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Old Posted Jun 17, 2013, 11:26 AM
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Just a quick note, GCI is the one re-tracking the cyclone, not Zamperla.

It was Zamperla (or to be specific CAI), the operator of the Cyclone and Luna Park that had the work done. Here's the article again about a "gentler" Cyclone.


http://www.brooklyndaily.com/stories..._01_20_bk.html

A kinder, gentler Cyclone

By Daniel Bush
Jan 18, 2012

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The legendary Coney Island Cyclone will get a major overhaul that promises a safer, smoother, and less rickety experience — but roller coaster aficionados worry that the fix-up will take the thrills out of the 85-year-old thrill ride.

Beginning this month, workers will replace sections of the coaster’s wooden track that have been worn down by decades of heavy use — and the end result will be a coaster that rides more like a Cadillac than a Jeep, according to Tom Corsillo, of Central Amusement International, the owners of Luna Park who operates the city-owned coaster.

“It’s going to be a much smoother ride,” Corsillo told us.

But some Cyclone fans say getting banged around by the coaster is a big part of it’s appeal. “There’s nothing more fun than riding the Cyclone and getting a few bruises,” said Josh Bauchner, who rides the Cyclone multiple times a year. Bauchner was one of many coaster boosters who bemoaned the upgrades.

But Corsillo said the Cyclone’s faithful had nothing to worry about, claiming the Cyclone will now be safer, but still be scary — its top speed of 60 miles per hour will not be changed, and its hairpin turns that have been famous since the 1920s will not be affected by the update.

“What made the Cyclone popular is not changing,” Corsillo said.

“The average person won’t be able to tell the difference,” said Jim Barber, a spokesman for the National Association of Amusement Ride Safety Organizations.

But Jason Herrera, the director of Amusement Safety Organization, said hard-core fans are in for a surprise. “The changes will take away that shake, rattle and roll,” said Herrera, who says he’s familiar with the Cyclone experience.

The coaster’s last major upgrade came in the mid-1970s, when the city saved the ride from demolition.


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One shark is dead, another is wounded at new Applebee’s aquarium in Coney Island
Bloodshed is on the menu at new eatery. Four sharks remain, and customers are salivating.





Sisters Angelina, 5, and Alessandra Rumayor, 8, look at the 5,000-gallon aquarium in Coney Island, after one shark died and another needed to be evicted for bad behavior. The restaurant will open on schedule Monday, despite the bloodshed.


By Simone Weichselbaum AND Stephen Rex Brown
June 17, 2013


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The new Applebee’s restaurant in Coney Island celebrates its grand opening Monday — and death is on the menu. A Blacktip shark named Zane had to be removed Friday from the restaurant’s 5,000-gallon aquarium after devouring three Lookdown fish in a shocking killing spree. That very same day, a Whitetip shark died after colliding with a three-foot Wonder Wheel replica in the tank, leaving employees shaken by the mayhem.

The sharks “were in shock. We moved them in too quickly,” said Applebee’s owner Zane Tankel, who saw the bloodthirsty $4,000 shark, his namesake, hauled to an aquarium in the aptly named Fishkill, N.Y. due to its poor table manners. They went from being in an ocean to being in a tank. They were all disoriented,” Tankel added. The chaos was captured by a camera crew filming an episode of the reality show "Tanked" on Animal Planet.

The 20-foot-long tank still has an assortment of tropical fish, stingrays and a foot-long Leopard shark, as well as three bottom-dwelling Smooth-hound sharks. The Wonder Wheel and replica parachute jump still adorn the faux seascape.

Tankel said he was in constant contact with an aquarium expert to deduce what made the Blacktip, which is known for being relatively docile, snap. Zane the shark had been fed a lion-share of herring Friday at 10 a.m. — but his bloodlust was not sated. “He was swimming around on the top and boom! He ate the whole thing," said Applebee's general manager Armando Rumayor.

The deaths happened the same day the sharks were dropped in the tank following a two-day trip to Brooklyn. Tankel said he’d soon spend $500 more for another Whitetip shark, as well. "His sonar system didn't work well," Tankel joked. Some joke; sharks do not actually have sonar.

