HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForumSkyscraper Posters
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > United States > Texas & Southcentral > Austin

Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #141  
Old Posted May 17, 2017, 12:08 PM
Novacek Novacek is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,002
Travis county wants their cut.

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/loca...ncToY2ydxzELJ/


I'm sure the northeast park soccer field sells lots of hotel rooms <sarcasm>


How about Austin raises rates 2% in the city limits, and TC raises its tax on the hotels in unincorporated travis county (since that's all they ever seem to spend money on).
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #142  
Old Posted May 17, 2017, 8:12 PM
brando brando is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 180
Quote:
Originally Posted by Novacek View Post
Travis county wants their cut.

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/loca...ncToY2ydxzELJ/


I'm sure the northeast park soccer field sells lots of hotel rooms <sarcasm>


How about Austin raises rates 2% in the city limits, and TC raises its tax on the hotels in unincorporated travis county (since that's all they ever seem to spend money on).

I think it's very very likely that the county will try to use that money to build a new arena and expo center at the Travis County Expo Grounds. The current proposal is big enough to attract top end events like the Erwin center currently does. It would not be big enough to host a NBA or NHL team but I don't think that is a problem. It also creates a new hotel district close to that facility and the county currently is preserving land for hotel/restaurant use.

That would require a county wide vote though. The other option for expanding the convention center would be taking some of the bonds spent for the last expansion and applying it to a new one but that would also require a vote for City of Austin residents.

I would vote for both.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #143  
Old Posted May 18, 2017, 6:46 AM
KevinFromTexas's Avatar
KevinFromTexas KevinFromTexas is offline
Chewing gum in the bushes
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: sunshine and taco trucks on every corner
Posts: 43,539
The design commission is meeting on this one on May 22 for the Hilton skywalk.

http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=277064
__________________
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #144  
Old Posted May 18, 2017, 2:12 PM
Novacek Novacek is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,002
Quote:
Originally Posted by brando View Post
I think it's very very likely that the county will try to use that money to build a new arena and expo center at the Travis County Expo Grounds. The current proposal is big enough to attract top end events like the Erwin center currently does. It would not be big enough to host a NBA or NHL team but I don't think that is a problem. It also creates a new hotel district close to that facility and the county currently is preserving land for hotel/restaurant use.
It would be one thing if they had decided they wanted to do that, then sat down and needed to figure out how to pay for it.

But according the the various reports, it seems to be the exact opposite. They don't want to miss their chance at their "cut", so they're throwing things against the wall to see what sticks.

https://www.austinmonitor.com/storie...sioners-court/

I might vote for the former, but I'd vote against the later.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #145  
Old Posted May 18, 2017, 4:32 PM
We vs us We vs us is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 304
Quote:
Originally Posted by Novacek View Post
It would be one thing if they had decided they wanted to do that, then sat down and needed to figure out how to pay for it.

But according the the various reports, it seems to be the exact opposite. They don't want to miss their chance at their "cut", so they're throwing things against the wall to see what sticks.

https://www.austinmonitor.com/storie...sioners-court/

I might vote for the former, but I'd vote against the later.
That was a good article -- it really put the County's reasoning into more perspective. That is, the city might unilaterally max out the HOT tax, and the County -- which hasn't been engaged up till this point, will lose out completely. AND look like asses.

My bet is that the Mayor/Council bundles a more complete Palm Park rehab into the ACC reno package (parts of which are already included in the proposed plan) and the County gets a public "win," in exchange for their support for ACC expansion itself.

#POLITICS
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #146  
Old Posted May 25, 2017, 1:45 PM
We vs us We vs us is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 304
CC expansion moves forward. Not clear from the article but I think City Council approval is the next big step.

https://www.austinmonitor.com/storie...ention-center/

EDIT: related >>> http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/ne...l-lead-to.html
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #147  
Old Posted May 25, 2017, 2:10 PM
The ATX's Avatar
The ATX The ATX is offline
A nice door
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: In a low-rise
Posts: 4,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by We vs us View Post
CC expansion moves forward. Not clear from the article but I think City Council approval is the next big step.

https://www.austinmonitor.com/storie...ention-center/

EDIT: related >>> http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/ne...l-lead-to.html
I never thought this project would have any trouble moving forward - until it reached City Council. Let the politics begin.
__________________
Austin on Urban Planet:
http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/forum/215-austin/
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #148  
Old Posted May 25, 2017, 5:54 PM
brando brando is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 180
Quote:
Originally Posted by The ATX View Post
I never thought this project would have any trouble moving forward - until it reached City Council. Let the politics begin.
Yea, it faced a lot of opposition. Ora Houston wanted to use the money to build a new arena in her district just like the courthouse. Gallo was concerned about traffic IIRC and there was just a lot of other skepticism. Community value was emphasized. There was also a few citizens who were extremely against it.

These recommendations would be a pretty big adjustment and really eat into the value of the expansion unless they make the building taller to accommodate multiple floors of retail and apartments. I understand the former but I think the latter is silly. I knew they already planned on having 1st floor retail but it sounds like more is being recommend which I don't think is an awful idea. Losing a lot of those sit down restaurants would be a big loss for the area. Apartments would also add a tremendous burden on traffic in the area which is already heavy.

The preferred plan didn't plan on closing any street access. They wanted to preserve Trinity for future right of way for rail which I'm sure will be built in the year 2300.

The entier projet seems like a no brainer. Although, I would be a huge proponent in doing whatever it takes to also build a new arena and expo center at the Travis County Grounds. It just makes too much sense. You already own the vast amount of property that can accommodate your parking needs. They are currently sitting on undeveloped land next to the grounds for future hotels, retail and restaurants. The arena would not be big enough to accommodate a NBA or NHL team would it would be big enough to get major concerts.


Who knows what will happen with the council. I'm hoping that Houston is replaced next year and Tovo's seat is filled by a progressive instead of a neighborhood interest. Although, I could see her running for Mayor against since she will be at her term limit.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #149  
Old Posted May 25, 2017, 7:18 PM
MichaelB MichaelB is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: North edge of Downtown
Posts: 2,618
There is a lot to consider with the expansion. Yes we need it. But it needs to be city and pedestrian friendly and not just a big blob that disrupts the flow on the street.
Looks like they are working towards that. So I'm glad.
BUT I do not want people storage warehouses to place tourists in while we all have to walk around it.
Time to do better.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #150  
Old Posted May 27, 2017, 2:01 AM
The ATX's Avatar
The ATX The ATX is offline
A nice door
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: In a low-rise
Posts: 4,819
It looks like the Hilton to CC sky bridge is back on track:

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/ne...on-austin.html

I can just see those "upper class snobs" looking down from the sky bridge upon the poor masses waiting for their CapMetro train ride back to to Leander. Get real.
__________________
Austin on Urban Planet:
http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/forum/215-austin/

Last edited by The ATX; Yesterday at 4:24 AM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #151  
Old Posted May 27, 2017, 2:56 AM
drummer drummer is offline
德克萨斯人 y'all
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Asia by way of Texas
Posts: 1,760
Quote:
Originally Posted by The ATX View Post
It looks like the Hilton to CC sky bridge is back on track:

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/ne...on-austin.html

I can just see those "upper class snobs" looking down from the sky bridge upon the poor masses waiting for their CapMetro train ride back to well to Leander. Get real.
Yeah, I don't see it as a have/have-nots thing here. It's simply a convenience factor for the hotel and the CC both...nothing more.
__________________
人无完人
Reply With Quote
     
     
End
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > United States > Texas & Southcentral > Austin
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 1:21 PM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.