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Northern Manhattan rail yard eyed for housing, tech

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A little more than a month after Mayor Bill de Blasio announced an ambitious (and surely expensive) plan to build 70,000 apartments on top of the Sunnyside Yard in Queens, a Manhattan councilman is eyeing another active rail yard for housing construction.
Councilman Ydanis Rodriguez proposed Sunday to rezone a 100-acre "manufacturing area" in the northern Manhattan neighborhood of Inwood and transform it into a "technology community," complete with residential, commercial and retail development.

He would put most of the housing above the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's 207th Street rail yard.

Decking over an active rail yard is an expensive proposition; at Hudson Yards in western Manhattan, it is costing $700 million. But in an interview with Crain's Monday, Mr. Rodriguez said some of the expense could be defrayed if the MTA would sell its air rights to the city.

"If the city is able to work with the MTA and build above the rail yard, it will help us to bring more revenue for transportation, and also using the air rights in that location," he said.

Any proposal to build above the 207th Street yard, which is bordered by 10th Avenue to the east, the Harlem River to the west, 207th and 215th streets, would have to go through Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who already dismissed Mr. de Blasio's plan to build housing at Sunnyside Yards.

The mayor's office insists that despite the governor's reticence, it continues to talk to the MTA about Sunnyside. A feasibility study was ordered last month to determine the cost of the massive project. The economics of affordable housing are already challenging without the additional expense of building over an active rail yard, experts say.

The 207th Street yard serves the C, A and No. 1 trains. It also stores cars that are being retired and either scrapped or restored for the New York Transit Museum.

A spokesman for the mayor said of the Inwood proposal, "We applaud [Councilman] Rodriguez' leadership. We look forward to working with his office and the community to bring much-needed affordable housing and economic development opportunities to this vibrant neighborhood."
A spokesman for the MTA declined to comment.

Inwood, perched on the northernmost tip of Manhattan, isn't on Mr. de Blasio's list of neighborhoods to rezone for denser, taller housing. But Mr. Rodriguez is undeterred. In his speech Sunday, which was attended by Kyle Kimball, president of the city's Economic Development Corp., Mr. Rodriguez said he envisions a mixed-use community spearheaded by large institutions like CUNY and New York Presbyterian, and attractive to some of the world's most recognizable tech companies.

"Imagine having our very own marketplace for technological innovations, creating an environment that will attract advanced research and partners such as Google, Apple or Facebook," he said. "Yes! We will make this dream a reality."

Mr. Rodriguez's plan may also encounter opposition from manufacturing and industrial businesses, which are increasingly feeling pinched by Mr. de Blasio's crusade to build 240,000 units of market-rate and affordable housing over the next decade. Many business owners say the mayor's plan, a hotel boom and other commercial ventures is driving up rents and land prices in manufacturing zones.

The councilman said his plan is unlikely to encounter resistance within the proposed area, if only because there are "not many things happening there right now." In addition to the rail yard, it has a beer distributor, a supermarket and a handful of nightlife lounges and restaurants.
"No one has to be displaced from the area," Mr. Rodriguez said. "It can be a win-win situation."
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Isn't this essentially an iteration of the Sherman Creek redevelopment concept which has been around for years?
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As Sunnyside Yards Divides LIC, Real Estate Pros Propose Closing the Gap



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Long Island City is divided, so to speak.

The bustling neighborhood in western Queens has seen a lot of development in the last decade, but portions of it remain split by the sprawling Sunnyside Yards—a holding area for Amtrak, Metropolitan Transportation Authority and New Jersey Transit trains. While talks are early and controversial on proposals to build affordable housing above the tracks, real estate professionals in LIC believe some sort of link between the commercial side and the mixed-use side could help the neighborhood—both in the short term and in the long run.

“There’s an opportunity to make those connections without platforming over the whole thing and building tens of millions of square feet,” said David Dishy, the president of development and acquisition for L+M Development Partners, while speaking on a panel at the LIC Partnership’s annual real estate breakfast today. “I think coming out of [discussions by the city] will be a short-term achievable set of opportunities on the board.”