Tankel hoped Zane would be returned soon. "We are concerned about his health. The sharks are a big investment," he added, noting that the aquarium is intended to reel in customers. After the wild weekend, Rumayor realized he had a new job description. "It is easy for me to a manage people. But now I have to manage fish, too!" he said.

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^GCI is the one that is re-tracking the Cyclone, though I believe it was Zamperla that had the idea to do it. However, Zamperla does not build wooden coasters, so they subcontracted GCI to do it for them. This has been done before in parks such as Europa Park where Mack, an amusement ride manufacturer, owns the park, though they don't manufacture wooden coasters, so they had GCI build a wooden coaster for their park.

EDIT: Here's a link to an article on the re-tracking: http://www.amusementtoday.com/cai-se...sland-cyclone/
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^GCI is the one that is re-tracking the Cyclone, though I believe it was Zamperla that had the idea to do it. However, Zamperla does not build wooden coasters, so they subcontracted GCI to do it for them. This has been done before in parks such as Europa Park where Mack, an amusement ride manufacturer, owns the park, though they don't manufacture wooden coasters, so they had GCI build a wooden coaster for their park.

EDIT: Here's a link to an article on the re-tracking: http://www.amusementtoday.com/cai-se...sland-cyclone/
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2013, 2:23 PM
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^GCI is the one that is re-tracking the Cyclone, though I believe it was Zamperla that had the idea to do it.
Yes, Zamperla had it done, they took over the lease of the Cyclone from the city, to go with other multiple leases they have already. When I say Zamperla had the tracks redone, that's what it means. GCI didn't just decide to come by and work on the tracks. If I say Larry Silverstein built tower 4 at the WTC, it doesn't mean he actually did the work. It doesn't matter, he built it.



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As Coney Island Stirs, One Man’s Vision Is Unbuilt






By C. J. HUGHES
June 18, 2013


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For over 30 years, Horace Bullard’s visions for Coney Island amounted to little more than a boardwalk of broken dreams. His plans for year-round amusement parks and bustling commerce for full-time employment never came to fruition. The properties he bought up in the 1970s and ‘80s – the Shore Theater, the Thunderbolt roller coaster and the Playland Arcade — either remain dilapidated and largely vacant, or have been utterly vanquished.

And while a burst of new retail development and two additional amusement parks have been attracting more visitors to Coney Island, Mr. Bullard’s ideas for a few key parcels seem stalled again. He died of Lou Gehrig’s disease in April, prompting his lone heir, his daughter, Jasmine, to remove his properties, including the decrepit but landmark-status Shore Theater, from the market for the first time in years.

...“He wanted year-round amusements, year-round employees,” said Ralph Perfetto, a Coney Island resident and political organizer who knew Mr. Bullard since the 1970s. “It would make the neighborhood safe at night, it would be lighted up and clean, so we were strongly in favor of Horace Bullard.” Even Mr. Bullard’s stationery was inscribed with carnival rides on it.

He bought the Shore Theater for $125,000 in 1979, Ms. Lew Bullard said. Within a few years, Mr. Bullard had assembled enough land to unveil a $450 million plan for a new amusement park on the site of the former Steeplechase Park, which included a 110,500-square-foot parcel between Surf Avenue and the boardwalk where the old Thunderbolt ride, immortalized in “Annie Hall,” once sat. But financing fell apart when Wall Street tumbled in the late 1980s. Then, in what would turn into a drawn-out battle with City Hall, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani revoked Mr. Bullard’s approvals for the project, in 1994, two months after taking office. Eventually, the city demolished the Thunderbolt.

Even when Mr. Bullard later lined up prominent development partners, he said his projects never received a go-ahead from the city. In later interviews, he blamed racist attitudes for the roadblocks. Jasmine Bullard declined to explain her reasoning for removing the parcels from the market. In an interview, she said: “I share my father’s vision for a better Coney Island. But I don’t have any plans that are specific right now.”

