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Old Posted Sep 16, 2014, 10:54 AM
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Illitch probably now sees the value in preserving Park Avenue (or rather the flack he'll get for not preserving it) but they aren't going to include it with the overall design and current construction. I think they might even unload it off to a different developer and it'll fall into "spinoff" development.

The renderings weren't particularly high res (and oddly cropped), but from what I can tell, the walls, at least on the north side, were labeled as buff stone. More info is likely to come out Thursday, I'm sure.
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Whatever they do with it, it'll have to be redeveloped along with the construction of the arena. Because there is absolutely no way they open up the arena and adjacent properties and have an abandoned building literally looming over the superblock.
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Those sort of juxtapositions aren't entirely foreign to Detroit. But yea, I don't think it would be too much time until someone takes on the building and reuses it. Either way, I'm not too worried about it as long as it isn't demolished.
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Zoning mumbo jumbo details.

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Summary of Planned Development (PD) Rezoning Submission

Reason for Rezoning: Although the existing B4 zoning permits stadiums and arenas as a conditional use, City Council conditioned its approval of the transfer of certain city-owned land in the Catalyst Development Area to the DDA upon the Developer pursuing an appropriate re-zoning for the Detroit Events Center (DEC). This rezoning will require City Council’s approval and afford Council further involvement in the progression of the development.

Rezoning the property to a PD classification meets this requirement and allows further input from city officials, residents and other interested parties. Additionally, building a world-class, “deconstructed” arena/events center surrounded by a concurrently constructed mixed-use neighborhood is best achieved through a specifically-tailored zoning scheme that allows for flexibility in certain zoning standards, particularly those relating to storefront elevations, signs, parking and the permitted mix of uses.

Project Overview: A mixed-use neighborhood anchored by an approximately 20,000-seat event center/arena that will be the new home to the Detroit Red Wings, as well as other entertainment, community and sporting events.

The DEC is a “deconstructed” arena where many of the elements of a professional sports arena are located in freestanding buildings with other retail and office uses, rather than being limited to the arena proper. The DEC is connected to these buildings at ground level by a glass-enclosed street and above by walkways.

Other uses within the DEC include offices and retail stores, including the Red Wings’ offices and team store, restaurants, apartments, townhouses, public outdoor gathering spaces, and an approximately 1,200-space parking structure.

The drawings and other documents submitted in support of this rezoning application provide additional information regarding the proposed uses, site design, building elevations, landscaping and signs.

Key Features
  • Event Center / Arena Footprint: Approximately 785,000 square feet; 12.37 acres.

  • Boundaries: Woodward Avenue on the east, Henry Street on the south, Clifford Street on the west, and Sproat Street on the north.

  • Primary Entrances: Woodward Ave. / Sproat St. (northeast); Woodward Ave. / Henry St. (southeast); Henry St. (southwest).

  • Permanent Street Vacations: A permanent vacation of Park Avenue between Henry and Sproat and Sibley Street between Clifford and Woodward Avenue will make way for pedestrian traffic and avoid creating an unfriendly, impenetrable superblock. These pedestrian ways also enhance pedestrian circulation and create desirable sight lines.

  • Piazza: The central gathering space for pre-event concerts as well as smaller events and festivals. It will remain open to the public when there is not an event, and may be a ticketed venue for separately programmed events. An open pavement concept will be framed with trees at the east, west, and southern ends. Special features such as sculptural elements, light features and/or fountains will activate the space along with a temporary stage and projection screen to support programmed events.

  • Furnishings: Moveable furnishings such as café tables and chairs will be used in sidewalk café zones and along the edges of the Piazza. Fixed benches will be incorporated in convenient locations along with bike racks for cyclists. Flagpoles will also be installed at the Woodward Ave. / Sproat St. entrance.

  • Via: The glass enclosure that will connect the adjacent buildings to the event center/arena as part of the “deconstructed” design. This area will be generally open to the public during the hours of operation of the adjoining buildings; however access will be limited during events to event participants.

  • Seating for Event Center / Arena: Approximately 20,000.

  • Bowl of Arena / Event Center: The bottom elevation of the bowl is approximately 40 feet below grade; the bowl only rises about 75 feet above grade, the height of an eight story building.

  • Practice Rink: It’s below-grade and approximately 37,300 square feet.

  • Parking: One parking structure with approximately 1,200 parking spaces is being proposed. This new structure will be five stories above ground and one below.

