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Old Posted Jun 3, 2018, 2:44 PM
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How long has 77 been open? More than a decade, certainly. You're gonna need to throw a whole lot more 9s onto that percentage.

Also "some patrons?" Wasn't it a former employee?
It wasnt a former employee. It was “some patrons” who were kicked out.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilt...faro-1.3744019

And yes 99.99999% of the patrons dont go to that extreme, however there are some minor disturbances which are more common.

Still, to say the safe injection clinic will cause more problems than club 77 patrons ever will isnt something I completely agree with given the severity of what happened at 77. That was the jist of my original comment.

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I think it's beside the point to debate the likelihood of incidents or problems... to me decisions about the future of this venue should be tied to compatibility with the surrounding area.

On the fringe of downtown, next to a sea of parking, the club has been fine (going all the way back to when it was the Texas Border in the 1990s, a place I frequented in university with my friends; perhaps further into the past too as I can't recall what was there prior). As the area changes with more residential development on the way, it won't be a fit.

I'm not sure the building needs to be demolished, but I think the days for this particular use are growing short.
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Here's a photo of the factory that used to stand on most of this block, courtesy a Spec opinion piece. From the description in the story this angle is the corner of John and Rebecca.

I don't think I've ever seen this before.


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New downtown park should be called Gurney to honour history -- The Hamilton Spectator (Jul 06, 2018; by Joachim Brouwer)

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That is a beautiful building. That's really too bad.
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Shame it was lost. I love the mansard roof! I'm not really sure what a use for the existing structure could be within the context of the park, but either way, lets get construction started.
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So 77 survives for a while potentially? But not Lulu's?

Also that looks awful. I work basically kitty corner from it. Wish they did something more coherent.
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Just what our downtown needs, a 'park' that is 50%+ cement. Simply shameful.
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1. What's happening with Lulu's? I thought they were going to be included in this.
2. What is a "play knoll"?
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The previous design was much nicer, despite being super boring. There was a lot of potential here, and instead we get a super boring disjointed park without any real utility.
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I'd like to see some renderings before making any judgements. I've seen some amazing urban parks in other cities that appear to be busy for small space, yet it works wonderfully. Lots of trees is a key in my mind, and water jet/skating rink. So I'm glad to see those elements here.
Lots of seating, benches, seating walls need to be included here too. Hopefully we'll see some retail/dining/cafe type operations in the ground floor of the new condo to the north of here which can spill into the park.
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Good news today... Forrec is the company designing this park. They're the ones doing our new Pier 8 Waterfront Promenade park as well. They do good work.
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I'd like to see some renderings before making any judgements. I've seen some amazing urban parks in other cities that appear to be busy for small space, yet it works wonderfully. Lots of trees is a key in my mind, and water jet/skating rink. So I'm glad to see those elements here.
Lots of seating, benches, seating walls need to be included here too. Hopefully we'll see some retail/dining/cafe type operations in the ground floor of the new condo to the north of here which can spill into the park.
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Lulu's doesn't want or plan to move and definitely does not like the idea of a park here...

Big plans for a central parking lot in Hamilton to be turned into park land
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Lulu's doesn't want or plan to move and definitely does not like the idea of a park here...

Big plans for a central parking lot in Hamilton to be turned into park land

LOL...that is SO Hamilton. Everyone hates change here. They'd rather a disgusting parking lot than a new park connected to a new condo. In proper cities with forward thinking business owners these guys would be looking at re-aligning their front door to face east and talk to the city about bringing a patio/plaza seating area right to the King William sidewalk between their building and the club. Their business can spill into the park and people can sit outside while eating. It's stunning how few people in this city have an ounce of vision.
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A few images to show the kind of vibe I hope to see in this park based on the overhead image we've seen.











Rebecca St frontage....
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I'd like to see some renderings before making any judgements. I've seen some amazing urban parks in other cities that appear to be busy for small space, yet it works wonderfully. Lots of trees is a key in my mind, and water jet/skating rink. So I'm glad to see those elements here.
Lots of seating, benches, seating walls need to be included here too. Hopefully we'll see some retail/dining/cafe type operations in the ground floor of the new condo to the north of here which can spill into the park.
Agreed. There are lots of different kinds of parks and in a small space like this, it should be busy. It's not going to be the kind of place you can play soccer or go on a nature walk in.
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The worst part about this plan is that 77 is still there.
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