Analysts say her decision may be a signal that the properties aren’t going to be sold at discounted prices as part of some fire sale simply because Mr. Bullard has died. Others say Ms. Bullard would be wise to wait, as improving land values, based in part on the increasing revival of parts of Coney Island, may enable her to get even higher prices for her holdings after the summer winds die down.

...Similarly no longer being actively marketed is the site of the former Steeplechase Park. Until Ms. Bullard’s decisions to unlist the land, that rectangular parcel, adjacent to MCU Park, the baseball stadium for the Brooklyn Cyclones, had been listed at $90 million with Mr. Vitacco.

Some friends and business associates say Mr. Bullard was never the same after the Thunderbolt was razed in 2000. “He started out as a strong, vibrant and handsome young man, and I saw him age because of what happened,” Mr. Perfetto said. “He got gray hair and didn’t have that spark in his eyes like he used to.” Mr. Bullard ultimately won a $1 million settlement from the city, but according to Mr. Bullard’s lawyer, Barry S. Gedan, refused to collect the money because it came from taxpayers.

His daughter disputed accounts that her father’s spirit was broken by the demolition, saying he was happy-go-lucky until the end of his life. “He would never waste his time being hung up on something that didn’t come to fruition from the past,” she said.




Steeplechase Park in 1955. Mr. Bullard had bold plans for the park decades later.




Mr. Bullard's ambitious and multimillion-dollar redevelopment vision of Steeplechase Park in 1985.




The Shore Theater, a landmark that was owned by Mr. Bullard, had been on the market for many years.




The Shore Theater’s auditorium in 2011.




An open lot owned by the estate of Horace Bullard along the boardwalk.




A new building by Thor Equities includes the candy chain It’Sugar and other retailers, part of a new business revival.




A two-level Applebee’s restaurant, with an enormous fish tank, opened this week.
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Yes, Zamperla had it done, they took over the lease of the Cyclone from the city, to go with other multiple leases they have already. When I say Zamperla had the tracks redone, that's what it means. GCI didn't just decide to come by and work on the tracks. If I say Larry Silverstein built tower 4 at the WTC, it doesn't mean he actually did the work. It doesn't matter, he built it.
Yep Great Coasters International wouldn't get to decide since they are a manufacture of coasters; they have to be given a job and hired by someone in this case being Zamperla. But just so everyone is on the same "track" Zamperla is having GCI re-track the Cyclone.
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just so everyone is on the same "track" Zamperla is having GCI re-track the Cyclone.
Actualy, they aren't. It's already been done...



The new lighting of the parachute drop is this Friday, and reports are that it will be spectacular.

Luna Park invites a "flash mob" to the unveiling...


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Right next door is the new pavilion for the newly restored B&B Carousell.

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Actualy, they aren't. It's already been done...
Well yes an no, the re-tracking has been going on for a while now and wont be done for a while. They are doing it in stages.
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Well yes an no, the re-tracking has been going on for a while now and wont be done for a while. They are doing it in stages.
Its done, according to Zamperla. They have other improvements planned, but I don't know what they are.
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The lighting of the parachute drop is very similar to what they did with the Empire State Building. Very nice...


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You see a lot of the different patterns in this video...

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Never get sick of looking at these parachute jump videos. The lighting is similar to the shows at the ESB, and what I'm assuming the lighting of the Freedom Tower and Staten Island wheel
will look like. The will be lighting the astro-tower also back at the old Astroland site (on the left in the cam shot).










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Meanwhile, it was very crowded Saturday as parade goers, boardwalk strollers, and people who just wanted to beach converged...


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Still working to restore the pier...

























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A few photos from Saturday's Mermaid Parade. Posted the rest of the pics here...
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Back to redevelopment issues...


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New Thunderbolt roller coaster to join Cyclone at Coney Island








The site of the new Thunderbolt as of last week. It will be built on the right side of this large vacant lot...








It will be built on the left side of this photo...




Meanwhile, similar vacant lots in the amusement area await the redevelopment wave...







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Marty’s Childs play! Plans to convert Coney landmark into outdoor music venue revealed


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An important stage of the redevelopment will be the western end of the plan, which will transform this
underutilized stretch of space. The plan for the amphitheater/restaurant will probably require another
rezoning of this portion of the plan, possibly opening up the area to more amusements...



