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Wakefield Mill owners to open Meech Lake lodge in 2017

By Jacob Serebrin, OBJ Contributor
Published on September 22, 2016




The history of the old O’Brien House will be on display when the Meech Lake property reopens next summer as the Kincora Lodge.

Wakefield Mill Developments has secured a contract with the National Capital Commission that involves $3.9 million in renovations to the property.

The company will then operate it as a 14-room boutique hotel.

“It’s quite a striking property,” says Robert Milling, the president of Wakefield Mills Developments. “It’s perched on the top of an escarpment … [and] has beautiful sightlines of Meech Lake.”

The house, built in 1930, was once used as a conference centre for the federal government but has been abandoned since the late 1980s.

“It goes back to an earlier time of big nature lodges,” says Mr. Milling. “It was a really big thing at the turn of the century.”

Some of the features include 16-foot ceilings, six stone fireplaces and an abundance of natural light. Mr. Milling says there is the potential for dramatic decks wrapping around the building’s exterior.

There are challenges that come with a project like this, Mr. Milling says. Because it’s in a park, there’s an extra level of environmental assessment and because it’s a heritage property, there’s an extra level of heritage design review.

“There’s a lot of oversight, but the oversight generally leads to a better product,” Mr. Milling says. “There’s a lot of talent being put to bear on this.”

Construction on the property is scheduled to start in January or February, and is expected to finish next summer.

Mr. Milling says he expects the new Kincora Lodge to appeal to people who want to celebrate special occasions and people interested in leisure activities in the surrounding Gatineau Park.

“It should be fairly popular with cyclists and cross-country skiers. We will be doing joint offerings with the Wakefield Mill where people can stay one or two nights at one property and one or two nights at another property,” he says.

There will also be meeting space for up to 20 people.

He expects there will also be an opportunity to offer packages with local ski hills and spas.

For Mr. Milling, there’s also something special about reopening the lodge built by industrialist Ambrose O’Brien.

“Back in the early 1900s, he owned the sports franchise that had the highest payroll on the planet, it was called the Renfrew Lumber Kings, so if you can imagine, a small lumbering town in the Ottawa Valley had the highest paid sports team on the globe,” Mr. Milling says.

Mr. O’Brien also founded the National Hockey Association, the predecessor to the National Hockey League, and was the founding owner of the Montreal Canadiens.

“I’m a history buff,” Mr. Milling says. “There will be some interesting stories told when we’re finished with the property.

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Is Gatineau Park really creating a $241 million economic impact?

Vito Pilieci, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 5, 2017 | Last Updated: April 5, 2017 6:54 PM EDT


The National Capital Commission says Gatineau Park is responsible for $241.5 million in annual economic impact and 4,728 jobs in the region.

The statistics were released as part of a new study that was revealed on Tuesday by the NCC.

“Gatineau Park’s contribution to gross domestic product surpasses $241 million per year” and “activities by Gatineau Park visitors generated $184 million in annual expenditures: at restaurants, on sports and recreational equipment, and on shopping,” reads the report entitled “Gatineau Park visitor and economic impact study final report.”

The report was compiled by consultants at Environics Analytics and Nordicity Group Ltd. The NCC spent $122,602 plus HST on the study.

Researchers came to the totals after conducting surveys with around 7,000 people last year. Surveys were conducted on-site at the park, by telephone, as well as online.

By comparison, the Ottawa Senators hockey club is believed to account for $100 million in economic impact in Ottawa, according to a 2014 study. The Rideau Centre is believed to account for around $700 million in spend annually and the City of Ottawa employs around 12,000 people.

If the statistics are to be believed, and some other media organizations reported them as fact, then the economic impact of the park appears substantial. Gatineau Park: A 361-square-kilometre nature preserve that on its own creates thousands of jobs and adds millions and millions of dollars to the economy.

But is that true? The numbers in the NCC-commissioned report are not necessarily false, but how they’ve been presented is questionable. The nearly quarter-billion number trotted out by the NCC is eye-catching and makes for a good story. And that’s the issue. Dig a bit deeper and the numbers become a bit less dazzling.

“It seems far too high,” said Barry Nabatian, a director with market research firm Shore Tanner Associates. “Campers’ fees and day-pass admissions are clearly due to the park. Otherwise, the spending would most likely happen anyway. For example, they may have included the cost of buying lunch/picnic stuff to take to the park, but people have to eat anyway, and therefore such costs should not be considered as economic benefit.”

