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Old Posted Apr 14, 2018, 2:44 AM
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There are no openings in the glass for the photographs?
Unfortunately we live in a world where truly open observation decks are a thing of the past. Safety rules these days. How long has the ESB outdoor observatory been caged/glassed in? Got to be at least 30 years, maybe more...
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Unfortunately we live in a world where truly open observation decks are a thing of the past. Safety rules these days. How long has the ESB outdoor observatory been caged/glassed in? Got to be at least 30 years, maybe more...
The WTC outdoor deck wasn't on the edge of the building, so it didn't need glass. But yeah, I would say this definitely needs it. Hanging off the side of a building is enough of a thrill. We don't need people going over.
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Unfortunately we live in a world where truly open observation decks are a thing of the past. Safety rules these days. How long has the ESB outdoor observatory been caged/glassed in? Got to be at least 30 years, maybe more...
The ESB observation deck has always been fenced in.

Edit: I'm going to take that back. Here is a photo from 1935 that shows that it did not originally have a fence. But the first photo is from the 1940s so they put it in pretty early on.

Here is one from 1948, with fencing.
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The ESB observation deck has always been fenced in.

Edit: I'm going to take that back. Here is a photo from 1935 that shows that it did not originally have a fence. But the first photo is from the 1940s so they put it in pretty early on.

Here is one from 1948, with fencing.
Amazing looking at the first photo from the 40's ... as much as NY has evolved, many if not most of the buildings in that view are still there.
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A few pics I took yesterday, more on my Flickr page, BY NYMAN2010:

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My latest video which also shows this tower, BY QUEENSNY121:

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Unfortunately we live in a world where truly open observation decks are a thing of the past. Safety rules these days. How long has the ESB outdoor observatory been caged/glassed in? Got to be at least 30 years, maybe more...
I think the main concern isn't so much people accidentally going over as much as it is suicide. Look at the Golden Gate. They had to install nets under the spans to try and reduce the 20+ person a year jump off of it.
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I think the main concern isn't so much people accidentally going over as much as it is suicide. Look at the Golden Gate. They had to install nets under the spans to try and reduce the 20+ person a year jump off of it.
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On a note about the observation deck I imagine an Italian relative of mine running numbers in Rome to figure out the weight capacity of that thing and sweating bullets hoping he put the decimal points in the right place.
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OMG, it's finally happening . .
the cantilevering observation deck
It sure is a super-wow visual point of interest . .
seems like it'll be perfect . . not only as a sharp architectural accent . .
but also as an event to experience . . cant wait . .

Love the massive eastern wall, slopin' all the way up 30 . .
to the highest tip at the SW corner . .
Hate that BIG's fatty spiral nearby, will be covering up the view
of this landmark beauty . .
30 HY will be a much more attractive structure . .
and Big's monstrosity will be blocking fine views
looking out from 30 HY as well . .
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This looks just TOO COOL .....
Eat your heart out 1WTC observation deck! THIS, \/, outdoors is the way to go when you do this.

The scarcity of people in the renderings below make me wonder.... will there be a limit on how many people could be in the platform at one time. Wouldn't be surprised, but I hope the number is not too small!

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The scarcity of people in the renderings below make me wonder.... will there be a limit on how many people could be in the platform at one time. Wouldn't be surprised, but I hope the number is not too small!
These sort of renderings are never an accurate representation of reality.
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I still think my idea of the Acrophobia Olympics is valid when that deck opens. Just get a bunch of people who have acrophobia, and place them on that glass opening. The last one to make it wins a cookie, and a complementary, all expenses paid trip to the Grand Canyon Skywalk.
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You know what that reminds me of?

When I was in Chicago, I was honestly really freaked to go out on the Ledge, as they call it. I notice a similar theme here, although Willis is taller. The difference, I think, is that at Willis, you're hanging out over the edge. At Hudson Yards, you're still surrounded by people. I don't know. I definitely want to get up there once it opens. I still haven't been to 1WTC. (Making Willis the tallest I've been in).

BTW, Chicago travel advice: 1. Get a fast-pass for Willis. You need it. 2. As awesome as the John Hancock Center is, Tilt!, their answer to the Ledge at Willis, really sucks.
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