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Today we have these photos from the scene from Trever Holland, tenant president at the neighboring Two Bridges Tower. A Monday memo from Lend Lease, the construction manager, noted that interior demolition and “hand demolition of the south and east exterior masonary walls are almost complete.” The advisory continued, “mechanical demolition will begin this week.” As you can see from these photos, heavy machinery is now being used on what remains of the building.









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This morning, there are new details available about Extell Development’s huge residential and commercial project planned on the former Cherry Street Pathmark site. In preparation for a public briefing Wednesday, June 18, the prolific developer has filed documents with Community Board 3 for a 13-story affordable housing tower that will be part of the complex.
We’re still waiting for information about the main building, a 68-story market-rate high rise.

The documents indicate there will actually be three parts to the project:

•A “mixed-use podium base” consisting of apartments, retail and parking. It is being designed by Adamson Associates, a Canadian firm that has collaborated on many high profile New York City buildings, including the World Trade Center towers.

•The market rate luxury tower, also designed by Adamson.

•A 205-unit low income housing rental tower by Dattner Architects.


Extell plans to participate in the city’s inclusionary housing program, which allows developers to increase the floor area of their projects in exchange for building affordable housing. The company will also access tax exempt bonds and tax credits available to affordable housing developers, and seek a 20-year tax abatement.

There will be 205 apartments, including 49 studios, 51 1-bedroom units and 105 2-bedroom units. The apartments will be available to families earning 60% or below the area median income. The filing listed prices for studios at $833; 1-bedrooms at $895; and 2-bedrooms at $1082.

You can see the complete documents below. Extell will brief Community Board 3′s land use committee June 18 at 6:30 p.m. at the Rutgers Community Center, 200 Madison St.







http://www.thelodownny.com/leslog/20...-pathmark.html

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A short time ago, we stopped by the site of the former Pathmark store on Cherry Street to see what remains. The answer? Not much. In the months ahead, Extell Development will be building a 68-story residential tower here.


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That affordable tower is not looking so good. Please tell me that podium will not have that much blank wall.
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Gary Barnett and Extell Reveal What We Should Expect from their Pathmark Site Development





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Both tempers and temperatures dominated last night during Extell’s town hall at the Land Use subcommittee of Community Board 3. El Jefe Gary Barnett himself – with a gaggle of suits in tow – attended to reveal plans and field questions regarding his twin tower project on the former site of Pathmark. To their credit, the group remained well past 9pm.

For the moment, Extell is laser-focused on the affordable housing component of its multi-million-dollar development, and this was the crux of their presentation. Plans include a separate 13-story building at 229 Cherry Street specifically for low-income tenants, with designer Datter Architects on board. The residential composition of this structure is 205 total units (50% earmarked for residents) broken down as follows: (1) 49 studios, (2) 50 1BR’s, (3) 105 2BR’s, and (4) 1 spot for the super. The base of both buildings will incorporate both a supermarket and drug store.

(Plans are not yet finalized for the larger 68-story dwelling)

The deck was brief and followed by an intense interrogation, both by the panel and the community at large. The main theme – separate but equal is not equal. A host of committee members and neighborhood residents voiced their concerns about being “segregated” from a 68-story blight with market-rate units. How being separated would adversely affect services in this building. Questions abounded as to why Extell couldn’t incorporate the affordable housing into the luxury tower.

We were told that the development is privately funded and would eventually transfer to a new owner (or, at the very least, new management). As for the housing component, it was done this way to maximize the developer benefits of tax breaks through 421A abatement program. Mixing wasn’t possible, from their perspective, because the costs and logistics of doing so would be prohibitive to both design and budget; the money would allegedly be astronomical and the height of the 68-story building would need an additional 14 stories. (Pity the poor developer)

As for the “vibrant retail presence” they hope to achieve, Barnett and company took to heart the concerns of inputting a cheap grocery. He assured the room that he’d push for that outcome, and mentioned that Pathmark actually has the right of first refusal on the bi-level, 25,000 square-foot space. He even played the crowd for viable suggestions (Shop Rite won out).

Barnett stooped further with the “I’m one of you” shtick, revealing that he was actually born right near the project site. He reiterated that he’s “excited to come back to my old neighborhood … where I played Edgies,” and that it’s “kind of fun.” But that “enhancing” the area was of paramount importance here. Nevertheless, he was consistently humbled by the locals during the Q&A, called out for being too insensitive, etc. And, again to his credit, he seemed apologetic and patient as the night wore on (but he’s still making a killing by invading the neighborhood).

Other concerns included the eventual flood of humanity and how the transportation and service infrastructure here is pretty much non-existent. There is the M15 stop on Pike Street and the F stop at East Broadway. That’s pretty much it. There aren’t many hospitals or schools, either. Locals hoped that Extell could take all this into consideration while on the path of planning.

Many are also worried about security at the now-destroyed plot. Lighting is low and there aren’t many security guards around. And to that end, Barnett intimated that one of the watchmen was actually robbed recently.

It’s also worth mentioning that somewhere in the middle of all this, one outspoken resident nearly filibustered the evening with his attack of Community Board 3 of being racially insensitive while simultaneously commending Extell for its efforts.

Excavation on 229 Cherry Street should begin within the next three months. Extell hopes to have both buildings constructed in three-and-a-half years.





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Boo f--king hoo. People are now upset that they don't get their affordable housing units inside the tower but instead, adjacent to it? Let me guess, they want the gym, pool and spa free of charge too, right?