(conceptual image from the rezoning plan)






















A closer look at some detail of the building...






















As the videos show, the relighting of the parachute drop has been excellent and fitting for Coney Island's most recognizable landmark.
It's sometimes referred to as the "Eiffel Tower of Brooklyn".






It's really been closed off from the public for years, but with the newly built Steeplechase Plaza, you can get up close and personal...

















The plaza itself is supposed to serve as a gateway, and gathering place for events...













The B&B Carousel as it stood for years on Surf Avenue. It was sold off and rescued by the City before its restoration and move to the boardwalk...



http://www.amusementtoday.com/bb-car...need-of-votes/



http://themeparks.about.com/od/theme...-Spin-Zone.htm


A few years of restoration, and it looks brand new...





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Crowds flocking to cleaned up Coney Island causing traffic woes for residents
More than 2.4 million people have visited the revamped summer hot spot so far this year.





Coney Island is jam packed as temps soar, but causing traffic headaches for neighborhood residents.










By Simone Weichselbaum
June 27, 2013


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Summer crowds packing into the newly cleaned up Coney Island are irking longtime residents who complain the beachfront neighborhood can’t handle the surge in popularity. “We feel like sardines,” said Mathylde Frontus, who lives on W. 30th St., two blocks from the boardwalk. “We are happy people are enjoying our neighborhood. But it’s at a price. We can’t get around. There is not enough space.”

More than 2.4 million sun lovers have flocked to Brooklyn’s famous shore so far this year, according to a Parks Department spokeswoman, who added 4.3 million people have visited city beaches in 2013.

But Coney Island homeowners grouse the influx is crowding the People’s Playground, which has undergone millions of dollars in post Superstorm Sandy changes, causing a deluge of bumper-to-bumper traffic. On top of the beach buffs flooding the community, thrill seekers are also streaming in — drawn to the slew of renovated rides, such as the infamous Cyclone and Wonder Wheel . The improvements, coupled with a stream of national chains setting up shop along Surf Ave. such as Applebee’s and IT’ SUGAR, are drawing a fresh wave of tourists who had snubbed Coney’s gritty past.

“It’s getting worse. People are taking up our parking spaces. They are leaving trash everywhere,” said W. 31 St. homeowner Ronald Stewart, 61. “We are getting frustrated. We feel powerless.”

Community Board 13 is in talks with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority and city Department of Transportation to figure out ways to ease the congestion. A DOT spokeswoman said the agency is considering whether to change traffic signal timing on Neptune Ave., to help cars move along faster. Eddie Mark, CB12 chairman, said finding places to park is his main concern. “Usually people are going to New Jersey or Long Island. But they are still recovering because of Sandy. So more people are coming to our beaches,” Mark said.

Mark asked the MTA to convert a train yard behind the Avenue X subway station on the F line into a 1,000 car parking lot. “We want to have a trolly car come and pick up people and take them to the beach,” Mark said. “Something like they have in Disney World.”

But MTA spokesman Aaron Donovan said the board’s dream will never happen. “We have no plans to build a parking deck above our Coney Island subway maintenance facility and/or train yard,” Donovan said.
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Luna Park officials say the iconic Astrotower will likely be taken down overnight after the structure was first spotted yesterday swaying heavily in the wind.

Park owners say they are working with the city's Parks Department to obtain permits for demolition. The city Buildings Department has not yet confirmed that the tower will be coming down. The amusement park was first evacuated around 5 p.m. Tuesday after calls came in about the 275-foot tower. Winds were only mild at the time, about 5 to 10 mph. It is not unusual for the tower to move a bit, but fire officials say the amount of sway was more extreme than in the past.

Luna Park officials say part of the structure was recently removed, which led to the more prominent sway. It was not immediately known whether the city had ordered or approved the removal. "I'd seen that it was shaking and then it slowed down, it was shaking more when they came, and then it stopped shaking. So, I was a little, well I was worried when it started shaking but then once it stopped I was relieved. But that's when they started evacuating," said one witness.

