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Old Posted Jan 30, 2013, 2:23 AM
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Shouldn't this thread be in the Transportation forum?
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Meanwhile, the new Kosciuszko Bridge (Brooklyn/Queens) will get underway also...
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If I remember correctly the Kosciuszko has four lanes northbound, three lanes southbound. The wiki says the bridge is mounted somewhere by two eagles, one polish, one American. I've crossed it a million times and never noticed, nor can I find a picture of them.

Anyhow, I hope the new bridge is just as high off the ground because the view of Midtown from the crest is excellent.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2013, 1:59 PM
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http://www.lohud.com/article/2013020...%7Ctext%7CNews

Tappan Zee Bridge traffic shifts to new span in 2016





Feb 4, 2013

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Residents have long known that the Tappan Zee Bridge’s days were numbered, but now they know exactly how long it has left: three years.

In 2016, all traffic from the creaky, often congested bridge that will be entering its sixth decade by then will be shifted to one of the two spans that will replace it. The old bridge will be demolished so construction of the second span can be completed. The southern span is projected to open in 2018.

Brian Conybeare, a special adviser on the project, provided the update Monday night as part of a broad timeline for construction of the new Tappan Zee. The meeting also marked the first formal introduction of officials from Tappan Zee Constructors, the joint venture that secured a $3.1 billion state contract last month to design and build the replacement crossing.

“The clock is now ticking,” Conybeare told the 120 people in attendance at the Westchester Marriott. “They are ready to take action.”


Tappan Zee Constructors is made up of four primary partners: Fluor Enterprises, American Bridge Co., Tarrytown-based Granite Construction Northeast Inc. and Traylor Bros. Inc. “We’ve been working as a team on this project for over a year now,” TZC project manager and Vice President Walter Reichert said. “We’ve gone through eight or 10 versions of this to try to get the most economical, best, most long-lasting bridge that we could come up with.”

Officials outlined some of the work that residents will see this year. In all, construction is expected to last just under five years and three months. In March, staging areas will be established underneath the bridge and soil samples will begin to be collected from the bottom of the Hudson River. Test piles will be installed in the middle of the river in June, but Conybeare said the work won’t be as loud as what residents heard last spring. Dredging will follow after Aug. 1, which marks the three-month window the state has by law to do the work in the shallow waters.

TZC expects to dig up 951,000 cubic yards of riverbed to make room for construction barges and heavy equipment. The two spans will be built side by side starting in the middle of the Hudson and work their way toward land on either shore.


































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Its a good looking bridge. My only complains being that there is no incorporated rail infrastructure from the beginning and that the support piers outside of the main span have a "stock highway engineer" look to them instead of carrying the outward "V" shape theme of the central suspension span. This would have made for a much more handsome appearance.
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Its a good looking bridge. My only complains being that there is no incorporated rail infrastructure from the beginning and that the support piers outside of the main span have a "stock highway engineer" look to them instead of carrying the outward "V" shape theme of the central suspension span. This would have made for a much more handsome appearance.
It's going to be built to handle rail in the future. There just won't be rail infrastructure on it for now.
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My only complains being that there is no incorporated rail infrastructure from the beginning
There's no money for that now. If they wanted to wait, we could be waiting decades again for this to move forward, and the bridge would probably have to be closed long before then. They have to act. Sure, it would be ideal to have everything in place now, but its just not possible. It's amazing that they're getting this much done.
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Tappan Zee: Public prefers sleeker tower tops





March 21, 2013
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It’s clear which tower-top design the public wants to see on the new Tappan Zee Bridge.

Diagonally cut tower tops that would soar 419 feet above the water were the overwhelming favorite among 220 comments the state received from the public, officials said Thursday. It was also what the state’s bridge aesthetic panel had recommended.

Last week, the state asked the public to weigh in on two tower-top designs for the new 3-mile span. People viewed drawings on NewNYBridge.com and submitted comments.

