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Serious question: how is this thing going to be ADA compliant? Is there an elevator hidden somewhere? Or does it not have to be since it is "art" and not a building?


Edit: someone asked this above, whoops.
yep, it looks like in this view you are looking down the elevator, which appears to be a curved design of some sort. will be interesting to see more details about the whole thing

and my guess is, since this does appear to be completely open design with no walls or ceiling, that they will have heated floors or something like that to melt any ice or snow that accumulates.. maybe they have some type of surface that prevents slipping if its raining as well.. which i would recommend hah

didnt see this video posted

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Heatherwick's 15 story Vessel . .
is grossly nowhere near as impressive,
as the Eiffel Tower . . duh ! . . of course . .
Ross was foolish to have prophesied such a daunting achievement . .
this dashed-expectations design . .
reminds me of Ingles' gauche birthday-cake building . .
turned upside down . .

the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge Ferris Wheel . .
will probably be a more fun trip . . especially at night . .
with the view of the vast, graceful bridge form, in the foreground, . .
lit, . . with the contrasting, infinitely-black, empty-void of the ocean behind . .
and of course the bay view . . framed in the distance . .
by the magnificent Jersey City-Manhattan-Brooklyn Skyline . .

and for a better view, . . I think I'd also prefer
the nearby observation deck of 30 HY tower . .
Of course, Heatherwick & Ross's showy $150M exercise-hamper is free . .
and maybe this thing will grow on me, somewhat . . perhaps a little . .
if somehow I'd have a ball . . climbing up into it, in the future . .
I can't imagine that happening . . but I'll try it . .

It's a lot of steps to sweep clean . . garbage blowing around . .
and with all of that dead, harsh shiny silvery glass . .
and mostly mediocre architecture surrounding it . .
no impressive falls or fountain water-feature, inside (or outside) to view . .
on a hot 95 degree day in August . . a chilly 30 degree windy day in February . .
rain, etc . . I'd skip it . . Will it be adventurous, or a dead zone chore . .
How about visiting the transit hub ? . .

Ross's bombastic Busby Berkeley basket . .
might be a clunky counterbalance to the Culture-shed . .
and, like the culture shed, it'll never be universally acclaimed . .
as a magnificently attractive visual or architectural form . .
Sure it'll be a big hit when it opens in a year or 2, . . cause it'll be "the new thing" . .
But will that enthusiasm last for 10 years ? . .
I won't say that it won't . . But I will say . .
this HY centerpiece should've been a lot better . .
Better than nothin ? . . no doubt . .
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Old Posted Sep 16, 2016, 1:10 PM
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yes for sure very escher. that was an inspiration. we always like sites with views of course so that was thoughtful and and i like that it has such an active focus. sure its corporate, but not bad for a change. in fact, glancing over heatherwick's other work it appears he upped his game and outdid himself here. it looks like it will be fun to check out and climb around on.
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It looks like the ramp/lockish type structure at the bottom will be the lift.
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I will definitely be climbing to the top primarily to see this spectacular view (below). Don't know where else in the world (let alone "ground level") you can see something like this (especially on such a monumental scale)




Yes, I will be climbing up there many times. I wonder how many people will try and make it to the top only to find they're not in as great a shape as previously thougt... lol

But it will be great to watch the hive of human activity circulating in and around this thing. This is the west side's "times square", without all of the flashy lights and (maybe) the costumed characters, though I'm sure they will have a presence there.




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It looks really cool.

Sadly, I predict that it could be a popular destination for those wishing to jump.
Someone said the same thing to me about the WTC oculus. My answer was that the city if full of destinations for those wishing to jump.





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I’m blown away. For me, the design greatly exceeds the hype.

NYC is full of beautiful views, but unfortunately the chaotic nature of pedestrian traffic often makes it difficult to casually wander the streets and take them in. Everyone walks with a purpose—outside of our parks, you’re basically always on a human conveyor belt.
Yeah, this will be a great "watching" space.




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As for the structure itself, it's interesting but what does it do? The Eifel Tower is huge by Parisian standards, towering over the city, it's a landmark that can be seen. This is buried inside a group of towers. Where can it be seen by except there in the plaza?
That and it's inverted, it doesn't soar. It reminds me more of a children's play house, more than something to be inspired by.

The structure itself will loom at the terminus of the Hudson Blvd & Park. The hordes of tourists from the High Line will feed in as well. Times Square isn't something necessarily visible from a distance, but it's jam packed daily. This will be no different. Anyone who has ever visited the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree around the holidays (itself as iconic as anything in New York) can tell you how iconic this thing can be. Think Rockefeller Christmas tree year 'round.



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This. Is. Fucking. Cool.

I'm very excited to experience this when done.
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It's the ultimate high line...no, it's not the Eiffel Tower by a long shot in terms of obvious soaring impact but with its maze of stairs and floors and an incomparable view going to the top of the surrounding area it's going to be a real cool destination people are going to love. That whole plaza with the great Shed nearby is going to be a wonderful addition to New York... and the best thing is it's for the public to enjoy.
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I am not understanding the black ramps and flat areas at the top. Are these going to be accessible to the public as well?

Also wonder about the fact that the elevator which would be the only way that a disabled or someone who couldn't climb 15 flights of stairs could get to the top can get around other than the landing plateau. Just doesn't seem very accessible to anyone who is not able to make the entire flight of stairs. Unless someone can explain this form of access better.
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I am not understanding the black ramps and flat areas at the top. Are these going to be accessible to the public as well?

Also wonder about the fact that the elevator which would be the only way that a disabled or someone who couldn't climb 15 flights of stairs could get to the top can get around other than the landing plateau. Just doesn't seem very accessible to anyone who is not able to make the entire flight of stairs. Unless someone can explain this form of access better.
The "black ramps" are actually another set of stairs the connect each concentric ring of bronze-clad stairs.

There will be an elevator that runs up a track on the interior that will take people up who are unable/unwilling to take the stairs.
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Will there be any benches or will there be enough space on the steps for a couple to sit down and enjoy the view?

Very excited about this project!
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Very cool, just wish the top was resolved a little differently. The bottom is quite an appropriate entrance while the top feels seemingly cut off
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I am not understanding the black ramps and flat areas at the top. Are these going to be accessible to the public as well?

They will be for Extreme Skateboarding..


Everyone will be happy on the Vessel. There's only the one woman (on the left) who clearly has received some disturbing news on her phone. Not the place to be when you get bad news.


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Also, what's the point for climbing to the top?
Just to be able to say you did it.
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Just to be able to say you did it.
If the guy who wanted to speak to Trump by scaling Trump Tower would of thought things out, he could of:

1) Scaled 432 Park (using those suction cups from hell)

And then

2) Paraglide to Trump tower.

Kill two birds with one stone. You get to the top of 432 Park, and then Trump tower!

o... where talking about the vessel. I see. NV then...
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Besides viewing the surrounding landscape from the top of this thing (and the various levels getting there), I would like to see this view...


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the big question here though...is...will the wessel be nuclear?

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