According to the study, “600,000 people visited Gatineau Park from September 2015 to August 2016” and “expenditures related to visiting Gatineau Park” during that time frame “amounted to approximately $184 million.” To put that into perspective, if we trust the study’s statistics, each of those visitors spent $306.67 visiting Gatineau Park, which seems like pretty expensive picnic-ing. To be fair, the study’s authors said many of the visitors came to the park multiple times over the course of the year, making 2.6 million visits. For those visiting multiple times, that spend would have been spread out.

Things get a little more muddy after dissecting the study’s claim about the park’s impact on gross domestic product (GDP). According to the study’s authors, the GDP impact generated by the park was $241.5 million. However, the impact on the GDP of the national capital region was only $145 million. The remaining $96.5 million was created by the park for Quebec, other Ontario municipalities and other provinces across the country, according to the studies authors. Expenses like airfare, train tickets, hotel stays and the price of items, like, say, new cross-country skis, were all factored into calculating the GDP generated by the park.

Basically, if a person comes to Ottawa to visit a family member and happens to go to the park, the cost of their travel, meals and additional expenses were all factored into the report’s conclusions.

What was missing from the report is the actual amount of spending done by visitors to the park during the study. In an interview with the study’s authors, Nordicity and Environics, it was revealed that park visitors spent a total of $1.87 million on parking, day passes, ski passes and other direct fees associated with visiting Gatineau Park between September 2015 to August 2016. The study’s authors also revealed that the annual operating expenses associated with the park, which includes salaries, upkeep and other spend, is around $7 million. There are a total of 23 full-time employees working at Gatineau Park in a variety of roles, according to the NCC. There are also various volunteers.

So what about the 4,728 jobs number suggested by the report? Well, that person you bought skis from, no matter if you didn’t buy the skis specifically to use in Gatineau Park, that’s a job that could get included.

The massive disparity in perceived spending versus actual spending and actual employee count versus a projected number is a problem that a majority of economic impact studies face.

According to Brandon Schaufele, assistant professor of business, economics and public policy in the Ivey School of Business at the University of Western Ontario, conducting an economic impact study is difficult, but it is especially difficult to estimate the economic impact of something like a public park.

“In general, it’s very demanding. It’s very challenging to estimate the economic impact of Gatineau Park,” he said. “Are people coming to the national capital to go to Gatineau Park? Probably some. But not likely most. It’s likely people are coming to see the capital, Parliament Hill, the museums and are also going to Gatineau Park. If you go to Chelsea for lunch, is that because of Gatineau Park or because Chelsea has a nice lunch venue?”

As far as the dollar value associated with the park’s economic impact, Schaufele didn’t comment on it directly, but did say it was low compared to most of the other economic impact studies he has read.

The consultants who compiled the NCC study told the Citizen that the $241.5 million in economic impact created by the park represented a very “conservative” estimate.

However, some wondered why the NCC would feel the need to associate a dollar value with what is arguably the most treasured public park in the national capital region.

Paul Dewar, former NDP MP for Ottawa Centre and a long-time supporter of new protections for the park, expressed concern about the NCC’s attempt to associate a dollar value with the public lands.

“It’s always been understood that this was of great value,” he said. “How does this fit into the NCC’s mandate? What are they going to be doing with this information?”

The NCC said it decided to commission the study in order to help collect research to better the management of public lands in the nation’s capital.

“The findings will be instrumental to the upcoming renewal of the Gatineau Park Master Plan,” said Jasmine Leduc, a spokeswoman for the NCC. “A greater understanding of the park’s visitors and their activities in the park, as well as the park’s connection to the local economy, is essential to the NCC’s efforts to conserve and protect the park’s ecological integrity.”

Leduc said the NCC does not plan to sell any land in Gatineau Park.

While an attendance count and better traffic management policies, which may even include limiting visitors to the park at times, may be a worthwhile effort to “conserve and protect the park’s ecological integrity,” slapping a questionable dollar value to detail the park’s economic importance to the region seems like a fruitless endeavour. Spending $122,602 of taxpayers’ money to associate a dollar figure with the park’s value seems like a waste.

The park is exactly that, a park. It’s a place that can used by all residents and visitors as a big backyard. It’s somewhere for people to go where they don’t need to spend money to reconnect with nature, mountain bike through rough terrain, swim, ski or walk with family. It’s value is in being open space for people to use, not a revenue-generating machine that attracts tourist dollars.

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Is Gatineau Park really creating a $241 million economic impact?

