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[St. John's] APP Hotel | 11 Floors | Proposed

This is for a three story extension on the top of the Atlantic Place Garage.





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Here's some slides about the project:



What's there now:



Floor plan options:



more renders (Low Quality )







All from http://www.stjohns.ca/sites/default/...27s%20Cove.pdf
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Time for a new thread? A public meeting for the Atlantic Place Parking Garage Hotel (dubbed APP Hotel) will be held July 4. Here's a background on the development!

http://www.stjohns.ca/sites/default/...27s%20Cove.pdf
here you go and thanks! I'm going to post some images from that document
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Wish they could have used high quality pictures.
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I think its ugly.

I think what is there now is uglier.

But its still ugly.

I don't like the colors, they look bad on top of a brown brick.

Perhaps higher quality renders would sway me.
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Maybe they can get Skittles to cover the cost of highest-quality materials?
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I think they need to show better quality renders
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I really like the look of the top portion, but whatever it looks like they're doing to the garage looks horrible. It looks like they're just going to throw coloured chicken wire over the disgusting brown brick that is there now, and by doing so they don't even cover up the brown brick. You still see it.

If they want to sway me I need better renders showcasing what this is actually going to look like in real life and all these cool light features that will make the garage unrecognizable. I'm just worried were going to be saddled with an even more prominent eyesore.
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Wish they could have used high quality pictures.
Me too.

From what I see here it's hideous, perhaps as hideous as what's there now. Well maybe not worse than a rusted steel & brick garage... but close.
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I'm not worried at all. Not even a little bit. Even if it's as blurry as in the renders... I'll be thrilled.
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I really like the look of the top portion, but whatever it looks like they're doing to the garage looks horrible. It looks like they're just going to throw coloured chicken wire over the disgusting brown brick that is there now, and by doing so they don't even cover up the brown brick. You still see it.

If they want to sway me I need better renders showcasing what this is actually going to look like in real life and all these cool light features that will make the garage unrecognizable. I'm just worried were going to be saddled with an even more prominent eyesore.
I really think these are just low quality initial renders

another example:



turned into this:



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I realize these are just preliminary renders. I love the concept of the proposal and I love the top portion. I'm just not too convinced of the overall product (especially the garage portion) at this time. Once some higher quality renders are made public, I will be able to judge this project.

I am in love with the concept and what the developer is trying to achieve, they just need to convince me it will look good!
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I love the entrance area from Harbour Drive, I don't mind the hotel portion but I think there's a but to much colour going on there, and I don't mind the garage portion in some images. I'd like to know more about the screening and what the can do, on page 8 the picture of the garage in the bottom corner looks interesting.
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I'm definitely not a fan of the multi-colored facade on this project. I think it worked well on Star of the Sea and Bennett House but not with the scale of this building.

I wish they had opted for a colonial-style re-clad with some modern curtain wall glazing.

This colored chicken wire seems like a real cheap way out.
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What garbage renderings - I don't see why Philip Pratt and Sonco are using architectural rendering software from the 1980s. This kind of quality work would fail you out of architecture school. How embarrassing...

I think the design is fine, however, the coloration of the Harbour Drive facade is definitely excessive.

But a colonial style re-clad? C'mon. That's the worst kind of way of "respecting heritage". If it never was a colonial building, then it shouldn't have a faux-colonial cladding.

We're in the 21st century - it's time to build architecture in tune with the era. With that said, I don't think our era is as colourful as this design suggests...
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Reading that post was like watching a tennis match. Right, left, right, left, right left. I love it.

It is a pity the renderings are so bad. Fortis Place-quality renderings should be the norm these days.

But... they don't have the final design yet, I'm sure. So they probably don't want to show too much detail yet.
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Oh - no, it would be way too premature to see that level of detail in concept renderings. It's not the level of detail I'm annoyed by - it's the quality and execution. It's the ultimate pet-peeve when I see cartoonish renderings.

To be fair, the renderings for Fortis were just ok

You should see some of the stuff done my students at my school - phew - they're better than photographs.
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Better than the Fortis ones? Can you share one? I thought the Fortis ones were photo quality. In the main highrise thread, one guy even commented that he got confused because he thought the renderings showed the finished structure:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=201219

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Haha it's fantastic for St.John's development standards - I'll dig up some renderings later and post them!
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It might just be the renderings, but I not a big fan of this design. Prove me wrong, APP!
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