Homicide stats in Canadian Cities - Page 165

vid · #**3281** Posted **Sep 24, 2017, 3:37 AM**

Thunder Bay Police pulled another body from the McIntyre River today. We'll find out next week if it was homicide or not.

kwoldtimer · #**3282** Posted **Sep 24, 2017, 12:29 PM**

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Thunder Bay Police pulled another body from the McIntyre River today. We'll find out next week if it was homicide or not.

Has a pattern emerged in these deaths - homicide, suicide, or accidental?

vid · #**3283** Posted **Sep 24, 2017, 2:24 PM**

Public drinking near waterways. They get drunk, they get into fights, people end up in the rivers. Were they pushed in? Did they fall in? The fact that that question cannot be definitively answered is why we can't say if they're accidental, homicide, or suicide. That's partly why there is a push to have cameras installed along the river here. A lot of them are blackout drunk at the time and aren't any help during trials either.

JuelzJones · #**3284** Posted **Sep 26, 2017, 12:28 AM**

Toronto could possibly end under 50 homicides this year. 42 at the moment

vid · #**3285** Posted **Sep 26, 2017, 12:48 AM**

The body found on Saturday has been sent to Toronto for post mortem to determine cause of death. Police continue to seek possible witnesses who might have seen what happened. The deceased is an adult native man whose identity is being held at the request of family.

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...-mortem-725609

In the trail regarding the death of Barbara Kentner (the woman who had a trailer hitch thrown at her last winter), the crown and police have requested redacted portions of her pathology report. The accused, an 18 year old male, and those who side with him, argue that because the victim was alcoholic and suffered from liver damage, he can't be held criminally responsible for her death.

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...y-crown-725478

kwoldtimer · #**3286** Posted **Sep 26, 2017, 2:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by vid

The body found on Saturday has been sent to Toronto for post mortem to determine cause of death. Police continue to seek possible witnesses who might have seen what happened. The deceased is an adult native man whose identity is being held at the request of family.

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...-mortem-725609

In the trail regarding the death of Barbara Kentner (the woman who had a trailer hitch thrown at her last winter), the crown and police have requested redacted portions of her pathology report. The accused, an 18 year old male, and those who side with him, argue that because the victim was alcoholic and suffered from liver damage, he can't be held criminally responsible for her death.

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...y-crown-725478

Seems rather a "Hail Mary" defence.

vid · #**3287** Posted **Sep 26, 2017, 4:06 AM**

Yeah it's bullshit. They're basically making the argument that if someone is suffering from physical complications related to drug or alcohol addiction, it's ok to kill them. My uncle was in a similar situation, being an alcoholic and drug user who was killed and for the most part the community seemed to think it was OK because of one aspect of who he was. We're seeing this again with Barbara Kentner. Charges still haven't been upgraded after her death, but this could result in that depending on what they find out.

In slightly related news:

Thunder Bay City Council voted against asking Senator Beyak to resign. It was a tie vote, essentially broken by the fact that our mayor, on leave since June to deal with extortion charges (non-political in nature) has suddenly decided to return to his position.

The vote was largely non-partisan. All NDP members and one Conservative voted in favour of the motion calling for her to resign, while all remaining Conservatives and half of the Liberals voted against the motion.

There are 13 members on our council and the person who made the motion couldn't vote on it as she was out of town on a business trip, but had she been able to, the result would have been 7 to 6 in favour instead of 6 to 6 tie, so it's not like it was even something a majority of council wasn't behind. Most of our council votes in unison, most votes are something like 9 to 3 or 8 to 4. Tie votes like this are pretty uncommon. They voted unanimously to support recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission and the Seven Youth Inquest yet they do this, which rather undermines the recommendations set forth in both.

As far as I know, we're the first city (or at least the largest one so far) to not successfully pass a motion asking for her resignation. She has a lot of fans here.

A tipi has been erected across the street from our courthouse, I'm not sure why but I figure it's going to be some kind of protest.

vid · #**3288** Posted **Sep 28, 2017, 1:23 AM**

Yet another body has been pulled out of the McIntyre River. Driving home tonight, through one of the busiest intersections in the middle of the city, police had stopped traffic to allow a police and firetruck escorted ambulance go to the hospital. Further south at the river itself, multiple police, firetrucks and ambulances were on-scene.

