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Old Posted Jun 24, 2017, 5:32 PM
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There was also discussion of moving it to "This Is The Place" State Park.

I would love to see this happen. Bonneville Park would be about the same size as Sugar House Park.

Of the six courses that the city runs Bonneville is probably the last that the city would remove. It's one of the most popular and considered one of the best in the state.

Nibley(2700 s 700e), Forest Dale(Sugarhouse), Glendale, and Rose Park would all definitely be removed first. Mountain Dell (Parley's canyon) is the only course that may be given a higher priority than Bonneville.
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Just curious, why did Korean Air pay for the building? Are they now doing property development or are they using it as corporate offices and then renting out the rest of the building?
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Korean's entities as major property developers in Los Angeles would be a big under statement. Just a couple of thoughts on the Korean influence here. In Central and Downtown Los Angeles, Korean capital is huge. It permeates almost everything, and is second only to the Anglo and Latin cultures. On my 4 to 5 day a week power walks through the different neighborhoods of Central & Downtown Los Angeles, I encounter as many or more fellow Korean exercise enthusiasts as any ethnicity. Same with the gym. One of Central and Downtown Los Angeles biggest saving graces, is the huge and constant infusion of Korean Capital. Many neighborhoods, including my own are experiencing major comebacks because of Korean gentrification. In my side job of property management, my bosses have always been Korean, and I absolutely love working for them. In fact, later today I will have a house full of my extended Korean family, here on their semi annual sojourn. They live for now in Seoul, but own property in Houston, Hawaii, and L.A. As with many nations, Los Angeles is the go to capital for those who can afford it, and want a safe haven for their money and also a home to escape to, if troubled times arrive in their homeland. Angelino's often jest that Los Angeles is South Korea's second capital.
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When will Salt Lake ever get anything half as cool as this?
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When will Salt Lake ever get anything half as cool as this?
If by "cool" you mean "tall", then probably not in our lifetimes.

Salt Lake doesn't need a 1,000 ft. skyscraper though.
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If by "cool" you mean "tall", then probably not in our lifetimes.

Salt Lake doesn't need a 1,000 ft. skyscraper though.
True, we do not need a "1,000 ft". skyscraper, we need better looking towers with great architecture and design than what we have now.
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If by "cool" you mean "tall", then probably not in our lifetimes.

Salt Lake doesn't need a 1,000 ft. skyscraper though.
Tall, yes, but also better design and a light show.
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Just curious, why did Korean Air pay for the building? Are they now doing property development or are they using it as corporate offices and then renting out the rest of the building?
Korean Air owned the original hotel that was demolished and came up with the idea to redevelop it as a mixed use property with hotel/office/retail. Apparently, the building was built by the Hanjin Group (parent company of Korean Air), and especially the CEO of the Hanjin Group, who considers L.A. to be his second home. (Echoing what delts said about L.A. and Koreans.)

Apparently, it will also be home to Korean Air offices.

S. Korea tycoon has high hopes for L.A. hotel project
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If by "cool" you mean "tall", then probably not in our lifetimes.

Salt Lake doesn't need a 1,000 ft. skyscraper though.
Half as cool would be a 500 footer. We'll get that in our lifetime (I'm assuming you aren't 70 or older)
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Half as cool would be a 500 footer. We'll get that in our lifetime (I'm assuming you aren't 70 40 or older)
I fixed it for you.
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I think we'll get a 500-footer relatively soon. Hopefully the future CCH, or phase 2 of block 66. If we're lucky, maybe both of them!

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True, we do not need a "1,000 ft". skyscraper, we need better looking towers with great architecture and deign than what we have now.
I don't think there's been anything wrong with the design of our buildings lately. In fact I would say 222 South Main, The Regent, and 99 West are 3 of our most architecturally pleasing skyscrapers, if not THE 3 best. They just lack the height to fully show off their architecture. 111 South Main is a bit on the plain side, but it's not bad, and has amazing street engagement.

I'll have faith we'll get a really good design for our future tallest until proven otherwise.
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I think we'll get a 500-footer relatively soon. Hopefully the future CCH, or phase 2 of block 66. If we're lucky, maybe both of them!



I don't think there's been anything wrong with the design of our buildings lately. In fact I would say 222 South Main, The Regent, and 99 West are 3 of our most architecturally pleasing skyscrapers, if not THE 3 best. They just lack the height to fully show off their architecture. 111 South Main is a bit on the plain side, but it's not bad, and has amazing street engagement.

I'll have faith we'll get a really good design for our future tallest until proven otherwise.
True, I agree with you on they need a bit more height. I also think One Utah Center would have looked really nice if it were at least 10 more floors in height to show off the top section which adds a different look to the skyline other than flat tops...
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Yeah, One Utah Center is good as well.

One positive I am willing to take from the lack of true height in Salt Lake's downtown is that if a future, taller skyscraper building boom does come to Salt Lake, there is a chance that we could have a much more aesthetically pleasing skyline than a lot of other mid-sized cities in the U.S. by virtue of not being so dominated by boxy 60s and 70s architecture.
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The one tower that would've looked better had it been taller is the Gateway Tower West - or whatever it's called now.

Too stubby at its current height.

But imagine...
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That is a thought I have often shared. One or two like the Key Bank Tower are great as an example of the era, but I wouldn't want a skyline full of them. Though, some pretty cool reclads have been accomplished, like the Zion's Bank redo. Also, the remake of the street engagement on Key Bank went a long way in improving the base.

I agree with Comrade about the Westgate Tower. In fact, I wouldn't even mind a similar but taller version being built again.


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Yeah, One Utah Center is good as well.

One positive I am willing to take from the lack of true height in Salt Lake's downtown is that if a future, taller skyscraper building boom does come to Salt Lake, there is a chance that we could have a much more aesthetically pleasing skyline than a lot of other mid-sized cities in the U.S. by virtue of not being so dominated by boxy 60s and 70s architecture.
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That is a thought I have often shared. One or two like the Key Bank Tower are great as an example of the era, but I wouldn't want a skyline full of them. Though, some pretty cool reclads have been accomplished, like the Zion's Bank redo. Also, the remake of the street engagement on Key Bank went a long way in improving the base.

I agree with Comrade about the Westgate Tower. In fact, I wouldn't even mind a similar but taller version being built again.
I wish they wouldn't have torn down the Key Bank tower. But I agree with both you and Comrade.

As for the Utah one Center...that building always reminded me of Town Pavilian (Kansas City) and Albuquerque Plaza (Albuquerque)
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I wasn't a big fan of the old Key Bank Tower. Just me probably, but it reminded me of something from 70's/80's downtown Vegas. I would have wanted a re-clad on that one.

Except for the north stairwell, I'm all for them leaving the COB as is. I'd like to see them change those north stairwell openings to match the south end.

When they do finally get around to building the CCH, I hope it's skin and style is something along the line of the new Wilshire Grand or Marriott CCH here in L.A.
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I wasn't a big fan of the old Key Bank Tower. Just me probably, but it reminded me of something from 70's/80's downtown Vegas. I would have wanted a re-clad on that one.

Except for the north stairwell, I'm all for them leaving the COB as is. I'd like to see them change those north stairwell openings to match the south end.

When they do finally get around to building the CCH, I hope it's skin and style is something along the line of the new Wilshire Grand or Marriott CCH here in L.A.
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I'm glad they blew up the Key Bank tower honestly. One of the ugliest, boxiest buildings in our skyline - utterly replaceable. I have a strong distaste for that bland, mid/late 20th-century architecture. Anything coming out of City Creek is a massive improvement over that.
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