  • Transit: An M-1 RAIL Streetcar station is planned to be located at the northeast entrance. Taxis will be staged along Henry St. and Park Ave. Courtesy shuttles will be encouraged to stage along Clifford St.

  • Residential: Approximately 184 units of residential with 16 planned townhouse units and 168 loft-style and apartment units.
    - 56 are efficiency units (lofts) of 690 sf each;
    - 20 are efficiency units (studios) of 475 sf each;
    - 8 are 1-bedroom units of 960 sf each;
    - 64 are 1-bedroom units of 710 sf each;
    - 20 are 2-bedroom units of 970 sf each;
    - 16 are townhouses of 1,365 sf each.

  • Authorized & Prohibited Uses: The following are examples of the types of uses that will and will not be permitted within the DEC.

    -Authorized: Dry-cleaning establishment, brewpub, residential, hotel, exhibition hall, offices for professional or medical, health club, restaurant, retail, sports arena.

    -Unauthorized: Pawn shop, warehouse operations, businesses that involve firearms or hazardous materials, bail bondsman services, topless club, alcohol/drug rehabilitation clinics, psychic or tarot card reading businesses.
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Bonus sneak peek into the glass enclosed area.


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Old Posted Sep 17, 2014, 7:54 AM
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great new arena TOP 10
Tigers have very good stadium
Lions nice domed stadium
plus the light rail !!
anybody seen how bad the new Atlanta braves stadium is?
bad owners in Atlanta , good owners in Detroit.
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More quality renderings courtesy the Detroit Free Press:













It looks like a misshapen hard-boiled egg. lol
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2014, 8:30 AM
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Seems like there's three different programs to render this thing. Each iteration seems to make the stadium look more egg-shaped.

But what I really like about this project is how it seems like a natural fit into the area. The Brush Park condos are really starting to look under-dense now.
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Here are some elevations that look a little less like rough drafts. Still traces of Park Avenue's outline.
















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A many number of containers have arrived at the site with groundbreaking scheduled in one week from today.


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Expect a showy ground breaking ceremony this Thursday. It's expected to be an hour long.


All photos by Steve Neavling via Motor City Muckraker.


















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nice update and photos

Is there a practice rink ?
is it underground?
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Yep, it will be.
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A little history on the vacant hotels and area adjacent to the future arena.

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For anyone in the Fox Sports Detroit market (which includes all of Michigan and some parts of Ohio and Indiana), the channel will be televising the ground breaking ceremony start at 1:30 PM. It will also be streamed online.

http://www.foxsports.com/detroit/sto...hursday-092414
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Red Wings, officials celebrate groundbreaking of arena, Detroit District
By Bill Shea. Crain's Detroit Business. September 25, 2014.



Under an unusually warm late September sun, construction of the future home of the Detroit Red Wings got underway this afternoon with a ceremonial groundbreaking at the venue’s Woodward Avenue and Fisher Freeway location.

Inside an elaborate temporary arena-like area built from shipping containers, and in front of several hundred dignitaries, media and employees of the Red Wings and sibling companies, a traditional shovel-turning by Gov. Rick Snyder, Mayor Mike Duggan, Detroit City Council President Pro-Tem George Cushingberry and Ilitch Holdings Inc. President and CEO Christopher Ilitch launched the $650 million project, which also includes plans for a 45-block entertainment district.

The ceremony included thanks and congratulations, prayers by local clergy, and a performance of Eminem’s “Lose Yourself” by Larry Callahan & Selected of God choir.

Site prep and demolition work is scheduled for this fall, with heavy earth-moving to begin in the spring.

The ring of shipping containers, which were festooned with imagery for the event, will be used throughout the project as part of an “itinerant public art exhibition,” the Ilitches said in materials provided for the event.

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Elevation plans released.



East side.



West side.



South side.



North side.



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Its too bad that the project could not have had some larger buildings. Should be good for Detroit.
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They specifically designed the buildings to be mid-rises so that they wouldn't appear too overwhelming in stature.
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Also, I think for most development outside of downtown, it's limited to a height of 80 feet. That gives room for only several floors. Of course, Illitch wouldn't have any problem requesting to change the zoning to allow something taller but most developers seem pretty content with this height limit.
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Also, I think for most development outside of downtown, it's limited to a height of 80 feet. That gives room for only several floors. Of course, Illitch wouldn't have any problem requesting to change the zoning to allow something taller but most developers seem pretty content with this height limit.
May I ask why the height restriction that low?
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