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JDS and SHoP always impress. I kinda see a little reminder of One57 in the facade. Only green. In a way, its cool to see a green skyscraper. We really do not have many off memory.
The big one that comes to mind for me is the McGraw-Hill building, and the reclad of the former Verizon building on Bryant Park.
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The point is, ladies and gentleman, that green -- for lack of a better word -- is good.

Green is right.

Green works.

Green clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

Green, in all of its forms -- green life, green money, green love, knowledge -- has marked the upward surge of mankind.

And green -- you mark my words -- will not only save the Lower East Side, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the City of New York.
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NEW YORK | 247 Cherry Street | 900 FT | 77 FLOORS


So.... people, back on topic: whats actually important in this thread!!!

JDS Unveils Plans For a Gigantic 77-Story Lower East Side Tower








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Yes, and thank you.

I find it hilarious how JDS always seems to be where Extell is, like a form of nemesis.
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http://www.habitatmag.com/Publicatio...al-Twin-Towers

Unidentical Twin Towers for the New Millennium


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A second tall tower is set to rise at the foot of the Manhattan Bridge.

It won’t be identical to its neighbor, but a new 77-story mixed-use tower is set to rise at the foot of the Manhattan Bridge, shoulder-to-shoulder with an 80-story luxury condo tower. Think of them as the Unidentical Twin Towers for the new millennium.

JDS Development Group and SHoP Architects have announced plans for the new tower at 247 Cherry Street, next door to Extell’s One Manhattan Square, The Lo-Down reports. JDS is also developing Brooklyn’s first supertall, the 1,066-foot tall, brass-clad needle set to rise above the iconic Dime Savings Bank.
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You knew the townsfolk would be out against this in force. Let's just jump right to it...



http://www.libreto.org/2015/08/09/on...lm-the-f-down/



https://www.boweryboogie.com/2016/04...locals-pissed/

This 77-Story Residential Tower ups the Ante on the LES Waterfront; Locals Are Pissed





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Extell is no longer the only game down on the Lower East Side waterfront. And, as usual, it’s at the expense of a low-income community.

Last night was the rollout, and it certainly stirred up the hornet’s nest.

...As for the presentation last night, the atmosphere was contentious. Newly minted Assemblywoman Alice Cancel and reps from local electeds all bore witness. Simply put, there is no trust between TBNC and tenants in their buildings. After a brief presentation by the developers, Sewell fielded questions from a battle-hardened crew sick of constant construction at their doorstep. Tenants didn’t understand how this 77-story monstrosity could benefit the overall community, as its mere presence is a destructive force. No one in the room wanted this area to become “another Battery Park,” in reference to the antiseptic makeover crosstown.

Most vocal was 82 Rutgers tenant association leader Trever Holland who immediately went for the jugular. He accused management of not hosting a tenant meeting in years and that transparency is nonexistent. Also that there is little in the plans to benefit the Two Bridges Tower – despite sale of their air rights – other than shaky promises that “there will be no impact whatsoever” to future tenancy in the affordable building. He further asserted that the seniors next door probably have no clue what’s happening, “and won’t know until [the building] is up.” Holland’s most pointed jab, however, was the insinuation that there is something fishy happening here a la Rivington House. (The developers will pay for any infrastructural updates. All profits go toward TBNC and SHF.)

In the end, it seems as though a significant number of residents feel sold out by the $51 million deal, flooding the area with market raters and further changing the neighborhood dynamic. That much was made clear. To that end, any time Papa opened his mouth, residents shouted him down for being a liar and accused him of taking kickbacks from the deal.


https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...harm-community

Waterfront Residents Fear New Tower in Dense Area Will Harm Community

By Allegra Hobbs
April 28, 2016

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Waterfront residents are pushing back against a developer’s plan to erect a 77-story apartment building next door to an already rising 80-story tower, expressing fears that more construction will worsen noise, quality-of-life and density issues.

