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  #181  
Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 1:07 AM
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Reilly is a such a D****.. Alderman have far too much power in this city...how the hell does one person just nix something like this...
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 1:08 AM
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By the way, it's really sad news. I hope Reilly can go
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 1:17 AM
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People can dislike the design, but this isn't being killed because of that. It's being killed because it's tall, parking, congestion blah blah blah. How can you live in downtown and stop a project like this? Absolutely silly.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 1:28 AM
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It's always the same common denominator with NIMBYs: traffic.

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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 2:24 AM
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I'm going to approach this from a different angle. We all hate the large amount of parking and blank podiums in these projects. So maybe it's time for developers to do away with the parking? Yes people love parking. But if the neighborhood refuses, the project can either move ahead sans, or die.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 2:26 AM
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Whatever the reason I say good riddance. Shitty design.
     
     
  #187  
Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 2:38 AM
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 2:44 AM
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People are obsessed with traffic. People shouldn't be driving much down there anyway.

I wonder how he would react to a 600 unit TOD development with no or very little parking.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 2:50 AM
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 2:53 AM
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I think this project is Reilly's sacrificial lamb to save face so that he can approve a massive development at Holy Name.

Besides, we get to keep some historic buildings, so not much of a loss
     
     
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I think this project is Reilly's sacrificial lamb to save face so that he can approve a massive development at Holy Name.

Besides, we get to keep some historic buildings, so not much of a loss
Holy Name isn't in Reilly's ward, so this really is all on him. If I were to guess, and of course I could be wrong, I would say wealthy donors who live in his ward persuaded him out of this, per blocked views, etc.

Also, those buildings are doomed. Reilly is still suggesting developing the land, just with something smaller/less dense. They are going to meet their end in the near future.

Last, I'm not trying to call you out or anything. Haha just similarly frustrated as to what someone else had mentioned above; how one person can just block something entirely.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 1:29 PM
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^ Ahh, ok. Ward lines are something I often can't keep track of, with all the corrupt gerrymandering and such.

Still, theses kinds of zoning rejections suck but I will continue to say that there is a bright spot in all of this--it just pushes development pressures further west allowing those lots and 1 story buildings to continue to get developed, as we are already witnessing.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 5:15 PM
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Perfectly fine with this not becoming a thing and instead some beautiful old buildings remaining in downtown.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 6:11 PM
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While I'm glad this particular tower didn't get built, I will be upset if the existing historic building stock gets bulldozed for something shorter and less dense.

Hopefully whatever is built on this parcel ends up incorporating the existing facades. I would be happy with that, even if it means getting a squat 200 - 300 footer instead of a slim and tall 725 ft building in order to appease the crying neighborhood NIMBYs.

Unless we get the worst of both worlds... short and squat, and bulldozed history.

In that case, to Mr. Reilly I say...

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Old Posted Apr 9, 2017, 6:08 AM
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^ Ahh, ok. Ward lines are something I often can't keep track of, with all the corrupt gerrymandering and such.

Still, theses kinds of zoning rejections suck but I will continue to say that there is a bright spot in all of this--it just pushes development pressures further west allowing those lots and 1 story buildings to continue to get developed, as we are already witnessing.
I totally agree. It's crazy too because Holy Name is in Reilly's ward and the parking lot across the street is not (thankfully). Haha
     
     
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Wow, I wasn't a fan of the design, but it's bs for it to just be axed like this.
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Could the developer make a proposal with as-of-right zoning and then amend it using the Neighborhood Opportunity Fund?
     
     
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Could the developer make a proposal with as-of-right zoning and then amend it using the Neighborhood Opportunity Fund?
As of right yes... In terms of the NOF, I don't know. Trying to get extra density was a part of the issue.
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