L+M Development Partners owns 26-14 Jackson Avenue, a 98-unit rental building, between Purves Street and 44th Drive. The building sits just north of the railyard—across it is the 33th Street station for the 7 train. Mr. Dishy said his company has been proactive in looking at short-term ways to bridge the area, including building up portions of the neighborhood bordering Sunnyside Yards.

A lot of the activity in LIC has been focused on the north side of the rail yard where Court Square, home to Citibank and CUNY Law School, and Queens Plaza, home to JetBlue’s corporate offices, have emerged as commercial hubs in the last 10 years. The south SIDE features a slew of factories-turned-office space, but also some of key amenities and institutions including LaGuardia Community College, an ice rink and an indoor paintball course.

Emmes Asset Management owns 47-16 Austell Place between Skillman Avenue and 27th Street—right along the southern portion of the rail yard. Panelist Seble Tareke Williams, the managing director of the New York City Interborough Fund at Emmes, said today that while it’s exciting that one of the city’s largest land parcels is being discussed, getting something rolling might be a long way off.

“It’s extremely complex,” Ms. Williams said. “I would love to say that something will happen in my lifetime. It’s exciting that there’s real conversations happening. [But] it takes time. It is a bit of a divide, but we think it provides some character. It’s literally a five-minute walk down Skillman from us to the 7 train. ”

Mayor Bill de Blasio in his State of the City address earlier this year proposed a Hudson Yards-like platform over the railyard to make it the foundation for a sprawling affordable housing complex. Former Deputy Mayor Dan Doctoroff, who served under former Mayor Michael Bloomberg, last November pitched the idea of building a platform, but with a convention center atop to replace the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center on the Far West Side.

The city’s Economic Development Corporation will announce this spring the winning bid to do a feasibility study of the area. The study will examine current and future rail layouts, whether a platform can be built over them and how infrastructure could be set up, according to the EDC. Examining the area is expected to last about a year.

An audience member raised the question to Mr. Dishy and Ms. Williams on whether their companies have considered or supported foot bridges spanning the yards from the south side to Court Square, which houses a subway station for the E, M, G and 7 lines. Ms. Williams said her firm hasn’t, and that its more focused on making 47-16 Austell Place an attractive building worth crossing the yards for.

“I think generally speaking, the connectivity is a big question,” she said. “We’ve been more micro-focused on making our building attractive enough that people want to be there. And they’re willing to just walk over from Court Square.”
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Key Queens councilman opposes mega-towers near Sunnyside Yards

Jimmy Van Bramer, who serves Western Queens, says his constituents don't want a 50-story building as part of de Blasio's proposed plan to redevelop the rail yard

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Jimmy Van Bramer is the city councilman for the 26th District, serving Long Island City,Astoria, Sunnyside and Woodside. As the majority leader of the council, Van Bramer is the second-highest-ranking member behind the speaker. He is also a key member of the council’s budget negotiating team, which advocates for its funding agenda.

The city is planning to rezone LIC. What's the plan?

Long Island City is the epicenter of growth in Queens, and the administration sees an opportunity. Rather than one-off developments and individual variance requests, the idea is to bring in parts of Northern Boulevard, Queens Plaza and all of Jackson Avenue and some adjoining streets, and have a master plan.

How many units altogether could be built as a result of the rezoning?

Thousands of units of additional housing, and if you allow for 25% to 30% to be affordable, you’re talking about a significant number.

What is the timing?

By mid- to late 2016, they will move to certify. They have to get East New York’s rezoning out of the way, and then Long Island City is next.

What's been the response from your constituents?

People are terrified that we would see 50-story mega-towers dwarfing these low-rise communities. I agree with them on that. I need to have reassurance we’ll never have 40- or 50-story towers anywhere near the Astoria and Sunnyside portions of the yards. It’s also hard to imagine Western Queens’ taking in the number of additional units that would be needed to make the Sunnyside Yards financially feasible. I have doubts about the endeavor.

Tishman Speyer is building three Long Island City towers using 421-a benefits, but providing no affordable housing because of a quirk in the old 421-a plan. Does that frustrate you?

Look, the quirks in the previous legislation in Albany are frustrating. Rob Speyer and Tishman Speyer are folks who have done good things. I appreciate that. On the one remaining lot that they own—the Gotham site adjoining the Department of Health building—they’ll build affordable housing. I have met with Rob, and I am hopeful that we can work that out with them.