A flood of protests awaited the JDS Development Group and ShoP Architects on Wednesday when they met with tenants of the Two Bridges Towers at 82 Rutgers Slip to discuss the proposed mixed-income tower slated for 247 Cherry St., located directly next to Extell’s controversial One Manhattan Square. Residents at the meeting said they fear the impact a saturation of construction and development will have on their community.

“What makes you different from Extell? You are still destroying the community,” said one resident after a presentation on the development plans. “This is not Battery Park — please don’t bring this here.”

The president of Settlement Housing assured residents the addition of much-needed affordable housing and community benefits will make the development a boon to the neighborhood, despite fears the influx of units will overwhelm and irreparably alter the longtime community.

“There will be 450 units of market rate rentals — is that a change for this neighborhood that is primarily affordable? Yes, it absolutely is,” said Alexa Sewell. “Is it a make or break for a neighborhood with thousands and thousands of units of housing? No, it is not."

Still, tenants of 82 Rutgers insisted the silver lining will in no way compensate for the inconvenience of ongoing construction and the perceived ills that could come from so dramatically increasing density in a relatively small area. The looming tower will block their sunlight, many tenants said, and the neighborhood’s infrastructure is simply not built to accommodate such numbers.

Furthermore, the community benefits outlined neglect the needs of the existing tenants, who said they have been living with damages from the Extell construction as well as normal wear-and-tear and have had no luck securing necessary repairs.
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Design is not final, but a better render for us...



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“What makes you different from Extell? You are still destroying the community,” said one resident after a presentation on the development plans. “This is not Battery Park — please don’t bring this here.”
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“I think it’s kind of disingenuous to look at this as an affordable housing project even if it’s coming from an affordable housing developer,” he added. “You’re still a developer and if you do something 25 percent affordable, is that really what you do? If 75 percent is market rate housing?”
I'm all for affordable housing, but these people need to understand that developers can't spend 700 million or more for a tower, and eliminate most market rate units. Just doesn't work that way. 25% affordable housing is still generous considering the caliber that such a tower will present.

This will only add to the area. Its bad enough it looks like a ghetto with the NYCHA projects nearby.

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“What makes you different from Extell? You are still destroying the community,” said one resident after a presentation on the development plans. “This is not Battery Park — please don’t bring this here.”
Battery Park city has been a huge success last time I checked. Kinds are playing outside, its lively, and everyone is happy. We need more Battery Parks.

These people that live here have it made. Especially the ones with rent controlled apartments. They are the lucky ones.
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Those low income NIMBYS are just green with envy at the market rate apartment dwellers. Hatin'.

BTW, is this project as-of-right or will we need to go through the NIMBY shitshow...oh I mean...the dreaded public review?

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The thing is its owned by the council, so it may have a public review. They are leasing that site at the moment.

But the Two Bridges Council is in favor of such a tower so thats always a plus. In the end, this will rise.

Most sites are as of right, but with this one, I'm not a 100% certain.
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From what I have noticed is that Nimby pushback is more successful when the area is already really nice... like Chelsea or Soho or Upper East side. Don't recall to many "Keep our dump a dump" arguments working out too well. The writing is on the wall. If your a neighborhood in Manhattan and you don't want skyscrapers you better find a way to make your area very valuable without them. Manhattan is an island, and as the city grows there will be fewer and fewer places on the island for people to live who are not at least "well off". The great thing is the other boroughs are doing a lot to make their neighborhoods more livable.

The other side of that is the places that are nice when they push back there are typically have more power brokers as part of that.
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...The developers note that more big changes are coming to the East River waterfront. Large-scale projects are expected from L+M Development, on a a parcel at 265-275 Cherry St., just to the east of the new project site. The Starrett Corporation is also believed to be making plans for a new project on a site it owns in the area. Taken together, the new developments will likely create at least 3,000 new apartments in the Two Bridges neighborhood.

“This particular zone is not one of the more densely populated areas of the city right now,” argued Stern. “Interestingly, though, there is a pretty good transportation infrastructure, retail infrastructure in the general area to support it, so it’s actually a very appropriate place for density. I think that’s why you see the underlying zoning that’s there (which supports high density).”