Vito Pilieci, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 5, 2017 | Last Updated: April 5, 2017 6:54 PM EDT


The National Capital Commission says Gatineau Park is responsible for $241.5 million in annual economic impact and 4,728 jobs in the region.

The statistics were released as part of a new study that was revealed on Tuesday by the NCC.

“Gatineau Park’s contribution to gross domestic product surpasses $241 million per year” and “activities by Gatineau Park visitors generated $184 million in annual expenditures: at restaurants, on sports and recreational equipment, and on shopping,” reads the report entitled “Gatineau Park visitor and economic impact study final report.”

The report was compiled by consultants at Environics Analytics and Nordicity Group Ltd. The NCC spent $122,602 plus HST on the study.

Researchers came to the totals after conducting surveys with around 7,000 people last year. Surveys were conducted on-site at the park, by telephone, as well as online.

By comparison, the Ottawa Senators hockey club is believed to account for $100 million in economic impact in Ottawa, according to a 2014 study. The Rideau Centre is believed to account for around $700 million in spend annually and the City of Ottawa employs around 12,000 people.

If the statistics are to be believed, and some other media organizations reported them as fact, then the economic impact of the park appears substantial. Gatineau Park: A 361-square-kilometre nature preserve that on its own creates thousands of jobs and adds millions and millions of dollars to the economy.

But is that true? The numbers in the NCC-commissioned report are not necessarily false, but how they’ve been presented is questionable. The nearly quarter-billion number trotted out by the NCC is eye-catching and makes for a good story. And that’s the issue. Dig a bit deeper and the numbers become a bit less dazzling.

“It seems far too high,” said Barry Nabatian, a director with market research firm Shore Tanner Associates. “Campers’ fees and day-pass admissions are clearly due to the park. Otherwise, the spending would most likely happen anyway. For example, they may have included the cost of buying lunch/picnic stuff to take to the park, but people have to eat anyway, and therefore such costs should not be considered as economic benefit.”

According to the study, “600,000 people visited Gatineau Park from September 2015 to August 2016” and “expenditures related to visiting Gatineau Park” during that time frame “amounted to approximately $184 million.” To put that into perspective, if we trust the study’s statistics, each of those visitors spent $306.67 visiting Gatineau Park, which seems like pretty expensive picnic-ing. To be fair, the study’s authors said many of the visitors came to the park multiple times over the course of the year, making 2.6 million visits. For those visiting multiple times, that spend would have been spread out.

Things get a little more muddy after dissecting the study’s claim about the park’s impact on gross domestic product (GDP). According to the study’s authors, the GDP impact generated by the park was $241.5 million. However, the impact on the GDP of the national capital region was only $145 million. The remaining $96.5 million was created by the park for Quebec, other Ontario municipalities and other provinces across the country, according to the studies authors. Expenses like airfare, train tickets, hotel stays and the price of items, like, say, new cross-country skis, were all factored into calculating the GDP generated by the park.

Basically, if a person comes to Ottawa to visit a family member and happens to go to the park, the cost of their travel, meals and additional expenses were all factored into the report’s conclusions.



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$241M / 2.6M visits = $92/visit.

Adding gas, food, equipment, fees, it's probably close to that much, especially when camping, or skiing.
Ski Day: $20 gas, $25 for ski rental ($700-1200 for ski purchase), $20 for food, $15 for ski pass, and then I guess ski-centric clothes (I usually shop at the Velo place in Chelsea)
Random days at the beach? Well, $20 for gas, $20 for food, $15 for parking, it's probably a bit less than $92.
Camping: $Equipment? (100 per year to replace random things) $40/day for fees? I can't remember, $40/day food, $40/day booze!! $20/day firewood, $20 gas...

Having said all that, it depends on your calculation. Do you measure what the impact/drivers are for getting butts out of the house and churning out the cash for society, or do you measure just arriving there, doing activities, and leaving?
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$241M / 2.6M visits = $92/visit.

Adding gas, food, equipment, fees, it's probably close to that much, especially when camping, or skiing.
Ski Day: $20 gas, $25 for ski rental ($700-1200 for ski purchase), $20 for food, $15 for ski pass, and then I guess ski-centric clothes (I usually shop at the Velo place in Chelsea)
Random days at the beach? Well, $20 for gas, $20 for food, $15 for parking, it's probably a bit less than $92.
Camping: $Equipment? (100 per year to replace random things) $40/day for fees? I can't remember, $40/day food, $40/day booze!! $20/day firewood, $20 gas...

