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Old Posted Apr 24, 2013, 1:36 PM
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The article says it'll peak out at 700', which seems high for 25 stories. Of course, they also implied the Hyatt Regency (Grand Hyatt, I guess) is 500' tall, which isn't the case, so who knows?
I'm not sure what the 700' figure represents. I doubt it's the buildings height. Btw, it is 25 stories, but it's 25 stories on top of five stories, so it's true height is 30 stories.
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Obviously they benefited from bringing an SA architect on board. The rendering reminds me of the Wells Fargo tower in Minneapolis. At 700 feet, it would only be 74 feet shorter than that building. Obviously that isn't the case. This building looks roughly equivalent to the Hyatt at ~400 feet, though its tough to scale visually with the memorial in the foreground. Regardless, it will noticeably fill a hole in the skyline, even if the HDRC is successful in skimming off a few more stories.
In the article, it says the smaller tower's height is nearly identical to the Emily Morgan hotel. The Emily Morgan is 205 feet tall.

So I'd venture to say the bigger tower is near 400' if not 400' feet or above. If I has to wager a guess, I'd say maybe 410'-420'.

God, I hope the HDRC just leaves it alone and approves it. Heck, if they don't, I hope they still try and get it passes by the city council.
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In the article, it says the smaller tower's height is nearly identical to the Emily Morgan hotel. The Emily Morgan is 205 feet tall.

So I'd venture to say the bigger tower is near 400' if not 400' feet or above. If I has to wager a guess, I'd say maybe 410'-420'.

God, I hope the HDRC just leaves it alone and approves it. Heck, if they don't, I hope they still try and get it passes by the city council.
Writer was misinformed. I tweeted as much to him and he acknowledged.

It is 700 feet from Alamo, not 700 feet tall.

Also in this link - a link to a LOT of renderings: https://twitter.com/kyleburkholder/s...14176549285888
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I just did a google earth measurement and I have to believe the 700 and 200 feet figures has to do with the distance from the Alamo.
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Writer was misinformed. I tweeted as much to him and he acknowledged.

It is 700 feet from Alamo, not 700 feet tall.

Also in this link - a link to a LOT of renderings: https://twitter.com/kyleburkholder/s...14176549285888
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2013, 2:08 PM
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Thanks for the link Kyle.

Here are the renderings:











So it'll be 400' feet. Not bad.

The first domino has fallen for downtown. Let the games begin!
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Wow! Very nice design. I really like that. The HDRC members may have been able to see more than us, but I'm not sure what they're talking about with the podium being too big. In the rendering what appears to be a podium along Alamo Street, is actually the Joske department store building itself. If they're referring to that taller portion that faces Commerce Street and rises about half as tall as the main tower, that's not a podium, it's a wing of the hotel. Taking that wing out would greatly reduce the size of the hotel. If that space was placed in the main tower this would be a much taller building then.

As for that 700 foot height, I'm sure it's not that tall. I counted 25 floors in the rendering above the roof of the Joske Building. And since the Joske Building is 5 floors, that would make it 30 floors. I would estimate at that height that it would be between 350 and 400 feet.

My guess is the developers are saying 25 floors and up to 700 feet as a way of saying that if they have to remove that wing I talked about that that space would go into the main tower and make the building much taller. Although, it sure does look tall in that rendering. I really like the design. And really, this building is no more intrusive than either the Marriott Riverwalk Hotel or the Marriott Rivercenter Hotel. And it's certainly less intrusive than the Grand Hyatt.

Fort Worth's Omni Fort Worth Hotel is 447 feet tall with 32 floors.

The Grand Hyatt in San Antonio is 424 feet to the mechanical penthouse screen. The actual mechanical penthouse roof, which is hidden by the screen, is 408 feet above the street. The main roof height is 389 feet. Grand Hyatt has 34 floors.

Austin is building a new JW Marriott convention hotel that will be 408 feet tall with 34 floors.

Austin also has a proposed 50-story hotel that I was told would be 581 feet to the roof.

Houston is also getting ready to start construction on a 33 to 34-story Marriott Marquis that seems to be 400 to 450 feet according to the renderings.
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Well that new info clears up a few things. haha Man, I hope the HDRC doesn't mess this up. I gotta say, the architects hit the ball out of the park with this one. That is such a perfect design for this project. It meshes so well with the design of the Joske Building. Seeing those additional renderings, I think the design is very respectful of the Joske Building and the area.

You guys should post this in the main highrise proposals section. This is a very nice tower!
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As you guys mentioned, that 700 foot number is the distance from the Alamo. I can totally see how the writer got the height wrong. Look at that diagram. Those numbers below the buildings are listing distance. The Tower of the Americas is definitely not 2,500 feet tall, and I'm pretty sure the Alamo is taller than 0 feet tall. lol
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Now that's a building befitting of its location. Bravo!
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So much better!
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Is there anyway to have the title say 30-story highrise instead of 30-story hotel or at the very least 30-story mixed use.
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So much better!
I'm really interested in what BC Lynd has in store for their lot off Jefferson.
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I'm really interested in what BC Lynd has in store for their lot off Jefferson.
Wasn't that going to be condos at one point along time ago, or am I making that up?
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Obviously they benefited from bringing an SA architect on board.
I believe the original design was done by SA Partnership which is a local company but in all honesty, I've never been a fan of their work.
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Wasn't that going to be condos at one point along time ago, or am I making that up?
It'll be residential but not sure of apartments or condos.

BC Lynd bought the land within the lat year or maybe two years. Around the time they bought the St. Anthony hotel.
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This is a very nice design. It's such a sophisticated and nuanced design that I have trouble believing the earlier renderings were anything other than a placeholder/concept piece. They didn't demonstrate anything close to the architectural competency or facility of this design. (And they made me want to wretch.)


Edit: Also, on the link Kyle shared, are those renderings of the changes shown to Hemisfair Park/Convention Center reliable? Have we seen those before?
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Now this looks good!
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Edit: Also, on the link Kyle shared, are those renderings of the changes shown to Hemisfair Park/Convention Center reliable? Have we seen those before?
I really doubt it. It just seems like something they designed just to show how the future area will look. They have the CC expansion in the design and that's not yet designed nor is Overland designing it.
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