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After Bunker Hill (GW) and Ferguson Alley (suggested by me #11 372), I guess Bruce you pointed a third "epicenter" of noir : East 5th. This post (at Wall Street and 5th looking East) remembered me a line in "The Blue Dahlia" (1946) (Alan Ladd & Veronica Lake). At 23:30 in the movie, a suspicious character named Leo says to Eddie Harwood (the bad character owner of the Blue Dahlia nightclub) :"Quinlan was bumped off a few nights ago over on East 5th".
[ -very interesting AlvaroLegido. I've been trying to locate the same view today but I can't make out the cross street.]


Sorry, E_R, I don't know how to post a Google Maps picture on the thread. I checked your photo on Google Maps and I recognized the beautiful Andrew Brown Building which is still there (first on the right on the noirish photo) by its emergency stairs and the windows at the second floor. I recognized the next building too. The rest (particularly on the left) has changed. We are at Wall Street and 5th looking to 5th Street to the East.
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Old Posted May 9, 2014, 6:48 AM
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A trio of photographs from 1927.


the area today, minus the viaduct.

google_earth

Does anyone know when the viaduct was removed?
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ER - The L.A. Library has this photo dated 1962. According to them, the viaduct was considered an eyesore and was soon to be torn down.


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Anyway, by 1972, it was gone.


http://www.historicaerials.com/aeria...4207&year=2005
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Old Posted May 9, 2014, 7:25 AM
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Here's a photograph by a young amateur photographer.

Los Angeles, 1920s

ITYL

Although it predate classic 'noir' by twenty years, I find it similarly mystifying.
I realize the clues are sparse, but I'd love to figure out where this was taken.



...and here's a second photograph by the same photographer (also from the 1920s).

-could it provide some additional clues?

ITYL

I picture this photographer hanging out along the railroad tracks just east of downtown.
(and west of the Los Angeles River)
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ER - I think you are right about the location. He was probably right around these three gas holders (they used
to be next to the 101 Freeway) and the railroad tracks.


http://www.historicaerials.com/aeria...4207&year=2005
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the area today, minus the viaduct.

google_earth

Does anyone know when the viaduct was removed?
I mentioned the viaduct when I posted pictures of the Pico & Rimpau Loop recently - it's just visible on the left of this aerial, although I can't see the smokestack.


USC Digital Library

An article I found on pacificelectric.org dates the demolition of the viaduct to around January 1963. It contains the following quote:

"The job had been scheduled to take 8 weeks, but dragged on for more then 14 weeks. The bridge did not give up as easily as the contractor had thought it would."


www.pacificelectric.org/Ralph Cantos


Previous posts on the viaduct:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=5381

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7534
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Old Posted May 9, 2014, 10:41 AM
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Sorry, E_R, I don't know how to post a Google Maps picture on the thread. I checked your photo on Google Maps and I recognized the beautiful Andrew Brown Building which is still there (first on the right on the noirish photo) by its emergency stairs and the windows at the second floor. I recognized the next building too. The rest (particularly on the left) has changed. We are at Wall Street and 5th looking to 5th Street to the East.
Here's the StreetView image. Is it just me, or do the balloons take the noirish edge off the picture?


GSV

For comparison, here's the image originally posted by e_r, although I've grayscaled it and tweaked the levels to try and bring out the detail.


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-very interesting Alvarolegido. I've been trying to locate the same view today but I can't make out the cross street.

Evergreen Avenue and Malabar Street, East Los Angeles 1932

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/fu...pd/53754/rec/1
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Nearby at 2801 Wabash Avenue is the well-preserved Malabar Branch Library, built in 1927...

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Where's my chainsaw?

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Could the hanging lamp still be there?
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I wasn't aware of the Malabar Branch Library GW. Thx for bringing it to my/our attention.


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ER - I think you are right about the location. He was probably right around these three gas holders (they used
to be next to the 101 Freeway) and the railroad tracks.


http://www.historicaerials.com/aeria...4207&year=2005
Los Angeles 1920s

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21341


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21341

The two intriguing photographs were taken by 20 year old amateur photograph George Hodel.
(yes, that George Hodel...the Black Dahlia murder suspect)
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-not sure if we've seen this early pc on NLA. (worth a second look anyway)


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This is the same building that housed the subterranean Dragon's Den. (seen in the classic noir 'Criss Cross')

earlier post here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12112



Compare the two arched windows and the two and a half basement windows with the earlier postcard.
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I can't find any previous mentions of the Wilcrest Apartment Hotel at 611-619 S Normandie Avenue. It's just north of Wilshire, and right next door to the Chateau La Martine mentioned recently by e_r (see here). The seller dates the postcard as 1940s.