Having said all that, it depends on your calculation. Do you measure what the impact/drivers are for getting butts out of the house and churning out the cash for society, or do you measure just arriving there, doing activities, and leaving?
"Leaf peeping" also generates a fair number of visits to Gatineau Park and environs.
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The study has a whiff of BS about it to me, but I'm pretty skeptical of all economic impact studies.
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Gatineau Hills' iconic Strutt House opens for guided tours

Lynn Saxberg, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 27, 2017 | Last Updated: April 27, 2017 6:57 PM EDT




What is Strutt House?

It was the home of Ottawa architect James Strutt and his family. Built on the Eardley Escarpment in the Gatineau Hills in 1956, its design is considered a prime example of mid-century modern architecture in Canada. It was built in six weeks by a carpenter and one helper (with assistance from Strutt on weekends), for less than $15,000.

Who was James Strutt?

Strutt, who died in 2008, was one of Canada’s most creative architects. He counted American architects Frank Lloyd Wright and Buckminster Fuller and Finland’s Alvar Aalto among his influences. Strutt believed that good design didn’t have to be expensive, nor labour intensive, and should work with the natural landscape. Built early in his career, the home is considered his signature work.

What else did he design?

During his career, Strutt designed dozens of homes in the Ottawa-Gatineau area, as well as several churches and other buildings, including Carleton University’s Loeb Building, the Canadian Nurses Association headquarters, the lodge at Camp Fortune and the Westboro Beach pavilions, to name a few.

Why is this house significant?

The geometric design makes it lightweight but strong. Built around a central concrete core, the three-bedroom, front-to-back split level is actually a 12-sided cluster of non-orthogonal rhombi, topped by an undulating wood paraboloid roof that was the first of its kind in Canada. It’s also the first building in Canada to receive a grant from the Getty Foundation as part of an initiative to preserve modern architecture around the world. “The house displays a deceptively simple combination of architectural design and building science,” noted the Getty folks.

Who owns it now?


In 2010, the National Capital Commission bought Strutt House from Lesley Strutt, James’ daughter. As one of the homes within Gatineau Park, it was slated for demolition, part of the NCC’s effort to return parkland to its natural state. In fact, the pool had already been filled when a heritage report recommended its preservation. It was designated a federal heritage building in 2012. After a lengthy negotiation process, the NCC leased it to the Strutt Foundation in 2015.

What are they doing with it?

The Strutt Foundation has set up a public/private/non-for-profit model of heritage preservation, working with colleges and universities, as well as a committee of knowledgeable volunteers with expertise in architectural heritage, to stabilize and rehabilitate the property. Although structurally sound, it was in rough shape after sitting empty for three years. According to one volunteer, their mantra with the project is “What would James do?”

Is it open to the public?

Yes, but you have to arrange a visit in advance. Go to struttfoundation.ca and use the “contact us” tab to indicate your interest. The house is located at 1220 Chemin de la Montagne, Gatineau. Perched on the steep escarpment, it’s not an easily accessible location: dozens of stairs lead up from a limited number of parking spaces, and there are more stairs at the entrance.

What’s it like?

It’s a work in progress, inside and out, with various rehabilitation projects that will be going on through the summer. The 1,679 square-feet residence includes an open-concept living and dining area, a compact kitchen and plenty of glass above the walls to make the most of the natural light, although some of the glass was still boarded over during this week’s press tour. Overall, it looks like a terrific party pad — James and Audrey Strutt loved music and were famous for their Friday-night parties, with a guest list that included the likes of Pierre Trudeau and Buckminster Fuller.

There’s an exhibit, too


Starting May 1, Strutt House will be featured in an exhibition at the Gatineau Park Visitor Centre in Chelsea, about a 10-minute drive from the property. Entitled Conserving an Icon: The Strutt House, it’s also part of a student-compiled display of modernist residences across Canada.

Strutt House is designated as a modern architecture pavilion. What’s that about?

As part of its sesquicentennial celebrations, the NCC is shining a light on 10 of its most interesting but under-used properties in 2017. So far, the Confederation Pavilions to be unveiled include the winter pavilion at Rideau Hall, the urban agricultural pavilion at Moore Farm, the international pavilion on Clarence Street and now the modern architecture pavilion at Strutt House.

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NCC seeks public input on additional 110 km of proposed official trails
The new network has been in the works for more than four years.

By: Haley Ritchie, Metro
Published on Sun Apr 30 2017



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The National Capital Commission is asking the public for feedback on a new plan to add another 110 km of trails inside Gatineau Park, which it hopes will satisfy rogue trail users.

