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This will be a big blow to Ford if he fails this.
Yeah right. As if his A.D.D. hardcore supporters really care about a subway over the appearance of more money in their pockets from tax cuts.
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Yeah right. As if his A.D.D. hardcore supporters really care about a subway over the appearance of more money in their pockets from tax cuts.
There are not enough of them. Too many people are mad, he is a one and done canidate as long as we can find someone suitable(maybe you Tony?) because Adam Vaughan will not cut it.
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Cost of cancelling Transit City could hit $65-million


Dec. 13, 2011

By Elizabeth Church

Read More: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2270358/

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Just as Mayor Rob Ford is trying to squeeze every penny out of Toronto’s budget, news comes that the city is bracing for a $65-million bill for a transit plan he cancelled on his first day in office. The multimillion-dollar price tag is the latest estimate for cancelling the Sheppard and Finch light-rail lines – part of former mayor David Miller’s Transit City plan. It comes as the city’s transit users are facing fare hikes and reduced service, measures planned for the new year to meet the mayor’s demands for a 10-per-cent budget cut. The new expense surfaced Tuesday during budget discussions, where city councillors also weighed the merits of closing pools and community centres in order to save dollars.

The cost of the cancelled lines is not even included in those discussions. The outstanding expense to the struggling transit system is not part of next year’s budget because the city is still waiting for a bill from the province. “We haven’t received an invoice,” TTC general manager Gary Webster told the city’s budget committee when asked about the missing charge. Metrolinx, the province’s transit agency, has put the cost at $65-million, he said. The provincial agency said it is working on the final figure. “Currently, we are still reviewing the costs with the TTC and our light-rail vehicle supplier. It is important for us to be as accurate as possible,” said a Metrolinx spokeswoman in a statement.

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There are not enough of them. Too many people are mad, he is a one and done canidate as long as we can find someone suitable(maybe you Tony?) because Adam Vaughan will not cut it.
lol, I thought about this for like a good 10 minutes last year. Think about how awesome it would look on your resume for it to simply say "City of Toronto Mayoral Candidate 2010". All for what.. a couple hundred bucks?
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lol, I thought about this for like a good 10 minutes last year. Think about how awesome it would look on your resume for it to simply say "City of Toronto Mayoral Candidate 2010". All for what.. a couple hundred bucks?
I wanted to. But I have no work experience, and I don't think I could right out of school. I need work experience. And I live in Oakville (for now)
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Cost of cancelling Transit City could hit $65-million


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Read More: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2270358/


Who is really surprised? Another lie out of the Ford camp. I am convinced this man had a agenda from day 1 to literally put the TTC on its dying knees. I can't believe somebody to truly be this incompetent when it comes to public transit. I believe this is a stunt simply because him and his mouthpieces have agreed to raise fares and cut service. I don't care what your views are on transit, from a business standpoint its suicide. People will take one of them to an extreme but not both.

This man is a goon, and if Toronto keeps playing nice and does not start pushing back he will bury our City further. The press now is starting to spit out the kool-aid, all sides are not giving him the slack anymore. Even Sun News writes critical pieces of Ford no and then. Its time for the general public to step up also.
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Signage along Toronto's Highway 7 obviously promoting the construction of the VIVA Rapidway (busway):

From sonysnob - photo of poster promoting ViVa busway.
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Daily GO service to Kitchener, Guelph, begins
12/19/2011 (Erin Criger, CityNews.ca)

Commuters in Kitchener and Guelph will have an easier time getting to Toronto, but they may not necessarily arrive on time.

The Georgetown GO train line has been extended, meaning there is now daily GO service to both towns.

Two trains left Kitchener in the morning, and hit Guelph and then Georgetown before continuing to Union Station.

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/cityne...-guelph-begins
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So Can City Council force a vote on Transit city?
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Just to update, my office is in Mississauga and everyday it looks like progress is being made on the Busway that will run right past my office building. - Too bad I live in toronto otherwise I might have gotten a chance to use it.

Main benefit is for the peeps in Mississauga.
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Just to update, my office is in Mississauga and everyday it looks like progress is being made on the Busway that will run right past my office building. - Too bad I live in toronto otherwise I might have gotten a chance to use it.

Main benefit is for the peeps in Mississauga.
The surprising thing is that there is already full-force construction beside Eglinton Avenue (I think the action right now is at Orbitor/Centennial Park) even though the contract for it has not been released at all.
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Is that a possible bike lane? Even Richmond Hill seems more forward thinking then our dumb-ass mayor and his stooge crew.
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Is that what the Transit city stations would have looked like?
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Rob Ford is the worst thing to happen to toronto since hurricane Hazel
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Rob Ford’s war on public transit


Dec 30 2011

Read More: http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1109029

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Bungled and botched policies are hallmarks of the Ford administration, but no file has been more badly mishandled at Toronto City Hall than public transit. The impact of that failure hits riders starting Sunday, when a 10-cent fare increase kicks in. But that marks only the beginning of their woes in the coming year, and beyond, thanks to Mayor Rob Ford. On taking office last December, Ford forthrightly declared his goal of making life easier for motorists, announcing: “The war on the car is over.” Left unsaid — but made clear by subsequent events — was that a war on public transit had begun. The 10-cent fare hike is part of the onslaught. Yes, there have been plenty of fare increases in the past, including under Ford’s predecessor, David Miller. But Miller raised fares while expanding public transit and giving riders more for their money. The Ford administration is doing the opposite

