Future Canadian Transit Maps

[Rico Rommheim]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

^ HA wtf is that? A dozen new lines to nowhere? With stations every 5 metres?

[FFX-ME]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

So if Hamilton doesn't follow through with all the lines it will end up with something kinda BLA ?

It is also a shortsighted name in the sense that if they wish to expand the system in the future would it become BLASTER?

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

That TTC map is outdated, it doesn't have the Scarborough subway on it.

The map I have up there matches the one on the TTC website:
https://www.ttc.ca/Subway/interactiv...ctive_map.jsp#

Isn't the Scarborough subway the blue line?

[someone123]

Here's part of Halifax's user-friendly bus system:


Source

[GreaterMontréal]

^ HA wtf is that? A dozen new lines to nowhere? With stations every 5 metres?

it's my mistake, bus stops llol

[Aylmer]

Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

^ HA wtf is that? A dozen new lines to nowhere? With stations every 5 metres?

No, it's the express bus network (frequent + limited-stop). Montreal is a great example of a city with a good frequent network but where the branding is nonexistent. We'd do better to highlight bus lines with 5-10 minute frequencies than to have well-indicated commuter train lines which only pass 6 times a day. Jarett Walker talks a lot about issues with mapping.

[GreaterMontréal]

branding is nonexistent

Montrealers know their bus network very well. The STM bus ridership is almost at 1 million trips per weekday. 1M trips for a population of 2M is excellent.

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by someone123

Here's part of Halifax's user-friendly bus system:


Source

How is this any different than what exists now?

[Aylmer]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

Montrealers know their bus network very well. The STM bus ridership is almost at 1 million trips per weekday. 1M trips for a population of 2M is excellent.

I know - I'm one of them!

I don't mean that the STM has no branding - I think it has one of the best (if not the best) branding amongst Canadian transit systems. I mean frequent network branding. If you look on a map, you'll have the express and rush hour buses indicated in bright red, but visually, there's no way to tell the Parc 80 from the Barclay 160 even though one of them runs every 5-10 minutes throughout the day and the other passes every half hour on a good day.

[GreaterMontréal]

http://www.stm.info/fr/infos/reseaux/bus/reseau-de-nuit

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[thegx]

St. Albert's extension of the Edmonton LRT

[Ontario1]

http://www.rideion.ca/

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by FFX-ME

It is also a shortsighted name in the sense that if they wish to expand the system in the future would it become BLASTER?

Pull an Ottawa and change the naming convention? (O-train is becoming the Trillium Line with the whole system being renamed the O-train I believe.)

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by thegx

St. Albert's extension of the Edmonton LRT

I've seen this before and I just don't understand it. The station locations just really bug me. I don't understand sprawly cities' habits of building rapid transit stations at the very edge of development. First of all, you have only one side you can use for catchment (at first) because the northern half is all farmland. Second of all, it just encourages more sprawl. Isn't the point of rapid transit to allow dense, urban communities to develop?

From an outsider's perspective, the logical station locations would have been:
Gervais/Hebert
Sir Winston Churchill
McKenney/Bellerose
Giroux/Boudreau

The spacing between all those streets is perfect: 1.6 km, allowing the 10 minute walking radii to touch, but not overlap, maximizing speed while maintaing convenience. Plus they're all major cross streets allowing for convenient feeder bus service, creating even more opportunities for urban corridors.

Again, this is just from looking at the city on google maps, but the station locations in the plan completely surprised me when I first saw it. Maybe sprawlier cities have different goals when it comes to rapid transit, but the whole vision just seems strange to me.

[eternallyme]

Why no extension to the west end in Montreal?

Also an east-west line along the northern part of the island (say, along the Henri-Bourassa corridor) might be worth looking into?

[SkahHigh]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

Why no extension to the west end in Montreal?

Also an east-west line along the northern part of the island (say, along the Henri-Bourassa corridor) might be worth looking into?

Not enough population density.

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

Why no extension to the west end in Montreal?

Also an east-west line along the northern part of the island (say, along the Henri-Bourassa corridor) might be worth looking into?

the West End is not dense enough, they will probably get a LRT in the future.

Henri-Bourassa will get a SRB, not a Metro Line.

[Alegan]

[QUOTE=FFX-ME;6859698]The closest thing we have to a phase 3 plan are the NCC's transit goals which do again focus more on the suburbs since most of the transit use comes from there I guess, although it would be great to have the Bank street subway.

^^^YES. I thought I was the only one fantasizing about a Bank street subway (or O'train LRT whatever..underground rapid transit of sorts). I've been out of the Ottawa loop for a few years but .. was this not part of the discussion when they planned the Landsdowne redevelopment? It seems like a bit of a critical connection.

[MTLskyline]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

Why no extension to the west end in Montreal?

Also an east-west line along the northern part of the island (say, along the Henri-Bourassa corridor) might be worth looking into?

Projet Montréal under Bergeron had proposed to extend the blue line by 4 stops to Montreal West. This extension is worthwhile, IMO, as the NDG/Cote-Saint-Luc/Hampstead area is a bit underserved.

Source of image (dead link): http://www.projetmontreal.org/files/...5018830_fr.pdf

Further than that doesn't make sense though.

Neither does extending it further into Longueuil along Roland-Therrien... It would be a waste of money to extend the Yellow line further than Old Longueuil.

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by FFX-ME

It is also a shortsighted name in the sense that if they wish to expand the system in the future would it become BLASTER?




The map I have up there matches the one on the TTC website:
https://www.ttc.ca/Subway/interactiv...ctive_map.jsp#

Isn't the Scarborough subway the blue line?

The scarborough subway will replace the Blue line with an extension of the green line, on a slightly different alignment.

the ttc hasn't updated the "future map" as it was created to highlight their reasoning behind changing the line names from "Bloor-danforth", "Yonge-University-Spadina", etc. to Line 1, Line 2, etc, as the amount of TTC lines was set to go from 4 to 7 in the coming years.

[SkahHigh]

Originally Posted by MTLskyline

Projet Montréal under Bergeron had proposed to extend the blue line by 4 stops to Montreal West. This extension is worthwhile, IMO, as the NDG/Cote-Saint-Luc/Hampstead area is a bit underserved.

Source of image (dead link): http://www.projetmontreal.org/files/...5018830_fr.pdf

Further than that doesn't make sense though.

Neither does extending it further into Longueuil along Roland-Therrien... It would be a waste of money to extend the Yellow line further than Old Longueuil.

Meh... NDG has the density, CSL it depends but Hampstead, fuck no.