing it won't subtract from that $1 billion the roughly $180 million Metrolinx spent on the LRT project or the province's share of a hoped-for $510 million in federal and municipal transit infrastructure cash over 10 years.

She can provide council with meeting updates, but only in camera, said Smith, who is bound by a confidentiality agreement. Meeting agendas will be shared after the fact.

"That's an interesting transparent process," Coun. Brad Clark joked.

Ferguson's 403 ramp motion didn't receive enough support Wednesday.

But councillors backed Clark's call to ask the ministry not to include provincial responsibilities for highway interchanges among potential projects eligible for the $1 billion. The motion also specified that electric vehicle charging stations and "greening" the transit fleet should be considered.
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Here's an idea - use the $1B to fund the capital cost of the LRT as originally planned, and the City would own it and take on responsibility for operation and maintenance. That would get the province off the hook for their $5.5B (or whatever it actually is) and the City would be able to fund it out of the revenues. The revenue sharing model was going to be a major sticking point with Council when the operating agreement was finalized, this way the City does not lose revenues from its most profitable route and unionized HSR workers would have jurisdiction in all its operations. If the cost is actually more than $1B, eliminate the new 403 bridge or the tunnel under the CP belt line.
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CBC Hamilton posted an article today about Indwell creating 3D models of mixed-use affordable housing scattered across the LRT route. Love the density around each LRT stop.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2020, 1:24 AM
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Hamilton transportation task force has a new deadline of March 16
The task force is advising the province on how to spend $1B originally earmarked for LRT

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...orce-1.5474592

The task force deciding how to spend $1 billion in transportation money for Hamilton has two extra weeks to make its decision.

The group, which meets behind closed doors, had until the end of the week to decide how the Ministry of Transportation should spend $1 billion originally earmarked to build a light rail transit (LRT) system in Hamilton.

In a letter Monday, chair Tony Valeri said the group needs more time.

"Given the significance of this responsibility, there is consensus among all members that additional work is required before finalizing the preliminary list of transit and transportation projects," he said in a letter to Transportation Minister Caroline Mulroney.

Mulroney agreed, and March 16 is the new deadline.

"People in Hamilton deserve transportation investments that are realistic and affordable," Mulroney said in a letter. "I appreciate the work that the task force is doing for the City of Hamilton."

The task force could choose road projects, transit projects or even LRT.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger, a staunch supporter of LRT, has said the task force isn't necessary when Hamilton has a democratically elected council.
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Hamilton's post-LRT task force made its $1B recommendation Monday
It's not clear when the public will know what the task force is recommending

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...orce-1.5499350

Hamilton's transportation task force recommended Monday how the province should spend $1 billion in former light-rail transit (LRT) dollars, although it's not clear when the public will know what those recommendations are.

The task force of five provincial appointees submitted a report to Transportation Minister Caroline Mulroney on Monday afternoon regarding if the money should be spent on LRT, rapid transit, or a combination of other transportation projects.

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Mulroney will review the recommendations now, Valeri said, and likely meet with the task force in April, depending on how busy the province is with COVID-19 matters then.

Provincial officials will "undertake further due diligence such as identifying any commercially sensitive information," the province said in an email Monday. "This will take place prior to any release of key outputs of the task force."
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More higher order transit omens...

Ford’s $11B Ontario Line likely won’t be completed by 2027, source says
(Toronto Star, Ben Spurr, June 2 2020)

The provincial government is forging ahead with the Ontario Line amidst the COVID-19 pandemic, but the procurement of Premier Doug Ford’s signature transit project will be more complicated than previously thought, and its completion likely delayed.

The Star has learned that on Tuesday the provincial government plans to announce the first two public-private partnership requests for qualifications (RFQs) for the Ontario Line. The 15.5-kilometre, $11-billion rail project would connect Exhibition Place to the Ontario Science Centre via downtown and forms the centrepiece of Ford’s $28.5-billion transit plans.

In a draft press release obtained by the Star, Transportation Minister Caroline Mulroney says the RFQs signal the province is “one step closer to realizing our transit vision and helping to generate economic activity and create tens of thousands of jobs as the province recovers from COVID-19.”

“Under the leadership of Premier Ford, our government is taking historic steps to expand subway service and reduce traffic congestion across the GTA,” Mulroney is quoted as saying.