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The sign outside now appears to say something like "Normandie Garden Apartments", but Googling that gives a different building. Have you still got that chainsaw handy, GW?


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-beautiful postcard scan
I like that the 'concave' center entrance has survived. (we've discussed this apt. before, but like you HossC, I wasn't able to find an earlier post)


We've seen many photographs of the Hollywood Hotel over the years on NLA. Here's a photograph showing the aging hotel's
Highland Avenue side in 1952.


ebay

-those first two cars need to turn into the nearest car wash.




Here's a similar view, also dated 1952. -originally posted by ChuckaLuck

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7998

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Shriner's Hospital, 3160 Geneva Street


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I found this earlier this afternoon on ebay.

1920s


I'm struck by the unique building on the left. It doesn't appear to fit any one architectural style.
The bottom columns look as if they could have been inspired by Egyptian tombs, while the third floor with it's deeply recessed windows
looks almost bunker-like. All that said, the second floor is probably the most intriguing with it's hard to describe 'blocky' design.

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Tinker to Evers to _ _ _ _ _ _

Frank Leroy Chance, "The Peerless Leader," player-manager of the Chicago Cubs (1905-12) and manager of the Los Angeles Angels (1916-17), built the Frank L. Chance Building in Glendora (20 miles east of Pasadena) on the NE corner of Glendora Ave. and Foothill Blvd. (then Michigan and Minnehaha Avenues) in 1912. Chance and teammates Joe Tinker and Johnny Evers, immortalized in a bit of doggerel by Franklin P. Adams, were all inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1946.

c. 1912; note The Cub Grocery on the left and Cub Pharmacy on the right:

LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00076/00076287.jpg

c. 1913:

LAPL -- http://jpg1.lapl.org/00076/00076286.jpg

Chance died September 15, 1924, at Good Samaritan Hospital in Los Angeles; below is part of the LA Times article on his death the next day. The St. Maxon referred to in the article was at 653 S. Burlington, on the SW corner of Wilshire, where there is now a school.

LA Times

But the Frank L. Chance Building is still standing:

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Old Posted May 9, 2014, 10:58 PM
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Very interesting FW. That's a nice looking survivor.





this one turned up on ebay this afternoon as well.

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..and from the opposite direction.

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Stumbled across this: The Alex Theatre (Alex Film Society, it's a .org so I assume it's ok to post this) in Glendale, is running a film noir double feature July 26, 2014; "Gun Crazy" and "The Lineup." Here's the link, should the noir classics types be interested:

http://www.alextheatre.org/event/ale...razythe-lineup

Having gown up in Atwater (Village), I frequented the Alex Theatre (A historic landmark) as a kid/teen. If you've never been, it's worth the visit regardless of what's being screened.

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I found this earlier this afternoon on ebay.

1920s


I'm struck by the unique building on the left. It doesn't appear to fit any one architectural style.
The bottom columns look as if they could have been inspired by Egyptian tombs, while the third floor with it's deeply recessed windows
looks almost bunker-like. All that said, the second floor is probably the most intriguing with it's hard to describe 'blocky' design.
The Merritt Building has caught your interest before.

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"The beautiful white marble Merritt Building." Broadway at 8th Street.


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The Merritt Building in 1957.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...ner-m3091.html
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Wowzers!

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This here is a good reply to this -----> http://youtu.be/FONN-0uoTHI
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The Merritt Building has caught your interest before.
lol. I didn't recognize it by seeing only the bottom three floors.
Here I thought I had discovered some architectural anomaly. ha

I looked again at that large photo of the Merritt Building. Were the rounded columns on the first floor still there at that point in time?
I don't see them, and the entire first floor looks much darker.

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See what I mean. The first floor looks entirely different when compared to the 1920s photograph.
(of course this happens to a majority of vintage buildings)
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