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Old Posted Mar 17, 2017, 1:42 AM
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They should make this a super tall. Its design warrants the extra height. In other words, it would look good even taller.
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They should make this a super tall. Its design warrants the extra height. In other words, it would look good even taller.
Can't. Here is the adopted height limit zoning map--this site (Parcel F) is zoned for 750 ft so I'm not even sure how it can be approved at 800 ft but the height is to the roof, not the top of unoccupied ornamental elements and also they use floor area ratios and other considerations to fudge a bit sometimes though not to the extent of alllowing any building other than the Saleforce to exceed 1000 ft). Incidentally, the limit on the Salesforce is 1000 ft but, again, that's to the roof not the top of the crown. Generally these limits are most often set based on shaddow studies--a city ordinance bars significant shaddowing of public open spaces, in the case of Salesforce Justin Herman Plaza on the Embarcadero. I'm not sure exactly what the studies showed for Parcel F.


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Old Posted Jul 16, 2017, 5:34 AM
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Any news about Parcel F?

I'm excited to see what tweaks are made to this one as I was already digging the earlier renderings.





https://www.hines.com/properties/tra...-san-francisco
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From the woulda coulda shoulda files:

https://seantaber.myportfolio.com/parcel-f-competition
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2017, 12:13 AM
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Reminds me of Aon tower in Chicago, SF could use something like that. I like it.
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Any news about Parcel F?
Don't be shocked if this project has to wait for the next housing cycle. Rents and condo prices in SF are definitely falling. Seems like 2015 or early 2016 was the peak.




https://www.paragon-re.com/trend/3-r...les-and-a-baby

Developers are becoming hesitant to build new SF projects now because they can't reliably predict rents or selling prices upon completion and are looking to markets that are still appreciating rapidly. Barring a national financial crisis of some sort, I expect the next down cycle to be fairly shallow and brief but still I don't think this project will get started for 2 or 3 years at best.
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Any news about Parcel F?
Hopefully we'll get an update early in the new year:

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Two massive Transbay towers will complete puzzle

Hines and Urban Pacific Development are fine tuning the details of both sites to win city approval of two sites, which are known as Parcel F and Block 4, that will include housing, office, hotel and retail space. Parcel F is at 550 Howard St. while Block 4 is on Howard Street between Beale and Main streets.

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The site makes up an irregular-shaped lot that abuts the future bus ramp flowing into the transit center.

The developers expect the Parcel F proposal to go before the Board of Supervisors for approval early next year.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2018, 5:45 PM
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Core samples are being taken onsite:

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Before the new skyscraper is built! 550 Howard street SF. Its coming!

http://www.thepictaram.club/share/BeBhkAdgobd
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Refined Plans for a New 800-Foot-Tall Transbay Tower Revealed





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Having faced some pushback from Planning early last year, the plans for a 61-story tower to rise up to 800 feet in height upon Transbay Parcel F at 542-550 Howard Street have been newly refined by Pelli Clark Pelli and submitted to the City for review.

The refined design includes 170 condos over a 210-room luxury hotel and 251,000 square feet of office space, with over 9,000 square feet of retail across the development’s ground floors and a through-block pedestrian passageway and open space from Howard to Natoma.

The proposed tower, which would become the fourth tallest in San Francisco, includes a public elevator to the adjacent Transbay Transit Center Rooftop Park via a fifth-floor sky bridge.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2018, 4:45 PM
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It looks like the base was tweaked a lot on the south side, but I was expecting more dramatic changes to the massing and crown. Oh well.
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Looks "streamline"/Deco to me--I like it.
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Is there any word on which luxury hotel will be moving in?
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For those curious like me, I made some side-by-side comparisons (before on left, after on right). The setbacks are lower and don't "wrap" around the building like before, and the base is quite different.




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Is there any word on which luxury hotel will be moving in?
Nothing yet. The official press release says:

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At first glance it does not look too different. But as you start to zoom in, you do notice significant changes. Not the most dazzling redesign, but I do like it. 800 footer! Now hope it gets approved and gets built. Should be done by........2025?!
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Old Posted Feb 1, 2018, 4:16 PM
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ok. One more thing.... is this thing box/square shaped or what. The north side looks a lot " thinner" than the south/mini bay bridge side. anyone know? just wondering
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Old Posted Feb 1, 2018, 4:21 PM
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Thanks minesweeper. Side by side, you're definitely able to tell the differences more. The new crown is a little more neo art deco. I do like that the setback section is lower. Is there a setback on the other side as well? Not sure how I feel about the new base on the Howard St side. Would need to see more renderings.
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I appreciate the curves on the base from the original rendering more, as well as the verticalness of the facade (left side of the original rendering's base shot). Regardless, beauty.
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For those curious like me, I made some side-by-side comparisons ...
thanks for doing that, minesweeper!

for me, the TTC-facing side of the base lost some character, and that's too bad, since I think the little plaza area connecting the building with the transit center is important. but higher-up, I like that the setbacks don't wrap - it made the NE view look too much like two incongruous sections of building.

overall, I still lean positive on this one's looks.
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Will this be right next to Parcel F??
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranc...-proposed.html
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Will this be right next to Parcel F??
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranc...-proposed.html
Yes, just east.
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