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Old Posted Apr 17, 2017, 1:11 AM
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It's less of an issue of whether people will want them, and more of a question of (a) whether people will pay the premium needed to make them worthwhile financially, and (b) whether land costs are so high that they require higher densities to pencil.

Of course the third factor is that the zoning doesn't exist anyway.
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Then the distant places should control sprawl too. And we don't need to expand any roads to facilitate waste.
In theory, think of a city like a sandbox. If the city creates a boundary and prohibits growth outside of it, the sand will need to get deeper inside of the boundary. This could work in a city like Houston where there is no zoning to restrict widespread increases in density. Portland is tightly zoned, so the net effect is just a massive arbitrary wealth transfer from people who do not yet own homes to those who do. Very progressive.

Sure, a developer can lobby to have zoning changed, but it takes time, which takes money and influence, and prevents anyone but the richest and most well connected citizens from being able to take advantage of it.
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2017, 6:16 PM
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Agreed that Portland needs to upzone.
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Imagine the growth in the 'Couv if they actually built the highway system and bridges to meet capacity.

The "blow off valve" is to a large degree a joke. Any person today who moves to Vancouver or points north and works in Portland is a masochist.
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Old Posted May 7, 2017, 7:33 PM
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Imagine the growth in the 'Couv if they actually built the highway system and bridges to meet capacity.

The "blow off valve" is to a large degree a joke. Any person today who moves to Vancouver or points north and works in Portland is a masochist.
no one would live in Portland if that happened
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