PHILADELPHIA | 21M (2120 Market) | 350 FT | 25 FLOORS

[SEFTA]

I think developers being skiddish is reasonable. Considering the amount of space coming online, both commercial and residential. I'm sure if the existing projects being built now show positive results, these downgrades will be reversed in kind.

[SEFTA]

You can tell a lot about a project by the latest renderings. If they seem really well fleshed out they are more than likely serious. If they are vague and shadowy they are just talking points.

[Nova08]

Originally Posted by SEFTA

I think if it wants density/skyscraper there needs to be a subway station for that kind of investment

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

There are plenty of reasons why there should be a subway at that site. One being better access to Rittenhouse

It's just over a half mile from the Trader Joe's to Rittenhouse...a 12 min walk
It's just under a half mile from the Trader Joe's to 30th station Septa/MFL/Amtrak...a 9 min walk.

I understand this location can be seen as a bit of a hole in terms of public transportation access compared to the rest of center city, but it is not out on an island with zero access.

[Knight Hospitaller]

^ Not an "island," but this is still Philly, where being a block or two away is (mentally) a long distance.

[summersm343]

3/23/17

[Knight Hospitaller]

Just prepping for a surface lot for the time being, right?

[jjv007]

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

Just prepping for a surface lot for the time being, right?

Yup, that's the current plan.

[mcgrath618]

Couldn't snap a pic but there seems to be some odd concrete structure on this lot. Anyone else see it?

[shadowbat2]

^"June 5th" building collapse memorial.

[allovertown]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Couldn't snap a pic but there seems to be some odd concrete structure on this lot. Anyone else see it?

Wait till you see how weird it gets. "Giant glowing neon tombstone" about sums it up. Truly the worst park I've ever seen.

[Londonee]

Originally Posted by allovertown

Wait till you see how weird it gets. "Giant glowing neon tombstone" about sums it up. Truly the worst park I've ever seen.

It's insane. And now it's also a grafiti magnet. It's so lame - the whole project - that it's almost disrespectful to the victims.


Nothing like cracked concrete to say we care:

[Philly Kid]

They aren't leaving the blank concrete wall like that, are they?

[shadowbat2]

I believe it will be covered with granite veneer or something....which would kinda make it look like an 80's shopping mall

[Knight Hospitaller]

What a piece of ****, even when completed. A hideous "participation trophy" for getting killed by extreme negligence.

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by Philly Kid

They aren't leaving the blank concrete wall like that, are they?

Originally Posted by shadowbat2

I believe it will be covered with granite veneer or something....which would kinda make it look like an 80's shopping mall

They have a website with renderings.

http://www.june5memorial.org

[allovertown]

Originally Posted by Jayfar

They have a website with renderings.

http://www.june5memorial.org

It's so hideous we're going to need a June 5th Memorial Memorial to commemorate the many people who take their own lives upon seeing this piece of shit.

For the June 5th Memorial Memorial they're going to try and make it more dignified and less tacky so they're just going to throw the naked corpses in a pile here for the rats and pigeons to pick over. Should be an improvement.

[Human Scale]

What happened was sad and all but we can't just be plopping memorials everywhere when something relatively minor like this happens. New memorials would eat up the fabric of the city within a century.

Reminds me, in high school a boy died tragically and they planted a tree on school grounds. If they did that for every high school death, tragic and/or natural, they'd have a forest to maintain.

[City Wide]

Originally Posted by Human Scale

What happened was sad and all but we can't just be plopping memorials everywhere when something relatively minor like this happens. New memorials would eat up the fabric of the city within a century.

Reminds me, in high school a boy died tragically and they planted a tree on school grounds. If they did that for every high school death, tragic and/or natural, they'd have a forest to maintain.

The design is flat out weird, but maybe over time this 'memorial' will serve as a pocket park.
I think calling what happened here with the building collapse "something relatively minor" is really not fair; it was a significant and tragic event. But I agree with you about society's recent tendency to want to somehow publically remember every tragedy. It brings out the worst of a liberal society, the idea that everybody and everything is always equal.

[Knight Hospitaller]

^ I agree this is over the top, but there's no accounting for why some things affect people more than others. Still, some sort of marker would've sufficed, perhaps amidst trees and benches -- something that would have attracted the living and brought beauty to a place of tragedy. Instead we get something that will be ugly, cold and dead. A shinier, tidier, neon accented pile of rubble. Not a fitting tribute even if one thinks it's called for.

[christof]

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

^ I agree this is over the top, but there's no accounting for why some things affect people more than others. Still, some sort of marker would've sufficed, perhaps amidst trees and benches -- something that would have attracted the living and brought beauty to a place of tragedy. Instead we get something that will be ugly, cold and dead. A shinier, tidier, neon accented pile of rubble. Not a fitting tribute even if one thinks it's called for.

If it was you or I, no memorial would be built. If you are the estranged daughter of then city treasurer, then you get a memorial.