Who pays?

The mayor put aside $1 billion for infrastructure improvements for the neighborhoods that will be rezoned. Mayor Bill de Blasio suggested the city should develop thousands of residential units over Sunnyside Yards.

Would you like to become speaker of the council?

You can’t be in leadership or the majority leader without having an interest in the speaker’s role. I look forward to hopefully being re-elected to the City Council for another four years in 2017, and then we’ll see what happens.
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These are the same people who complain that NY housing is too expensive. Unreal.
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Northern Manhattan rail yard eyed for housing, tech

ANDREW J. HAWKINS
MARCH 24, 2015



I've been keeping my eye on that yard for a while now. Too bad it's not transit connected enough to became another office district.
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Study of Hudson Yards-style development eyed for Sunnyside delayed

BY EMILY NONKO
OCT 28, 2016


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The city asked FXFowle Architects, Parsons Brinckerhoff and HR&A Advisors to conduct the study more than one year ago. Although it was due this summer, "the study will not be completed for several more months or even a year from now," Crain’s found out from a source.
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De Blasio’s Sunnyside Yard proposal would cost $16B-$19B: NYC EDC
Roughly 85% of the 180-acre site could be developed, study claims






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Mayor Bill de Blasio’s proposal to deck and develop Sunnyside Yard in Queens could feasibly cover 85 percent of the 180-acre site at a cost ranging from $16 billion to $19 billion, according to a new study published by the New York City Economic Development Corporation.

When the mayor pitched the idea to develop the sprawling rail yard during his second State of the City address in early 2015, critics said it would be too costly to make affordable housing work.

Among the naysayers was Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who floated the idea of building a convention center on the site before later committing to overhaul the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center.

Now de Blasio has a study backing up his grand idea, albeit one from a friendly agency, the EDC, Crain’s reported.

“Sunnyside Yard represents one of our greatest opportunities to invest in the affordable housing, good jobs, open space and public transit western Queens needs,” deputy mayor for housing and economic development Alicia Glen, said in a statement released with the report.

The proposal to develop the rail yard does come with complications that go beyond engineering.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority, Amtrak and New Jersey Transit – none of which is controlled by the city – all use the sprawling rail yard. The EDC study considered three development scenarios. The first would be predominantly residential with up to 24,000 apartments. The second would be a combination of residential, commercial and retail space. The third scenario would have no commercial space, but would include space for cultural or retail tenants that would be attractive to city residents.

It’s unclear, though, what impact the study will have on the mayor’s proposal moving forward. De Blasio is sure to face opposition from local Queens residents who oppose development.


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City study: Massive Queens project is no de Blasio pipe dream
Building a new neighborhood over Sunnyside rail yard is feasible, administration asserts


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A lot to ready through, but I just went through and grabbed a few graphics until I can absorb the study...



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The below, gives further scale.

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Study highlights challenges, potential for Sunnyside Yard development





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Sunnyside Yard, a 180-acre parcel in Queens that has intrigued and eluded developers and planners for nearly a century, has been given a blueprint for growth, but any plan to build on the site would face enormous challenges.

Mayor Bill de Blasio's administration on Monday released a $2.5 million study it commissioned from 11 private consultants to figure out what could be built if the rail yard were to be decked over and primed for development.
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...The consultants sketched out three development possibilities that would yield anywhere from 14,000 to 24,000 housing units, up to 5,300 parking spots and 500,000 to 900,000 square feet of retail. The proposal with the least amount of residential space —14,000 to 19,000 units — would include approximately 5 million square feet of Class A and creative office space.

The designs all call for at least 10 schools, land set aside for mixed-use space, and rent-regulated housing for low- to moderate-income tenants.

Each plan would use at least 20 million square feet of floor area, while preserving between 31 and 52 acres for open space.

And, the authors noted, they are all designed to take into account improvements Amtrak laid out for Sunnyside Yard in its 2014 master plan.
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.....The Regional Plan Association's Chris Jones said the study shows a "financially feasible" pathway to developing Sunnyside Yard, "but there's obviously a lot of really big hurdles that you'd have to get over for any of them."

He said the rail yard has held the ambitions of planners since at least 1929, when a plan was conceived for a giant skyscraper on the site. A rendering of the fleeting goal hangs in his office.

