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Old Posted Jun 1, 2013, 6:57 PM
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Why does this article say "two 8-story midrises"? That's clearly a mistake. The podium looks to be 8 stories.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2013, 7:57 PM
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It looks like there are two 8-story mid-rises and two towers, with no podium like Infinity. But I keep seeing a podium referred to. Not sure.

We should find out before too long as SocketSite reports that site prep will commence in two days.
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So we are calling 8 stories mid-rises now?
     
     
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So we are calling 8 stories mid-rises now?
Eight stories IS a mid-rise.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2013, 11:14 PM
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Call it what you'd like, nopa. I'm far more interested in the fact that it's starting soon.
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2013, 11:44 PM
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Glad to see this thing is finally about to break ground.

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Eight stories IS a mid-rise.
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Photos 6/16/2013

Looks like we'll have some action soon:

Parking lot closed:


Construction fence is going up:


Excavators on site:


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201 Folsom has a name and website: LUMINA

From the press release:

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Tishman Speyer and China Vanke today unveiled LUMINA, San Francisco’s newest large-scale luxury condominium project, located at Main and Folsom Streets. Designed by the award-winning Bernardo Fort-Brescia of Arquitectonica, LUMINA is a community of 655 luxury condominium residences with retail and parking where SOMA meets the waterfront.

LUMINA is the only luxury, large-scale condominium project breaking ground in San Francisco during 2013. Construction is set to begin immediately with the sales center opening in summer of 2014.

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“LUMINA is the next generation Infinity. The design is inspired by the nautical nature of the city by the bay,” said Bernardo Fort-Brescia, principal of Arquitectonica. “The towers’ shapes are like hulls in a shipyard coming together. And the curved glass facades make up tower geometries, separating to create projecting balconies. The towers bypass one another, rising from a sprawling podium rooftop garden to clearing views of the bay and city skyline.”
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2013, 10:37 PM
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This should be in Highrise Construction now. Sponsors are Tishman Speyer and China Vanke, official groundbreaking has occurred and construction has now commenced, and HFF just arranged a $371.7M construction loan via Cornerstone Advisors, the real estate equity arm of MassMutual. This is happening, now.

     
     
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Just like during The Infinity, a buried boat has been discovered during excavation.

This is a much smaller one (23 feet) versus the ship uncovered during excavation for The Infinity (125 feet).
     
     
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Caught from the window of my building yesterday evening - the pile driver has been moving around a lot the past week and they are digging like bat s**t crazy!:



     
     
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Are they still claiming these two will be 43 stories/400 feet and 38 stories/350 feet? Tall buildings for short people.
     
     
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Are they still claiming these two will be 43 stories/400 feet and 38 stories/350 feet? Tall buildings for short people.
Yeah, I was wondering that myself. Aren't floors in residential buildings usually closer to 11 feet?
     
     
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Are they still claiming these two will be 43 stories/400 feet and 38 stories/350 feet? Tall buildings for short people.
Yeah, it seems like these would be more likely to be 450' and 400', rather than 400' and 350'.
     
     
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Yeah, it seems like these would be more likely to be 450' and 400', rather than 400' and 350'.
Aren't the LUMINA towers supposed to be the same height as the Infinity towers, just in the reverse position? It seems it was always meant to be like that, all the way back to the original designs and through the redesigns.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=67546
     
     
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According to the document submitted to the Planning Department (page 44), each residential floor is 9 feet, 8 inches in height (this diagram seems to be of the shorter tower):



It looks like this diagram has 36 main floors, and then 2 mechanical floors. If you only consider the 36 floors, and say they're all exactly 9.67 feet, you get 348 feet. Level 2 is shown as 11.67 feet, so that brings it up to 350 feet, ignoring the extra height on the ground floor.

So, the 350' number must exclude the mechanical penthouse, and probably counts the 0' level as midblock or some place that gives them a few extra feet to work with.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2013, 7:00 AM
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Thanks for digging that up. I'm still a little bit perplexed.

1) These are luxury condos - 9'8" is "acceptable" for ceiling heights, though a straight 10' is a much better selling point (though with cost of concrete, maybe it's not accretive to deal).

2) Even though it's residential, I'd think the slabs are at least 8-10" with a drop ceiling of another ~4-6".

I'm still doubtful of the 350' height to roof, it just doesn't make much sense. Under 400', sure, but only 350' for 38 floors?

That's around 38-55' taken up by concrete slabs and drop ceilings, leaving around 312'-295' for actual ceiling heights in the residences (nevermind that the lobby is probably a good bit higher than the residence floors). Aggressively with these numbers, 8' ceilings? For multimillion dollar residences with floor to ceiling glass windows and vistas of the Bay and City? No no...

Keep in mind that Emporis and SSP list Infinity II at 450 ft (41 stories, 10.97"/fl) and Wiki lists it at 423 ft (10.31"/fl), and all three list Infinity I at 350 ft (37 stories, 9.46"/fl). Either way, none of the numbers add up to anything we can totally trust (discrepancy for II and highly improbable number for I, plus the two towers are identical and should have similar if not the same floor heights).
     
     
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For the Infinity, Tishman advertised, "most homes feature nine-foot ceilings". Looking at these photos of a listing at the Infinity, there are no recessed lights, and there is very little space between the unit's ceiling and the balcony for the unit above.

So, maybe it's 8 inches for the slab, and no drop ceiling? No matter how you slice it, it takes some work to imagine this fitting under 350'.
     
     
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