What a bunch of entitled cry babies.
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Boo f--king hoo. People are now upset that they don't get their affordable housing units inside the tower but instead, adjacent to it? Let me guess, they want the gym, pool and spa free of charge too, right?

What a bunch of entitled cry babies.
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Boo f--king hoo. People are now upset that they don't get their affordable housing units inside the tower but instead, adjacent to it? Let me guess, they want the gym, pool and spa free of charge too, right?

What a bunch of entitled cry babies.
People always want more than they are getting, no matter what. If the units were integrated within the larger tower, there would be complaints about something else. They would find something else to nitpick about because this tower is coming, and they feel insulted somehow.



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Breaking: Water Main Rupture Floods Extell’s LES Development Site


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It’s a big mess at the former Pathmark site on South Street, where Extell Development is preparing to build a 68-story luxury tower. Earlier today, a water main burst, flooding the parcel, which is also bordered by Pike Street and Cherry Street.

No word yet on what caused the rupture. Officials with the city’s Department of Environmental Protection are on the scene. The city plans to shut down water service in the area tonight at midnight to make repairs.
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I agree that the affordable housing units should be integrated throughout the entire development. It appears we have yet to learn our lessons when concentrating /segregating affordable units.
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The problem is that people pay attention the percentage of units that are affordable rather than the percentage of profits that are foregone by the developer for the purpose of providing affordable housing.

I remember about a month ago when a community board in Hell's Kitchen wrote a letter regarding Silverstein's 514 11th twins, stating that the affordable housing "must be evenly distributed in location and type throughout the building and contain an equal level of apartment finish and equal and affordable access to all building amenities."

It's this kind of bullshit that guts any semblance of legitimacy to this whole economic "segregation" complaint. The primary arguments for affordable housing in premier neighborhoods are (i) that preexisting communities deserve not to be stamped out by rising prices and (ii) that continued economic diversity is good for the city in myriad cultural ways. Assuming these arguments to be without flaws for a moment (a fairly large assumption), the primary goal should be to maximize the number of affordable units in the area in order to maximize the population of underprivileged New Yorkers that can live there.

Do these people not understand that one penthouse unit with top-quality finishes is worth five units on the bottom floor? There's only so much money you can squeeze from a developer before the project becomes infeasible. Is it better to spend that money on a few beautiful units spread throughout the building so that a handful of random people can win the 'affordable housing lottery' and live in a dream house for pennies on the dollar, or to provide as much adequate-quality housing as possible to help stem the tide of gentrification and preserve neighborhood charm?

I'd be fine with a regulatory minimum standard of quality for all affordable housing to make sure that basic appliances work well, that people have access to windows, clean air and things like (although this doesn't seem to be much of a problem in any new developments anyway), but since when is it a basic human right to have marble countertops, Viking appliances and skyline views?
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I remember about a month ago when a community board in Hell's Kitchen wrote a letter regarding Silverstein's 514 11th twins, stating that the affordable housing "must be evenly distributed in location and type throughout the building and contain an equal level of apartment finish and equal and affordable access to all building amenities."

I'd be fine with a regulatory minimum standard of quality for all affordable housing to make sure that basic appliances work well, that people have access to windows, clean air and things like (although this doesn't seem to be much of a problem in any new developments anyway), but since when is it a basic human right to have marble countertops, Viking appliances and skyline views?
That's it in a nutshell. The whole concept of building affordable housing is to create more affordable housing. Why on earth should residents who would be paying much more get the same as residents who are paying relatively nothing? You want the extra amenities, you pay the extra money. It's that simple, or at least it should be.
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That's it in a nutshell. The whole concept of building affordable housing is to create more affordable housing. Why on earth should residents who would be paying much more get the same as residents who are paying relatively nothing? You want the extra amenities, you pay the extra money. It's that simple, or at least it should be.
What I don't understand is how this "affordable" term with "luxury" can mix together?

Simply put, affordable housing lowers the total property value before it is even built.

I further agree 100% with NYguy on that when you pay more, you should get more than those who pay less!

You are not privileged to the same amenities if you don't pay the same rate.

For this to feasibly work, the affordable sections should be on the lower floors, not spread out evenly.
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For this to feasibly work, the affordable sections should be on the lower floors, not spread out evenly.
Thats what I would be thinking too. Although developers hate adding affordable housing but have to in order to get their projects through. Well, I guess we could say that its humanitarian work on their part.

But I think we can all come to the conclusion that Manhattan isn't for all. To be fair, you have to make a certain amount to live their. Its the way it has evolved in the last 20 years. Theres more to NYC, so I say to those who can't afford it, move to a less expensive part of the city or get your game up and get a better job or get a rent buddy.
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Thats what I would be thinking too. Although developers hate adding affordable housing but have to in order to get their projects through. Well, I guess we could say that its humanitarian work on their part..
They don't have to add affordable housing but they can if they want 20% added space. I forget if its FAR or square feet total but it seems like a decent trade.

OT but Bdb having to force projects to include affordable housing is scary to say the least. And the 50/30/20 model is even more frightening.
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They don't have to add affordable housing but they can if they want 20% added space. I forget if its FAR or square feet total but it seems like a decent trade.

OT but Bdb having to force projects to include affordable housing is scary to say the least. And the 50/30/20 model is even more frightening.
Keep in mind that the affordable housing doesn't have to be on site. Sometimes its blocks away. Also, I have no problem with requiring affordable housing for the right to build larger than legally allowed. No free passes for developers either. You want more, you give more. They'll get the privilege to build in a sizzling market, in the world's greatest city.
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