"There's no other location like it left in the city that has that much acreage, that's that close to the Manhattan central business district and that has a number of train lines connected to it," he said in an interview. "In that sense there's nothing else that has the same potential as Sunnyside Yards. But there are few places that have as many of the challenges either, or else it would've been done already."
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This is just a Blasio's dream project and nothing more.
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Every project is a "dream" project at some point. There are years of study and planning before any major project, let alone one of this scale, can get built.
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Sunnyside Yard megaproject may have a master planner



"...Crain’s reports that Practice for Architecture and Urbanism (PAU), the studio founded by former SHoP Architects partner Vishaan Chakrabarti, has been tapped through a request for proposals to conceptualize what the Queens megaproject could look like. PAU declined to comment and the city’s Economic Development Corporation (NYCEDC), who issued the request for proposals in November, told Crain’s that it has not officially designated a team...

...The leading proposal put forth in the study would see the creation of between 18,000 and 24,000 apartments, of which about 30 percent would be earmarked as affordable housing.

That proposal would also create between 13 and 19 schools, 38 and 52 acres of open space, and retail..."
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18-24k units within 180 acres is nice. Quite high density.
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Sunnyside Yard megaproject is no longer just a pipe dream



"The Sunnyside Yard megaproject is no longer just a pipe dream; On Thursday, the city and Amtrak jointly confirmed the news that it had hired Vishaan Chakrabarti’s Practice for Architecture and Urbanism (PAU) as lead consultant to form a master plan for the proposed megadevelopment.

The city and Amtrak also announced the creation of the Sunnyside Yard Steering Committee, which will spend the next 18 months organizing public meetings and workshops to elicit feedback from Queens residents on how best to proceed with the megaproject’s development, and address the needs of local residents.

The steering committee will work in tandem with the group of consultants to formulate a master plan for the development. The approximately 35-member committee is comprised of a variety of local stakeholders and technical experts such as Gail Mellow, the president of LaGuardia Community College, Denise Keehan-Smith, the chair of Queens Community Board 2, and Felix Ciampa, the executive director of the Urban Land Institute of New York. The committee will be co-chaired by Elizabeth Lusskin, the president of the Long Island City Partnership, and Sharon Greenberger, the CEO of the YMCA of Greater New York...

...This new steering committee will use that as a basis for their master plan; many of the details in that plan still remain intact: Decking is possible on 80-85 percent of site, which totals 180 acres of space. This could see the creation of up to 24,000 homes, 19 schools, and 52 acres of public parks...

...The master planning process for this newest iteration of the plan will officially get underway this summer, and the steering committee will meet once every quarter over the 18 month planning process..."
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Sunnyside Yard planning process to launch this summer

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The de Blasio administration and Amtrak will begin crafting a development plan for Sunnyside Yard in Queens this summer, city and Amtrak officials will announce today.

The master planning team will be led by Vishaan Chakrabarti's architecture firm, Practice for Architecture and Urbanism, which was first reported by Crain's in March.

"This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity for civic groups, public officials and residents to create a vision for their borough," Alicia Glen, Housing and Urban Development deputy mayor, said in a statement.

The city has carved out a position within the Economic Development Corp. to oversee the process and announced a steering committee composed of roughly two dozen local and citywide stakeholders to provide input. Last year a city study found that about 80% of the 180-acre yard could be decked over and covered with 24,000 apartments, along with schools, parks and other infrastructure, at a cost of $19 billion. The master planning process is expected to take around two years and will come up with a more specific blueprint of what could be constructed.

The city and Amtrak have signed a letter of intent to formalize their collaboration, a key step because the federal rail operator controls most of the yard and is making a number of upgrades to its infrastructure that could otherwise conflict with the city's aims. While the accord decreases the chances of major obstacles, it does not guarantee a smooth planning process.
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Hudson Yards v2?
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Hudson Yards v2?
It better be.

If this isn't a giant forest of 70 floor towers, it should be labeled a disappointment. This is the perfect location (tons of transit and right next to Midtown) for intense high density.

In some ways it's better located than Hudson Yards (geographically closer to and faster subway/train ride to the Midtown core). But I don't doubt there will be some community pushback.
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