“The unofficial trail network that has developed over the years is having a significant environmental impact on sensitive habitats in this conservation park,” reads the NCC’s statement on the consultation.

“To address this issue, we are seeking to reduce the overall negative impacts on the Park’s ecological health, while improving the trail network to meet user needs,” it continues.

Right now the NCC offers 200 km of official trails for hiking, mountain biking, snowshoeing and skiing.

The new proposed network would add another 110 km of trails, based off of the advice of groups that have developed and use the current rogue system.

After a public consultation last week, the NCC is now asking for input in an online survey. It’s part of a larger process that has been taking place during the last three years.

“The NCC did a really good job of taking input from various user groups,” said Sandra Beaubien, president of the Ottawa Mountain Biking Association.

Beaubien said many mountain bikers are looking for thinner, more technical trails that have a more rustic feel.

Much of the current network open to bikers are shared with cross-country skiers and are gravelled to facilitate grooming in the winter.

“Mountain bikers are looking for a more natural surface, just a dirt trail through to rocks and something more technical, challenging and fun,” said Beaubien. “There’s really been a lack of that on the official trails for the last ten to 20 years. It’s really exciting to have permission to ride in the future.”

Beaubien said she can’t speak for everyone, but believes the new trail network would relieve pressure on sensitive areas of Gatineau Park.

“I think if there’s something offered that people want to use, they’ll use those trails instead of continuing to build new ones,” she said.

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Gatineau Park free shuttle from Ottawa to start this weekend
Shuttle aims to ease congestion on park roads.

By: Ryan Tumilty, Metro
Published on Wed Sep 27 2017




Checking out the fall colours in the Gatineau Park no longer requires getting in the car, as the NCC will begin a free shuttle service there this weekend.

For the first time, the NCC’s shuttle service will pick up on the Ottawa side of the river, with a stop at Sussex Drive and York Street in the Byward Market.

Christie Spence, the park’s director, said it makes it easier for more people to attend the park.

“People who don’t have access to their own vehicles haven’t been able to enjoy it, so we’re very happy to be able to welcome to the park,” she said.

After picking up in the market, the shuttle makes several stops in Gatineau before making several stops within the park, including Pink Lake, the MacKenzie King Estate and the Champlain Lookout.

Spence said in addition to opening up the park it also helps manage traffic there which can become difficult in peak weekends.

“We’re hoping to move towards more sustainable transportation with many people and many cars, so we’re hoping the shuttle we will be able to move more toward sustainable transportation,” she said.

Spence said they’ve been gradually expanding the shuttle, which will run from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. on the next four weekends and adding Ottawa was the logical next step.

She said people have really embraced it.

“We didn’t do a lot of promotion and we we’re still quite busy,” she said. “Last year was a real test to see if people would get on in Downtown Gatineau and they did.”

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I suggested this a few years ago. It gets insane up in the park during these peak fall colour weekends.

But why 2 p.m. as an ending time (or is this just departures from Ottawa)? This seems awfully early to stop service. It would seem more reasonable to stop at 5 pm or 6 pm. How often will the shuttle run? I would like to see it run every 15 minutes, to allow people to hop off and hop on and not have to worry about lengthy waits.

I was up there a few weekends ago, and there was a parking lot shuttle operating to the MacKenzie King estate but I knew nothing about it. It was crazy there despite the rain that day.
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I suggested this a few years ago. It gets insane up in the park during these peak fall colour weekends.

But why 2 p.m. as an ending time (or is this just departures from Ottawa)? This seems awfully early to stop service. It would seem more reasonable to stop at 5 pm or 6 pm. How often will the shuttle run? I would like to see it run every 15 minutes, to allow people to hop off and hop on and not have to worry about lengthy waits.

I was up there a few weekends ago, and there was a parking lot shuttle operating to the MacKenzie King estate but I knew nothing about it. It was crazy there despite the rain that day.
Wondering this myself, 2pm seems awfully early to stop service.
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It is a very limited service level. Also, why not give the operator a full-day's shift?
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I suggested this a few years ago. It gets insane up in the park during these peak fall colour weekends.
Got turned away from admission last fall the one time we tried to go.