Stern also noted that his firm has a lot of experience working with local communities to “mitigate the impacts” of construction. The developers will be working with Two Bridges and Settlement Housing to communicate early and often with the local community, he promised. For Victor Papa’s part, he said, “We’re going to go and talk to whoever wants to hear this presentation. We’re going to be transparent and open about it.”

So what’s next? After today’s meetings, Stern said the development team will be focused on winning approval from the Department of City Planning for a “minor modification” of the Two Bridges Large-Scale Development Plan.

JDS Development is hoping to access tax incentives for the affordable housing portion of the project. The State Legislature has so far failed to reinstate the 421a tax abatement program. “We’re confident that some version of it will come back in this development timeline,” said Stern. Construction is not expected to begin for at least two years.

Stern said he’s proud of what his firm, SHoP and the not-for profit groups have been able to achieve. “We see it as a model of responsible development moving forward,” he explained. “Take an under-utilized affordable housing asset and get some value out of it, create new affordable housing and create capital to preserve affordable housing and (generate) positive ripple effects wherever you’re building.”








Two Bridges Senior Apartments, 80 Rutgers Slip.



Extell site; view from Pike Street.



A quote from a couple of years ago on de Blasio and the NIMBYs...


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..."This isn't going to be a fight between the mayor and developers, it's going to be a fight between the mayor and the NIMBYs," one executive said, using the acronym for 'Not in My Backyard."

Whatever the aesthetics of the buildings turns out to be, one thing seems clear. For many New Yorkers, Mayor Bill de Blasio is becoming Mayor Build de Blasio.

"The new message out of City Hall is 'Build, baby, build,'" Bankoff said.
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Good lord, I thank my lucky stars every day for the existence of SHoP and their show-stopping, innovative designs...and for the almost inexplicable but prolific boom we are experiencing that is changing the city in ways not seen in nearly a century.

If this is what 21st-Century New York is going to look like, I am just so thrilled.
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Good lord, I thank my lucky stars every day for the existence of SHoP and their show-stopping, innovative designs...and for the almost inexplicable but prolific boom we are experiencing that is changing the city in ways not seen in nearly a century.

If this is what 21st-Century New York is going to look like, I am just so thrilled.

Yes, yes, and yes!
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http://www.theurbandeveloper.com/new...dable-housing/

How A New York Highrise Shows The Way For Affordable Housing

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As Australia grapples with a lack of affordable housing, a proposed development in New York illustrates an innovative way to alleviate the problem.

JDS Development Group has formed a partnership with two not-for-profit groups: Two Bridges Neighborhood Council (TBNC) and Settlement Housing Fund (SHF), to build a new 900 foot tall skyscraper at 247 Cherry Street in Manhattan’s Lower East Side.

The 77 storey, 500,000 square foot, mixed-income tower will have 600 units, 150 of which will be permanently affordable and distributed evenly throughout the building. The project has been developed as a collaboration between SHoP Architects and JDS.

The companies believe that partnerships like this can be used in other parts of the city to help build more affordable housing and aid in not-for-profit group goals.

.....According to preliminary plans, the building will have a mixture of studios, one-bedroom and two-bedrooms unit, with affordable apartments interspersed throughout the building.

JDS head Michael Stern says the approach could be used to increase the supply of affordable housing in New York, which like many Australian cities has sky high rents that are pricing anyone without a huge salary out of the market.

“We see it as a model of responsible development moving forward,” Stern said. “Take an under-utilized affordable housing asset and get some value out of it.”

The air rights model may not be strictly transferable to Australia because air rights are little used here, but with Not-For-Profits including churches owning billions of dollars in land nationwide, as well as the government, there is ample scope to trade development rights for a smattering of affordable homes in the final project.
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Just some extra info and NIMBY complaints:

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Son of L.E.S. supertall; Second huge high-rise planned at Two Bridges

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Lower East Side residents are pushing back against another enormous residential tower set to rise right next to Extell’s gigantic One Manhattan Square development on the East River waterfront, which they fear will destroy their quality of life and possibly even displace senior citizens.

