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Originally Posted by osmo
I'll never consider any city that eats nearly half a day to get to as part of a metro area.
Hamilton is 'right beside' Toronto but it is a journey to get too - both car and Transit. If you are going to Hamilton you are killing half of your day to make it happen.
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Traffic and travel in the Golden Horseshoe is busy, but it's not actually half a day to get to Toronto from Hamilton. If you're lucky and you time it right it's an hour on the QEW, and if you're unlucky it's an hour and a half or more. Trains and buses are slower.
More accurately, a trip from Hamilton to Toronto and back to get one thing at a specific store, or eat lunch or dinner with someone, is going to take at least four or five hours.
But your metric isn't reasonable. You're can spend the same amount of time going from Scarborough to Mississauga and back. Same thing with commuting in other large metros.
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Originally Posted by manny_santos
If high speed rail gets built, London could be a contender, though it will still be playing second fiddle to KWC.
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Yeah, as much as London was bigger earlier and therefore feels grander downtown and in the adjacent neighbourhoods, and, frankly, isn't quite so butt ugly as K-W, it still really does feel like a comparative afterthought. K-W really does feel more connected to the GTA.
On the other hand, the isolation makes London a little bit interesting as an independent entity. Emphasis on the "little bit."