Hopefully whoever they had in the ambulance survives.

kwoldtimer · #**3289** Posted **Sep 28, 2017, 2:35 PM**

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Yet another body has been pulled out of the McIntyre River. Driving home tonight, through one of the busiest intersections in the middle of the city, police had stopped traffic to allow a police and firetruck escorted ambulance go to the hospital. Further south at the river itself, multiple police, firetrucks and ambulances were on-scene.

Hopefully whoever they had in the ambulance survives.

The City allows this to continue because it's out of sight compared to other locations?

vid · #**3290** Posted **Sep 29, 2017, 2:00 AM**

That stretch of the McIntyre River (the Neebing River enters it on the bottom right) is where most of the river deaths have occurred.

To the north if the city's largest (essentially only, at this point) shopping mall. To the south, the city's only movie cinema and fair grounds (the white thing was a golf dome, it's since collapsed). Top right, the city's largest big box clusterfuck, featuring Canadian Tire, Home Depot, and the LCBO and Beer Store. The stripmall on the left has a 24/7 Shoppers Drug Mart.

A lot of homeless people and troubled youth get alcohol at the Beer Store or LCBO, and then drink it along the river here, that's why so many have died there.

And it's not out of sight. There are literally street lights that shine onto the river.

There are bushes along it and they usually hang out in there so they're somewhat secluded, but it's not like no one is around.

There is a group led by native women that walks along the river at night most days of the week, making sure people are safe. Police have rescued over 50 people from the river, this one was just a bit unusual because of the larger scale of the response. They're clearly on edge right now, since someone died just a hundred meters away from this spot days ago.

vid · #**3291** Posted **Oct 1, 2017, 10:04 PM**

Police rescued another person from the water today.

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-ne...m-river-730626

240glt · #**3292** Posted **Oct 4, 2017, 12:07 AM**

Edmonton now at 41, a 42 year old man who has been missing since May was found buried six feet under a garage at a residential property just north of downtown. The house is owned by a notorious landlord who is currently facing a slew of drug, weapons and stolen property charges and has been accused of failing to properly maintain marginal rental properties in the central areas of the city

blueandgoldguy · #**3293** Posted **Oct 4, 2017, 10:24 PM**

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Edmonton now at 41, a 42 year old man who has been missing since May was found buried six feet under a garage at a residential property just north of downtown. The house is owned by a notorious landlord who is currently facing a slew of drug, weapons and stolen property charges and has been accused of failing to properly maintain marginal rental properties in the central areas of the city

So I wonder if the landlord is a suspect?

Calgarian · #**3294** Posted **Oct 4, 2017, 10:51 PM**

Edmonton is likely going to set the record for most homicides in a year for that city.

SignalHillHiker · #**3295** Posted **Nov 1, 2017, 1:06 PM**

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At 10 a.m. this morning the police will announce Cortney Lake's disappearance is now a homicide investigation - as well as more key information.

This has now resolved itself. The ex-boyfriend who allegedly did it presumably killed himself.

Philip Smith, Former Boyfriend Of Cortney Lake, Found Dead

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The former boyfriend of Cortney Lake, a missing woman who police believe was murdered, has been found dead.

VOCM News has learned through numerous unnamed sources that a search for Philip Smith was conducted overnight and his body was located in an area near Bellevue Beach early this morning.

Police will only confirm a sudden death has occurred. RCMP are still on scene conducting an investigation.

23-year-old Cortney Lake was reported missing on June 7th after she was last seen getting into a pickup in Mount Pearl.

Police say she was murdered.

A pickup matching the description of the one Cortney was last seen getting into was removed from the driveway of a residence identified as that of Philip Smith two weeks after she was reported missing. He later admitted he picked Cortney up the day she was last seen.

25-year-old Smith had never been named by police as a suspect in the Lake case, but he did serve time this summer for breaching court orders asking him to stay away from Lake and from her mother.

http://vocm.com/news/philip-smith-fo...ke-found-dead/