The chosen design, which will give the bridge a sleeker look, will cost roughly $2 million more than Tappan Zee Constructors’ original proposal but won’t require changes to the construction project schedule or the remaining structure, state officials say. Tappan Zee Constructors’ original plan had called for block-shaped tower tops that would rise 409 feet above the water.

“Gov. (Andrew) Cuomo has made it clear that transparency and public input must play a key role in the construction of the New New York Bridge,” said the panel’s chairman, Brian Conybeare, who is also Cuomo’s special adviser on the project. “The success of this process has reinforced that the (panel) is essential in both achieving this goal and giving Hudson Valley residents a bridge they can be proud of.”
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They need rail on it from Day 1. If there's no money for rail right now, then they should just hold off on building the bridge until there's money.

Rail is a huge priority, and shouldn't be delayed until the future. The West-of-Hudson commuting population desperately needs another rail crossing over the river.
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A new bridge has been necessary for 10 years, postponing it to wait for the perfect scenario in which rail would be included would be foolish and be a waste of hundreds of millions of dollars. You can't let perfect stand in the way of good.
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The bridge the Port Authority is building looks very similar...


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/s...PAIkYBb5Z0rBrK

Port Authority approves $1.5B contract to replace Goethals Bridge





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The Port Authority today approved a $1.5 billion contract to replace the creaking 85-year-old Goethals Bridge between Staten Island and New Jersey with a spiffy new pair of cable-stayed structures.

Construction will begin later this year, the bridges will take their first traffic in late 2016, and will be fully completed by 2017, the Port Authority says.

Agency officials the plan “historic” — because it’s the first new Port Authority span since the George Washington Bridge opened in 1931, and because the contractor will maintain and operate the bridges for 40 years. It’s also expected to boost to the construction industry with 2,250 new jobs.

The bridge should speed traffic by offering three vehicle lanes in each direction, compared to two lanes in each direction on the current bridge.

The bridges, expected to last 100 years, will also include a bicycling and pedestrian path, and will “include options for mass transit in the future,” the Port Authority says.

Once the new bridges are finished, workers will tear down the old Goethals Bridge, a steel cantilever span that cost just $7.2 million to build in the 1920s.

Also today, the Port Authority OK’d a $743.3 million contract to raise the deck of the Bayonne Bridge by 64 feet, to make room for bigger ships calling at the Port of Newark.

The Goethals project is the second big bridge replacement in the area. Dredging work is expected to start later this year on a new $3.9 billion Tappan Zee Bridge across the Hudson River.
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The bridge the Port Authority is building looks very similar...
What the hell?! It's the same thing....
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what do you think there are bridge designers these days? you unpack them from a kit. levitt bridges?!
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What the hell?! It's the same thing....
Yeah, one is just a lot longer. Of the 3 major bridges being built in the area, which one looks best? Probably the smallest one, but they are all similar.






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Speaking of similar bridges:

Verrazano:


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People can crow about the generic designs all they want, but the truth is the bridges add far more value as infrastructure than any architectural elements could ever add. New bridges in these spots are LONG overdue. The current ones outgrew their intended capacity ages ago.
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I like the KO and the Goethals proposal. Not really a fan of the Tappan Zee proposal.

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People can crow about the generic designs all they want, but the truth is the bridges add far more value as infrastructure than any architectural elements could ever add. New bridges in these spots are LONG overdue. The current ones outgrew their intended capacity ages ago.
Bridges can look good while having value as infrastructure.
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Speaking of similar bridges:

Verrazano:
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Those are similar, though I put the Verrazano in another league. I'm sure the selection of the current designs had most to do with cost than anything else. That's fine, as long as the bridges get built.

For more on the variety of bridges around town, check below...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=170077
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Bridges can look good while having value as infrastructure.
Sure, are you going to put up the extra $500 million to make that happen?
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The single tower cable-stayed bridge that'll replace the old City Island Bridge


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The bridge to Staten Island should include an HBLR extension. The whole "options for mass transit in the future" is a bunch of bull. It might not even be feasible to retrofit it with rail in the future. Same goes for the other bridge.
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