The developers of a new 77-story building slated for 247 Cherry St. in the Two Bridges neighborhood received a hostile welcome from Two Bridges Towers tenants when they presented their plans for the mixed-income project last Wed., Apr. 27.

“You’re destroying the neighborhood. The landscape is going to change completely,” complained one resident. “How are you different from Extell? This is not Battery Park [City] — please don’t bring this here.”

The design and development team — JDS Development Group and ShoP Architects — are planning the project together with Settlement Housing Fund and Two Bridges Neighborhood Council, the two nonprofits that own Two Bridges Tower at 82 Rutgers Slip and the neighboring Two Bridges Senior Apartments next door at 80 Rutgers Slip.

The new 600-unit rental building, which will include roughly 150 permanently affordable units, will be built using $51 million worth of development rights, mostly purchased from the neighboring 80 Rutgers.

The lot for the building’s base currently houses a one-story addition to the senior apartments with a multipurpose community room that will eventually be replaced in the new development, according to the developers.

Next to the community room, another one-story building, which was home to a pharmacy and still has two retail storefronts, will be demolished later on in the project and replaced by a similar structure, possibly to house a replacement for the sorely missed Pathmark supermarket that closed on the block in 2012.

The slender glass-and-terra-cotta tower, which is set to house studios and one- and two-bedrooms, would also cantilever over the existing senior building — one of the main points of contention for local residents.

“How are you going to put this there and not displace senior residents?” asked Trever Holland, president of the Two Bridges Tenant Association.

Locals also say the planned development’s size is far too much to bear for their dense community of low-income residents. But the project’s masterminds insist that it will benefit the community — with a range of amenities, like public open space and a new and larger community center, as well as the affordable units slated for the tower.

“There will be 450 units of market-rate rentals — is that a change for this neighborhood that is primarily affordable? Yes, it absolutely is,” said Alexa Sewell, president of Settlement Housing Fund.

“[But] is it a make or break for a neighborhood with thousands and thousands of units of housing? No.”

“We’re creating considerable new affordable housing. It’s a net plus of over 150 units,” added Michael Stern, JDS founder and managing partner.

Unlike at the Extell development, which includes a separate building for below-market-rate tenants, the affordable units at 247 Cherry St. would be “fully integrated,” as in scattered throughout the building, the developers said.

Sewell added that the money from the air-rights sale would also go toward significant improvements at the Two Bridges Senior Apartments building, including flood barriers and a renovated lobby, as well as the new retail space.

Additionally, the new tower’s ground floor would boast a brand-new community center open to the residents. A rooftop garden and landscaped outdoor space are also planned.

But community advocates said that’s not enough — and demanded that similar upgrades should be made at Two Bridges Tower next door.

“We have to make sure we’re not just getting chairs and some landscaping,” Holland stressed...

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Damn, I was thinking a while ago how awesome a green SHoP building would look in Seattle. Low key wish this would be built there instead :p
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Damn, I was thinking a while ago how awesome a green SHoP building would look in Seattle. Low key wish this would be built there instead :p
One day it'll happen. Seattle is going through a massive boom, and you guys have beautiful towers like "The Mark" rising and a pretty nice addition to the 440' stock.

For all we know here in NY, you guys down there could get something that will blow every proposal out of the water. I wouldn't rule it out. We can get surprised every once in a while.

Now, in terms of this tower, its still something like 2 years before it starts construction, but its good to see large towers being planned in areas that somewhat fall in the 20-30 floor category. It kinda adds a new mini skyline in a way when the area fills up. Which is always nice to have different nodes. A city that just has one cluster can get a bit boring, but the grandeur can really be seen when they are all over the place. In that respect, NYC is starting to look like Shenzhen with a mix of Hong Kong. With its multiple skylines and skyscraper nodes popping up everywhere.
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Haha I am not from Seattle (nor have I ever even been there), just thought a green skyscraper would really work in the Emerald City. This is a real stunner and will look great in Manhattan of course too.
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this is almost beyond belief appropriate and awesome. talk about tight infill, this takes the cake.

Now we need someone to put up a tower at 210 South Street to complete the picture...


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