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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 6:49 AM
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975 Meter Superscraper In Miami Could Steal Dubai's Crown


20. JAN, 2010

Plans have been floated for a new superscraper in Miami that could steal the world’s tallest crown from Dubai’s Burj Khalifa.

Despite Miami’s financial woes, having a reported 100,000 plus properties in foreclosure according to the Miami Herald, Kobi Karp has submitted designs for Miapolis - a ‘city within a city’ planned for Watson Island.

The 160 storey building would be more than 183 metres higher than the Burj Khalifa if built and would house an amusement park, observatory, restaurants, 1.96 million sq ft of shops, over 1000 apartments, 1 million sq ft office space and a 792 room hotel.

The project has been around for more than a decade but it is reported that developer Guillermo Socarras has been in talks with the Federal Aviation Administration to secure approval for the height of the tower.

The project is currently looking for funding from investors.




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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 10:56 AM
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I'm still undecided on Burj Khalifa, but I still think it's light years ahead of this.

Tbh I'm disappointed the west can't come up with a better design. This is really, really bad.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 4:36 PM
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bhhhhaaaa, in this one case i hope the FAA is able to enforce it's height restrictions. That thing is awful. I'm sure the chance of it getting built are slim however.
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neat renderings. . . that's probably all we'll see of this though. . . for better or worse. . .
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holy eye-sore batman. if the US ever goes this tall, i hope we can come up with something better and more deserving than that pile. the base is just awful; what a nonsensical, disorganized, mish-mash.
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^^^ I agree, I feel like people just can't figure out how to design aesthetically pleasing ultratalls. I mean there was a huge change in design theory when we first started designing highrises (good old Louie Sullivan and his base, shaft, and cornice theory) and then another change when we started designing Supertalls, adding necessary flow and gradually changing details from the bottom to the top. But I just haven't seen a cohesive plan for a building in the neighborhood of 2500' yet. In fact, the tallest design I've seen that "works" and doesn't look forced in some way is the Chicago Spire and that really just uses the same tricks that were used by supertalls all along. You have a well detailed building that starts with an interesting base and gradually tapers to a point as it gets taller. So that doesn't even really count as an effective ultratall design.

I can't wait to see a 3000' building that "works" because I have no idea how it will look.
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Yeah... no.

This is also right in the approach path of MIA.
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More of a vision/fantasy than a real proposal. For one the guy doesn't even own the land that he is proposing this on. Plus the FAA has a 1049 foot cap on Downtown Miami due to its proximity to the airport. Will never happen (thank god).
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2010, 12:58 AM
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Plus the FAA has a 1049 foot cap on Downtown Miami due to its proximity to the airport. Will never happen (thank god).
And the FAA still has a 2,000 foot cap throughout the whole country, if i'm correct.
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More of a vision/fantasy than a real proposal. For one the guy doesn't even own the land that he is proposing this on. Plus the FAA has a 1049 foot cap on Downtown Miami due to its proximity to the airport. Will never happen (thank god).
Not to mention the fact that the McCarthur causeway which runs through the island is a major hurricane evacuation route for the residents of Miami Beach. This will never happen.
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Besides the amount of demand this would suck up might be better put towards continuing infill in Brickell and Downtown
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"looking for investors".... so basically this thread is a waste of bandwidth.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2010, 5:12 AM
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And the FAA still has a 2,000 foot cap throughout the whole country, if i'm correct.
This is a myth. There is no cap. There is only the assumption that there is probably no good reason to build anything above 2000ft that will unecessarily intrude into the airspace. Thus the FAA and FCC have a policy of not issuing permits to build above 2000' unless the applicant presents a good arguement as to why they should be allowed to build so high. There is no cap or law preventing it.

In other words the only thing that happens at 2000' is that the developer now has the burden of proof to show that there is a need for a 2000' structure that outweighs the disadvantage of the intrusion on the airspace.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2010, 5:20 AM
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so basically this thread is a waste of bandwidth.
Not really. Like you said, it's looking for financial support.

..like countless others on this sub-forum...
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