The Astrotower was installed in 1964 but has not been in use since 2010. As a result of the impending demolition, the Cyclone rollercoaster and Wonder Wheel will remain closed. The nearby Scream Zone, which has about four rides, remains open. Park officials say they are hoping to salvage part of the holiday weekend. The annual Nathan's Famous Hot Dog Eating Contest will not be affected.

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Please read this page, and the companies website. I am a roller coaster enthusiast as well. Great Coasters International is doing to re-tracking.
CAI just owns the coaster. They hired GCI to do the re-tracking.
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My Dad has vivid memories of riding the Parachute Jump at the NY World's Fair of 1939-1940. I've just forwarded him the info on the refurb!
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http://www.greatcoasters.com/?p=projects&id=42I am a roller coaster enthusiast as well.
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I wonder if we'll ever get any roller coasters of the kind you would find at a Six Flags or Cedar Fair park.

An older-model of this type would be awesome if it could be purchased from another park/owner (although I'm sure there would be issues with cost/space:
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I wonder if we'll ever get any roller coasters of the kind you would find at a Six Flags or Cedar Fair park.

An older-model of this type would be awesome if it could be purchased from another park/owner (although I'm sure there would be issues with cost/space:
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Well Zamperla is a bit smaller of a company. If we were talking Six Flags or Cedar Fair, your top choices for manufacturers would be Bollinger and Mabillard, Intamin, Great Coasters International, or Vekoma. Vekoma is cheap, and GCI means quality wooden coasters. B and M is unlikely, and they are very expensive, and with Intamin. The best coasters however, are Intamin, in my opinion. Also the coaster in the above video is built by Arrow Dynamics, who used to basically own the industry. But in 2000 (I think it was) they went bankrupt, so the chances of seeing a Arrow coaster are slim to none. They did get bought out by S and S Worldwide though, so an S and S coaster is not too far out of reach.
As far as space goes, that wouldn't be an issue. Intamin is highly capable of making compact rides, just as B and M can. But if you really want awesome rides for as little space as possible, look no further than Gerstlauer. Their eurofighters are some of the most fun rides for their space. Look up The Smiler at Alton Towers, Dare Devil Dive of SFOG, or Rock Bottom Plunge at Mall of America. So its obvious that they have the options of better rides, its just whatever the park thinks they need that will go in. Only time will tell I guess.
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Well Zamperla is a bit smaller of a company. If we were talking Six Flags or Cedar Fair, your top choices for manufacturers would be Bollinger and Mabillard, Intamin, Great Coasters International, or Vekoma. Vekoma is cheap, and GCI means quality wooden coasters. B and M is unlikely, and they are very expensive, and with Intamin. The best coasters however, are Intamin, in my opinion. Also the coaster in the above video is built by Arrow Dynamics, who used to basically own the industry. But in 2000 (I think it was) they went bankrupt, so the chances of seeing a Arrow coaster are slim to none. They did get bought out by S and S Worldwide though, so an S and S coaster is not too far out of reach.
As far as space goes, that wouldn't be an issue.
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I'm not really up on all the detail in the world of thrill rides, but my enthusiasm for coasters is equal to my love of skyscrapers.

B&M and Intamin are my favorites as far as steel coasters go. Since we already have the Cyclone, I think a nice compact steel would be perfect. I was just assuming that it may be better to purchase a coaster out of a warehouse, though I'm not sure if there are any decent steel coasters from the 80's/early90's laying around.

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Intamin is highly capable of making compact rides, just as B and M can. But if you really want awesome rides for as little space as possible, look no further than Gerstlauer. Their eurofighters are some of the most fun rides for their space. Look up The Smiler at Alton Towers, Dare Devil Dive of SFOG, or Rock Bottom Plunge at Mall of America. So its obvious that they have the options of better rides, its just whatever the park thinks they need that will go in. Only time will tell I guess.
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I rode the Rock Bottom Plunge a few times while I was at MoA. It's a great ride, but I was thinking more of the traditional closed-circuit/station kind that can pump out 1000 rides an hour.
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