The Ministry of Transportation release makes no mention of the project’s previously announced target completion date of 2027, which from the outset experts had described as unrealistic.

A senior government source with knowledge of the project said although the province is doing everything it can to advance the Ontario Line, including performing necessary geotechnical and utility survey work this spring, market conditions coupled with the COVID-19 crisis may push the project back.

“The target date for the Ontario Line has always been reflective of what market participation was bidding back to the province,” the source said.…

The complex, multi-phase approach is a departure from the one previously discussed by Metrolinx. The agency’s initial business case for the project contemplated a P3 bid to design, build, finance, and maintain the line, but made no mention of multiple contracts.

The senior government source said the province decided to break up the contract to make it attractive enough to the private sector to ensure a competitive bid that would provide good value to taxpayers.

In the past year, potential bidders from some sectors had expressed concerns about having to team up with vehicle providers to vie for projects, as well as the significant the financial risk government was asking them to take on for large transit builds.

The COVID-19 pandemic has also dealt a financial blow to major construction industry players based in Europe, making it more difficult for the province to assemble a competitive bid.


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More higher order transit omens...
Yep. There's a new order now.
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Might as well set the completion date at 2112...
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Might as well set the completion date at 2112...
2112 - that's when the priests will assume control of all planets of the Solar Federation.
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One year since Kitchener started its LRT.

https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/video?c...40&jwsource=em
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One year since Kitchener started its LRT.

https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/video?c...40&jwsource=em
Clear evidence it was a huge mIsTaKe!
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Catherine McKenna says LRT is the only 'shovel ready' transit project in Hamilton

'I think, more than ever, we recognize that we need to be getting projects that are ready to go,' McKenna said

Bobby Hristova · CBC News · Posted: Jul 28, 2020

Infrastructure Minister Catherine McKenna said public transit investments will be key to getting cities out of the COVID-19 economic slump and in Hamilton, the only "shovel ready" transit proposal for that is LRT.

"I think it's the only project that is shovel ready and I know there's a lot of local support I've heard about and we're always looking to fund good public transit projects," she told CBC News at an appearance in Hamilton Monday.

"It's really up to the local community to say what they need. I know there was an election and LRT was an issue and there was support from a lot of different groups in Hamilton. We're funding public transit across the country right now and I think, more than ever, we recognize that we need to be getting projects that are ready to go to create jobs ... and get cars off the road."

The federal government's willingness to contribute to the $1 billion project has been a consistent glimmer of hope for LRT advocates.

McKenna said everyone is still waiting for an answer, but added that infrastructure and public transit will be important to escaping the COVID-19 economic slump. She announced $1B for Ontario's public transit last week, which will be matched by Ontario throughout various projects.

Premier Doug Ford announced $4 billion in funding from the province and federal government Monday that's meant to support Ontario municipalities and transit systems in the wake of COVID-19. Up to $2 billion will also be allocated to public transit, also shared equally between the province and federal government, which have seen dramatically fewer riders.

LRT has been in discussion for years and has sowed division among city councillors. A list of groups to design, build, finance, operate and maintain the system were due to submit bids this spring.

When the province scrapped the project in December, Metrolinx had already spent $186 million on planning and developing the line, including the purchase of 60 properties.

Then, a Hamilton transportation task force was to decide how to spend $1 billion of provincial money initially allocated for LRT. The task force came back with several recommendations, with the top ones being LRT and bus rapid transit (BRT).

"For this project, we're still waiting and I know the city is waiting for a decision from the province, but I've certainly heard from a lot of proponents, a lot of people in Hamilton who support LRT and I think any good project that has support, we will look at opportunities," McKenna said.

"It's a huge opportunity, I think, for Hamilton ... it might be good to move forward on a project."

With files from Samantha Craggs and CBC News

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...lton-1.5664592
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Bus or LRT? Ontario will soon reveal the results of its transit study in Hamilton

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https://www.thespec.com/news/hamilto...-hamilton.html

It’s not yet clear how much say Hamilton council will have in choosing a new provincially funded rapid transit project.

Hamilton’s back-to-the-future LRT debate will rev up again this fall after the province completes yet another study comparing light rail to rapid bus transit.