- Even some of the mayor’s supporters now recognize that burying the entire 20-kilometre length of the Eglinton line would be a mistake. The original Transit City plan called for putting about 11 kilometres underground, in the most built-up sections of Toronto’s downtown. It was correctly felt that beyond this zone there would be ample space on Eglinton to accommodate both surface light rail and car traffic. But that wasn’t good enough for Ford. His burial plan almost doubles the cost of the Eglinton light rail line, to more than $8 billion, while providing fewer stops for commuters. Riders are shortchanged. But never mind: it’s more convenient for drivers. Ford’s flawed vision for public transit involves replacing another planned light rail line, the Sheppard East route, with a subway. The problem there is that Toronto doesn’t have an extra $4 billion to build a Sheppard subway. No worries, says Ford; the private sector will cover most of that.

- The bottom line: Ford rashly took a comprehensive and provincially funded transit plan and tore it up in favour of building a subway the city doesn’t need (the entirely underground Eglinton line) and a subway it can’t afford (the Sheppard line). Because the switch involved cancelling several already-signed contracts, it’s going to cost an estimated $65 million in penalties. That’s another $65 million that could have been invested in public transit but is instead being thrown away. Outraged? Relax, motorists still get their tax cut. It’s now clear that Ford’s approach consists of little more than telling people what they want to hear, regardless of the facts. His simplistic and repeated denial of reality is an understandable strategy, given that it got him elected. But reality has a nasty way of making itself felt over the long run. The real pity is that a great deal of damage has already been done. And those in line for future pain are this city’s hard-pressed transit riders.

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Ford is the transit equivalent of the Nazis. He's single-handedly putting Toronto back a decade or worse. If we had another term of Miller we would already have the Eglinton line under construction and many other lines in the EA process. Now we have one line that will be a billion dollars more expensive than it needs to be, won't be done for 10 years, and no other lines realistically on the way, all while having desperate bus routes CUT.

The only thing that will save the city now is full scale coup.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2310330/

Union Station remake aims to be another jewel in Toronto’s crown

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The remaking of Union Station is set to refresh the venerable but dowdy transit hub by 2015. Its crown will be a spectacular $50-million, 70,000-square-foot atrium of steel and glass that will float like a luminous cloud 50 feet over the train tracks.
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The overall renovation will see a new concourse and offices with more light, exits and space in anticipation of the 50 million passengers a year who use the 180 GO trains, 35 VIA Rail trains and 400 GO buses daily. Those passenger volumes are expected to hit 80 million per annum by 2035.

The designers of the new atrium, Zeidler Partnership Architects senior partner Tarek El-Khatib and his team, say they were inspired by the existing windows at Union Station, which opened in 1927 and is a designated a heritage building.
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Eventually Mr. El-Khatib and his team came up with a bold and innovative concept, eschewing the ubiquitous arch for a square, flat canopy held up by elegant steel columns slanting vertically.

There will be a total 220,000 square feet of glass making up the top and sides, which hang down to create sidewalls and louvres that will vent diesel fumes.
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There will also be a green roof component and an array of solar panels that will generate electricity to offset the power consumed by the thousands of LED lights that will be embedded in the canopy. At nighttime its glow will be visible for miles, including to those on the Gardiner Expressway, in office towers and condominium high rises downtown and passengers on airplanes in and out of the Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport and, sometimes, Lester B. Pearson International Airport.
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In all, there are some 4,500 glass panels about to be installed, each some seven feet square, and each one having a slightly different opaqueness to give it a “dappled” look in daylight.

The atrium will be constructed over seven stages with the first-stage trusses going into place now through spring, with the glass to follow. Construction is expected to finish in 2014 with the overall project wrapping up a year later.
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TTC head favours surface LRT on suburban stretch of Eglinton


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Karen Stintz argues it makes more sense to put the LRT underground only along the most congested part of the route, in midtown, while building it on the surface in the spacious suburbs. “If the decision is to go with an LRT, it should be at-grade,” she said. “If there’s a decision to put it underground, it should be a subway.”

- Any rethink on the line, however, would lead to further delays. Metrolinx, the provincial agency building the LRT, has little desire to change course. Renegotiating the plan between the city and province would take time and some already completed design work would have to be redone. Upgrading to a full subway would force Metrolinx to cancel a contract for light-rail cars.

- As a result, the province is forging ahead with a plan that draws fire from one side for falling short of a subway and from the other for sucking up precious transit dollars that could be used to expand the network elsewhere. Last month, Councillor John Parker, normally an ally of Mr. Ford’s, dubbed the plan “goofy.”

- It is also unprecedented in North America. While numerous cities – Boston, Guadalajara and Edmonton, to name three – put parts of their light-rail systems underground, the tunnels are used to get trains through dense downtowns, not suburbia like Eglinton East.

- Critics of surface light rail argue such systems can’t achieve the same speeds as a subway, but this is not necessarily true. On Martin Luther King Jr. Way South in suburban Seattle – an arterial road similar to Eglinton Ave. East – light-rail trains zip along just as quickly as Toronto’s Yonge-University-Spadina line. The reason? Stations are spaced far apart and traffic lights are controlled to ensure trains don’t have to stop at cross streets.

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I think that one of you guys from Toronto should run for mayor, you would know what to do with the transit issues. This thread has become a bitch about Ford thread now, like most of the other ones.

Any candidates?
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