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Old Posted May 3, 2017, 3:05 PM
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Because I looked around and no one had done Hamilton:

Red is parking. Burgundy is a large just abandoned lot (I think... it might be a poorly maintained park?)
Green is proposals. Light green is areas that I think have proposals, but I'm not certain.
Purple is the regional bus station, so technically surface parking, but not in the normal sense.
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Old Posted May 3, 2017, 7:02 PM
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interesting thread, but I was wondering if all these maps are from the same elevation as that would make it easier to compare the cities.
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Old Posted May 3, 2017, 9:43 PM
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Calgary is a very god example of how a new and very wealthy city can still have a vibrant core devoid of parking lots and disjointed centres.

Contrary to popular beleif there is actually quite a bit of parking in downtown Calgary but it is underground beneath the city's huge office towers..........out of sight ut of mind. This has resulted in the towers also being pedestrian friendly with shops and resturants at street level making for a constant urban form and connected downtown. There are very few parking lots in downtown Calgary despite having a lot of parking spaces.

Calgary also made some other progressive policies over the years. It started to apply HEAVY city taxes on downtown parking making it unappealing but built a comphrehensive LRT system so there were viable alternatives. It also left one street intact with it's heritage building........the Stephen Avenue pedestrian mall which is the busiest and most successful in Canada. It also decided to have a very centralized business location so you don't get office towers spread all over the city making transit service to them unreliable and inconvinient.
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Old Posted May 3, 2017, 11:38 PM
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Calgary is a very god example of how a new and very wealthy city can still have a vibrant core devoid of parking lots and disjointed centres.

Contrary to popular beleif there is actually quite a bit of parking in downtown Calgary but it is underground beneath the city's huge office towers . . . .
I was going to say: The parking is almost certainly there but out of site under office towers and limited to executives working in the towers. The oligarchs DO NOT ride public transit and even their chauffeur-driven cars need someplace to park while they are doing whatever they do to stay rich.

In car-hating San Francisco, it's a sick joke that our elected overlords, who spend their time making it ever harder to drive a private vehicle in the city, demand and get free parking at City Hall. But the captains of (service) industry do as well.

Here you can see them digging Mr. Benioff's parking at the base the tower (to the left in this shot) named for his company (Salesforce.com). When completed, it will be paved over as a public plaza--you'll never guess it's there.


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Old Posted May 6, 2017, 4:13 AM
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Not if their employees prefer to live in the city and don't like long commutes. That what the tech industry is used to. It's young, often single workforce likes city life and likes to walk or bike to work. The companies increasingly are opening SF satellite offices of their Silicon Valley headquarters to accommodate these people (and make recruiting them easier). Google's employees don't need to be near Adobe's. They just need to be near where they live.
Which is why I said "otherwise they'd choose a cheaper place in the suburbs". I never said anything about Google needing to pay a premium for a downtown office location. I was just explaining why downtown office locations exist at all.
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Old Posted May 7, 2017, 7:18 PM
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This might not be a popular opinion, but it seems a pragmatic option would be more parking garages, with first-floor retail and 'pretty' facades. Build these, let the surface lots get developed or turned into parks. Have big garages on the edge of the downtown, next to transit. Have lower rates (encourage people to park near, but not in downtown, reducing uneeded car traffic of people just looking to park), which would allow for streets to be geared more towards people, mass transit, etc.

It is not realistic in many metros to think everyone will magically be riding in from the suburbs on trams, so mitigate the car traffic to keep cars out of the central downtown, and then free up the space for the good stuff.
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Old Posted May 7, 2017, 7:22 PM
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It isn't realistic to think changes will happen "magically" but that can be said of most things. That doesn't mean that changes can't happen with good planning and infrastructure investment. After all, it was planning and infrastructure investment choices that caused the current situation to begin with.
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