The latest study to measure rail-versus-bus benefits was commissioned after the Progressive Conservative government cancelled Hamilton’s LRT project in December over budget concerns — despite having already spent $180 million, purchased 60 properties and forced dozens of resident to relocate.

Facing backlash, the province formed a task force to study how to spend the $1-billion project budget — and that five-person body recommended either light rail or bus rapid transit on the King-Main corridor. IBI Group is heading an ongoing “technical review” of those recommendations for the province.

The review findings should be ready this fall, said Flamborough-Glanbrook MPP Donna Skelly, who added the government’s original hopes to go public with results in September were slowed by the COVID-19 pandemic. “It’s not an intentional delay,” she said.

Skelly described the review as a “cost-benefit” evaluation of light rail and bus rapid transit, which typically involves express buses running in separated lanes with platform stops.

Don’t worry if the study sounds familiar.

Provincial transit agency Metrolinx did a benefits case analysis of the two options that helped convince Hamilton to pursue its original light rail transit project, which was funded in 2015 by the previous Liberal government.

An internal Metrolinx update in 2015 — only made public in a critical auditor-general’s report — made a stronger case for BRT just months ahead of the original $1-billion funding announcement.

It’s not yet clear how much say Hamilton council will have in choosing a new provincially funded rapid transit project. But Skelly said local residents “will have to be given the opportunity to weigh in” on any project that could contribute to tax hike.

She repeated the government’s contention that just to operate the LRT would cost the city $1 billion — an estimate questioned by critics who have suggested the province fudged the numbers for the entire project. In cancelling the project, the Tory government cited an overall cost prediction of $5.5 billion.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger said he is “anxiously awaiting” news about the technical review. But he and other LRT supporters say revisiting bus rapid transit on the Main-King corridor would be a step backwards.

Eisenberger argued the ridership, economic and development benefits of fixed rail transit have been “repeatedly well-demonstrated” over time. “The only thing that has changed is that COVID has happened,” he said. “And now there is an even higher need for economic stimulus and shovel-ready projects.”

Chamber of Commerce head Keanin Loomis pointed to comments from federal Infrastructure Minister Catherine McKenna that LRT is Hamilton’s only “shovel-ready” transit project ahead of planned pandemic stimulus spending.

He said reconsidering BRT risks years of delay to do new or updated studies. “We’ve got LRT teed up and ready to go right now,” he said. “I think throwing an either-or scenario back at council would be a huge setback.”

Retired Hamilton transportation manager Ted Gill argued the original Metrolinx comparison study between bus rapid transit and light rail was not “impartial” and contained “pretty significant errors.”

A later, less-publicized update report suggested a better benefits-to-cost ratio for bus rapid transit. The update still noted ridership, climate and long-term development advantages for fixed rail.

Coun. Brad Clark, who previously ran for mayor on a pro-BRT platform, said he feels past studies were “skewed in favour” of LRT. “And I don’t believe for a minute there is federal money ready and waiting for (a resurrected) LRT,” he said.

Gill suggested a “fulsome, fair” transit comparison is overdue — and wouldn’t necessarily derail a timely building project.

He argued BRT would travel the same route, require the same right-of-way and similar station stops as the planned LRT, so a “fast-tracked” project assessment might be possible.



What is it?

True “bus rapid transit” is usually defined as express bus service in dedicated, physically separated lanes. Stops can be similar to LRT platforms or stations. Metrolinx sometimes refers to “BRT-lite,” a mix of dedicated lanes and buses moving in regular traffic.

What would it cost?

In the past, building a Main-King corridor BRT was pegged at $265 million. Operating (ie. staffing) costs are generally assumed to be higher for BRT, because a light rail car carries more people than a bus.

Where would it go?

The city is currently focused on a rapid transit line for the B-Line corridor — Hamilton’s busiest — running from McMaster University to Eastgate Square.

What are the pros and cons?

Affordability and flexibility are often cited by BRT fans. Light rail transit supporters point to higher ridership and development opportunities linked to fixed rail. LRT is championed as a clear climate winner, too — but electric buses could narrow the gap for BRT.

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I fear these results will be as fraudulent as the numbers used to murder the project in the first place
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I continue to believe this is one gigantic ploy to pull money out of the Feds to pay for it.
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