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But why 2 p.m. as an ending time (or is this just departures from Ottawa)? This seems awfully early to stop service. It would seem more reasonable to stop at 5 pm or 6 pm. How often will the shuttle run? I would like to see it run every 15 minutes, to allow people to hop off and hop on and not have to worry about lengthy waits.
Yeah, the hours and frequency seem to leave something to be desired. Hopefully there's some built-in flexibility in case demand exceeds supply.
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Yeah, the hours and frequency seem to leave something to be desired. Hopefully there's some built-in flexibility in case demand exceeds supply.
I think the 2pm departure time is just the last bus leaving from Ottawa. NCC probably wants to avoid a late afternoon rush of visitos leaving more people in the Park than they can shuttle out before dark.
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I think the 2pm departure time is just the last bus leaving from Ottawa. NCC probably wants to avoid a late afternoon rush of visitos leaving more people in the Park than they can shuttle out before dark.
Yup, it's the last one from Ottawa. The last shuttles from Gatineau Park are still a little earlier than I'd like but it's a start. Here's the info:

Free shuttles starting from downtown Ottawa and Gatineau to Pink lake, Mackenzie King Estate and Champlain Lookout

From 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Last depature from Ottawa at 2 p.m.
Last departure from Champlain Lookout at 4 p.m.
Every 20 minutes (approximatively)
Departures points:

Downtown Ottawa (Sussex/York)
Des Allumettières / Laurier
Centre Robert Guertin Park-and-Ride (St-Rédempteur / Allard)
Terrasses de la Chaudière (transfer on OC Transpo)
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The sun sets at 6:40. There was probably an internal study/review indicating the optimal time to leave, after many grueling hours and calculations they came up with "mid afternoon".
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The sun sets at 6:40. There was probably an internal study/review indicating the optimal time to leave, after many grueling hours and calculations they came up with "mid afternoon".
Sunsets? Ain't nobody got time for that!
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Sunsets? Ain't nobody got time for that!
I knew you'd come.

Think of the Outlanders that don't know about the sunset times in Canada. They can't! We best hurry them back to their hotels and stuff.. a glimpse is enough. 2 PM!
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NCC wants 'big ideas' for next 50 years of Gatineau Park
National Capital Commission launches first of four-stage process to draft a new "master plan" for Gatineau Park.

Aedan Helmer, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: October 20, 2017 | Last Updated: October 20, 2017 11:00 AM EDT


The National Capital Commission is inviting some “big ideas” from the public as it envisions a new master plan for the next 50 years in Gatineau Park.

The NCC launched a four-stage process, with each stage including extensive public consultations for the 361-square-kilometre park, where locals account for 90 per cent of the park’s 2.6 million visits per year.

“Ultimately the goal of this whole process is to not only come up with a great plan that guides the future of the park, but it will align us all, from visitors to the park and recreational users of the park, with the residents, municipalities, stakeholders, and with all the natural world in a sustainable vision we can all agree on,” said NCC chief executive Mark Kristmanson to a crowd of about 100 people, nearly half from the Gatineau side of the river, at the first of a series of public consultations Thursday in downtown Ottawa.

“There are very substantive issues to work out to get that kind of alignment.”

The NCC last approved a master plan in 2005, said Christie Spence, NCC director of Quebec urban lands.

“We aim to review it every ten years, so we’re due,” said Spence, who said the last master plan clearly identified the public’s desire for a focus on conservation.

“We’re at a really important time in the park where, more often than not we’re full – our parking lots are full, the parkways are congested. So do we go down that path? Can we conserve some of the natural resources we have? What is the long-term vision?

“It’s an unusual park because it’s not like a national park where it’s very clear in legislation what we’re here for and what its long-term purpose is,” said Spence. “We’ve said Gatineau Park is a conservation park, that’s what’s in the last master plan, but we’re saying now, ‘When your grandkids come here, what do you want them to see?’

“This is a first step, and we want to hear from people and what’s on their minds, so we get a scope of the review.”

The NCC said public consultation will play a major role in each of the four phases of the plan, according to NCC director of long-range planning Lucie Bureau.

Thursday’s brainstorming session will be followed by a similar event at Gatineau’s Crowne Plaza Hotel on Rue Montcalm on Nov. 1 at 6 p.m.

Planners will then begin to craft a vision for the park from those ideas during the fall and winter.

“We’ll see the public again to get feedback on the vision we’ve worked on,” said Bureau. “The third step is to work on the zoning and a concept map, and the last step is to present a final draft to the public and they have their last say.”

The process is expected to be complete by winter 2019.

Along the way, NCC planners expect to hear a range of opinions, often delivered passionately, and they expect to field some diverging views.

“Planning is all about finding consensus,” said Bureau. “That’s why we’re meeting the public throughout the process.”

The public is invited to visit the NCC website (ncc.ccn.gc.ca), which will host an online survey as part of the public consultation. The online site will accept submissions until Nov. 14 at midnight.

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