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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 1:25 AM
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Anyway it is no use debating with you guys, because you totally take my comments out of context and think I want 100% of everything downtown, etc. When that is not true.
I think it's already obvious to everyone that you don't want 100% of everything downtown, based on your suggestions in other threads that there should be a moratorium on new condos in downtown Toronto.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 4:19 AM
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And almost the entire GTA is within an hour of downtown by GO Train.
If the trains were electrified, than the commutes would be even faster.
You realize the trains are subject to speed limits, right? Because they have to pass through residential areas on what is essentially freight track, they won't be running much faster than they already are.

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If Toronto was in Europe it would be a veritable Shangri-la. A city fit for the Sun King himself. Mere celestials would tremble before it's gilded subways and high levels of downtown employment.
Oh god, I had a good laugh at that one.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 2:57 PM
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You bet there are.

London has over a million jobs in Central London. And they are planning on adding hundreds of thousands more.

The Paris CBD has over one million jobs, and the figure is higher when you include other areas which comprise the extended CBD like La Defense, which actually is not that far from Central Paris.
If you superimpose onto Toronto the size of Central London or Paris' CBD and La Defense which "aren't that far from each other" (so I guess we're including what's between them? Or are you willing to include NYCC and Scarborough Centre in your definition of downtown?), you're probably going to find at least a 700,000 jobs, and Toronto is just over half the size of London and a bit more than a third of the size of Paris.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 3:18 PM
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To provide some actual numbers, Toronto's downtown area employed 420,500 in 2009, up from 385,900 in 2004. This is defined as the area roughly bounded by the Lake, Bathurst St, Bloor St (with some exceptions) and the Don River.

Yonge-Eglinton employs 20,800, NYCC 34,700. There are probably about 10,000 jobs at Yonge and St. Clair.

700,000 is not a bad guess if you included all the gaps between downtown and the Centres.

Source: http://www.toronto.ca/demographics/pdf/survey2009.pdf It should be noted that these numbers are based on a manual survey and do not account for any undercount or employment that takes place at non-visible places of employment (home-based etc).

I can't find any definitive numbers for London and would be interested to see them. Wikipedia cites an employment level of 330,000 for the City of London, but "downtown" would cover a somewhat larger area. Plus Canary Wharf I guess.
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2011, 3:54 PM
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Well still, almost half a million jobs in a city less than half the size of two European cities with just over a million jobs in their downtowns isn't that bad by comparison.
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Actually 905ers have some of the best transit access to the core. Most can get downtown faster than people who live within Toronto and use the TTC.

Most of the 905 is within a 30-45 minute GO Train ride from downtown.

And almost the entire GTA is within an hour of downtown by GO Train.
If the trains were electrified, than the commutes would be even faster.
Of course this reasoning is based on the notion that the GO services the 905 exclusively.
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This matches up with what I'm getting now that I'm looking into these patterns. About 100-110k 905ers working downtown and most of them get there by transit. 905ers do contribute to some downtown congestion but not as much as it's often made out to be.
http://swontariourbanist.blogspot.ca...from-part.html

Also - looking into it more, there's about as many downtown residents commuting by car (the ones going by car are mostly reverse commuting) as there are people commuting by car to downtown from the entire 905.
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