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Old Posted Oct 31, 2017, 8:13 PM
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Why isn't Restaurant Row a good option? I keep reading the sequence of posts and don't see any actual reasons to change it.

Restaurant Row is both a very common term and a very general term for a collection of restaurants. If the object is to come up with a distinctive name for the area then we need something that isn't also referring to streets in Elmwood Park or Wheeling.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2017, 8:22 PM
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There's also Smyth, although it's a block north toward Lake which I suppose makes it debatable since it's not *on* Randolph, but it has two stars.

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Yep, I just thought it would be ironic to have a stretch called Michelin Mile without an actual Michelin Starred Restaurant ON randolph; though as someone pointed out, there are quite a few Bib Gourmand restaurants on and near randolph.
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Why isn't Restaurant Row a good option? I keep reading the sequence of posts and don't see any actual reasons to change it.

If anything, since everything is kind of spreading between Randolph and Fulton along with many of the cross streets, linear names (mile, row, way) probably aren't great in the literal sense.

Michelin Mile in particular is not good though. Too similar to Magnificent Mile phonetically. Also, no need to incorporate a brand name, sounds sponsored. To that end we would eventually end up with Randolph called the McDonalds Mile.
I think we were just brainstorming names for fun no real purpose. Restaurant Row is fine though now it's got me thinking that perhaps branding the district with a non-generic name and marketing it toward culinary tourists might actually be a pretty good idea.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2017, 9:08 PM
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Not really related to this proposal, but: I feel a meme rumbling into the west loop.

1940s --> "Magnificent Mile"
2010s --> "Cultural Mile"
2018 --> "Culinary Mile" ?

Or are there any better ones out there? This came to me while walking down Sangamon after eating really, really well.
I don't see any need for cheesy branding. It is a, rather than the, restaurant row.
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I don't see any need for cheesy branding. It is a, rather than the, restaurant row.
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I don't see any need for cheesy branding. It is a, rather than the, restaurant row.
Naw, can't you just see it now? "RESTAURANT ROW" in giant neo-industrial neon letters ten feet tall on a "gateway" sign over Randolph??? That's exactly what we need so all the "turists" know where to get their snack on!
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There's a weird kind of elitism on this forum that I have to say is very entertaining.
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Naw, can't you just see it now? "RESTAURANT ROW" in giant neo-industrial neon letters ten feet tall on a "gateway" sign over Randolph??? That's exactly what we need so all the "turists" know where to get their snack on!


And Soho House has invested way too much money in that building for the cool kids to have to pick up and move to a new neighborhood...

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What's weird about not wanting to turn interesting neighborhoods into theme parks for tourists?
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Nothing really new -- or surprising -- about that.
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Welp...before they chop all the height off or cancel the project all together, lets appreciate what could of been.









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It is too tall. Just looking at the proposal objectively, there is no basis for anything so tall there. There is no shortage of land to develop around the core of the city that can house those potential residents - in fact there are plenty of competing developments that need those people.
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It is too tall. Just looking at the proposal objectively, there is no basis for anything so tall there. There is no shortage of land to develop around the core of the city that can house those potential residents - in fact there are plenty of competing developments that need those people.
Isn’t the fact that the developer is interested in building so tall the strongest bit of evidence that there is, indeed, some basis for something so tall? If you’re interested in making the argument that the harm it could do to the neighborhood is great enough that it overwhelms the benefits, that’s fine, make that argument. But it is very costly to build this high - so if the developer is proposing such a development, that’s a sign that there’s really intense demand in this area.
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Isn’t the fact that the developer is interested in building so tall the strongest bit of evidence that there is, indeed, some basis for something so tall? If you’re interested in making the argument that the harm it could do to the neighborhood is great enough that it overwhelms the benefits, that’s fine, make that argument. But it is very costly to build this high - so if the developer is proposing such a development, that’s a sign that there’s really intense demand in this area.
I am sure a developer seeing unobstructed views in every direction could be profitable. That isn't the point. This isn't how well-designed cities are planned or what is necessarily best for the entire urban core.

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I am sure a developer seeing unobstructed views in every direction could be profitable. That isn't the point. This isn't how well-designed cities are planned or what is necessarily best for the entire urban core.
I have no problem with trying to control development to maintain the character of a neighborhood. But we should also recognize the costs of doing so, and consider whether it’s worth it. Your original statement that there is no shortage of land and competing developments trivializes those trade offs and suggests that we can limit development in high-demand areas at little or no cost to the city overall, as if those other parcels are experiencing the same demand but for some reason aren’t being developed. They’re not.
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In other news, water is wet.

This time I kind of agree with them, though. I like the idea of the West Loop as a midrise neighborhood; Chicago doesn't have another one.

At least restrict tall buildings to TODs around CTA stations, so the West Side ends up like the Yonge Street corridor in Toronto (yes, I realize this development would probably be just that around the Morgan L, but you need to establish the zoning regime first).
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In other news, water is wet.

This time I kind of agree with them, though. I like the idea of the West Loop as a midrise neighborhood; Chicago doesn't have another one.

At least restrict tall buildings to TODs around CTA stations, so the West Side ends up like the Yonge Street corridor in Toronto (yes, I realize this development would probably be just that around the Morgan L, but you need to establish the zoning regime first).
Nvm, answered my own question.
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I am a big fan of tall and slender, but the proportions really seem off to me. I think it would be far more attractive at around 35 stories. I assume that's what the developer is probably shooting for anyway.
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