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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 1:44 PM
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It almost looks like it mimics the LSD bridgehouses there. Giant silver versions that is.....
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Why on earth would an architect be making design changes to a condo tower next door built many years ago?

If anything, direct the question to Magellan as to why they're not building a bustle. Presumably they and the architect decided a slim unadorned tower was best here. Then the question really is whether the neighboring condo association could be convinced to spend money to beautify their ugly wall, for the benefit of the new tower, and the neighborhood, and themselves. In fact, this render can work to put a little bit of pressure on the Chandler; any miscellaneous opposition they have to the new project could be alleviated by Magellan offering to kick in some money for ivy (or a mural of a sailboat?) to de-uglify their building. (I'm assuming there's no existing obligation for Magellan to address the blank wall.)
Huh? Nobody was suggesting bkl should be making design changes to the chandler. My comment was about the design ignoring it's context and not utilizing the party wall.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 2:26 PM
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From the images it appears that all but the highest floors of the 80 story building will have balconies.

If that's the case, would that mean this building will have the highest balconies in Chicago?
There is a room in the John Hancock Observation Deck next to the tilt attraction which has screens in place of window panes, and this room is technically a balcony making it the highest in not only Chicago, but all of North America.
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There is a room in the John Hancock Observation Deck next to the tilt attraction which has screens in place of window panes, and this room is technically a balcony making it the highest in not only Chicago, but all of North America.
Vista will have balconies all the way to the top on the east and west ends which I assume would make it's penthouse the highest
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^^^ Thanks for the info
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 2:58 PM
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 7:22 PM
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From the images it appears that all but the highest floors of the 80 story building will have balconies.

If that's the case, would that mean this building will have the highest balconies in Chicago?
I would imagine that the Aqua would still top this one being that balconies go all the way to the top on that one, but it will be close.

People also pointed out the Vista as well being much taller
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 7:25 PM
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Now we know which building bKL has been spending all its time on.

This one is a stunner.
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One can only hope this drives Related to do something even more amazing on the old Spire site!! I like this BKL design a lot.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 9:45 PM
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I'm guessing this tower will be all condo?

Hence wait till the Vista Tower gets close to selling out before marketing these
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 9:52 PM
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Yea, great building and great design. Fits into the skyline very well. bKL has outdone themselves. Given that it's a far ways away from being realized, I'm hoping the design doesn't change too much. Given what's happened with so many proposals in Chicago, height chop and VE'ing seems pretty likely, no?
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I'm guessing this tower will be all condo?

Hence wait till the Vista Tower gets close to selling out before marketing these
As will the tower to the south along LSD. The 40-story will be rental.
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Huh? Nobody was suggesting bkl should be making design changes to the chandler. My comment was about the design ignoring it's context and not utilizing the party wall.
That's even more unrealistic. It would be like telling Cesar Pelli's firm to make Wolf Point reflect the context of the Apparel Mart. (Coincidentally, it solved its blank wall problems by punching out hundreds of windows.) Here, the architect was tasked with designing a trophy tower at the mouth of the river, the final piece of LSE, likely destined for the marketing name of "300 North Lake Shore Drive", as the last skyscraper that will ever be built along the lake near downtown (other than NWU selling its land and a theoretical teardown of the W or 540), so the obligation to pay homage to a blank wall on a squat ten year old condo nearby that looks like it was designed in the front seat of an impala while waiting for cheesecake factory takeout in the woodfield mall parking lot is rather close to zero. Sure, there would be ways to include a decent bustle or base or podium in the design, but they decided the best impact would be a slender, unadorned design. Keep in mind that marketing brochures and other imagery of the building trying to sell 7 and 8 figure condo units can present it as a standalone jewel this way rather than as just another tower glued onto neighborhood buildings. The far easier solution is a mural or ivy or punching out windows in the old building.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2017, 1:53 AM
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No one said pay homage to a blank wall. They said cover up the wall that was intentionally left blank because something else was going to be built up against it.
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That's even more unrealistic. It would be like telling Cesar Pelli's firm to make Wolf Point reflect the context of the Apparel Mart. (Coincidentally, it solved its blank wall problems by punching out hundreds of windows.) Here, the architect was tasked with designing a trophy tower at the mouth of the river, the final piece of LSE, likely destined for the marketing name of "300 North Lake Shore Drive", as the last skyscraper that will ever be built along the lake near downtown (other than NWU selling its land and a theoretical teardown of the W or 540), so the obligation to pay homage to a blank wall on a squat ten year old condo nearby that looks like it was designed in the front seat of an impala while waiting for cheesecake factory takeout in the woodfield mall parking lot is rather close to zero. Sure, there would be ways to include a decent bustle or base or podium in the design, but they decided the best impact would be a slender, unadorned design. Keep in mind that marketing brochures and other imagery of the building trying to sell 7 and 8 figure condo units can present it as a standalone jewel this way rather than as just another tower glued onto neighborhood buildings. The far easier solution is a mural or ivy or punching out windows in the old building.
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Just get someone to paint a mural on it. Boom, art
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2017, 1:56 PM
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+1 mural art

Mod can we please add chicago tag to this?
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2017, 4:38 PM
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Is it out of the realm of possibility that they might be planning to squeeze a mid-rise building in between this and The Chandler's party wall someday down the line?
There's actually a tiny separate lot between these two buildings. I checked the zoning because I thought it was strange also. See below:



Source: https://gisapps.cityofchicago.org/ZoningMapWeb
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2017, 6:26 AM
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Very nice tower!!
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