Calgary Construction XXVI - Page 97

You Need A Thneed · #**1921** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 5:24 AM**

The top of crescent hill isn’t a particularly good spot for multi family. Despite being close to downtown, it’s not particularly easy to get downtown by walking or cycling. Not great for traffic access either.

There’s a lot of places that should be upzoned first.

milomilo · #**1922** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 5:34 AM**

An easily solved problem - just pave some paths, build some new ones and some steps. And who cares? Just upzone it and let people build if they want.

accord1999 · #**1923** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 6:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by Fatcat loser

Every one of those single-family homes would be gone faster than the demolition dust can settle.

To do that, you would have to massively overpay, especially considering many of the owners are already rich. To get a good sized block would probably cost $75-100M based on current assessed land value, unless you were willing to wait decades. And even then, you might get outbid by private individuals who are trying to get lots to combine for their mansion.

Deepstar · #**1924** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 8:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by speedog

Five posts in and you're revealing yourself to be quite an angry person. What did the world do to piss you off so much?

5 posts in and he’s added more to the thread than you have ever added. He’s revived a thread that hasn’t had any life in it for a month.

Deepstar · #**1925** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 8:31 AM**

You both couldn’t be more wrong. You can easily do multi family in Crescent Heights. I guess you don’t get downtown much, as thousands of people walk and cycle downtown every day from that area.

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Originally Posted by You Need A Thneed

The top of crescent hill isn’t a particularly good spot for multi family. Despite being close to downtown, it’s not particularly easy to get downtown by walking or cycling. Not great for traffic access either.

There’s a lot of places that should be upzoned first.

You don’t need a whole block to do a multi family development. He wasn’t suggesting a re-create if East Village, all he suggested was putting up multi family developments along Crescent Road. Two of any large houses can be taken out to put a 30 unit building up easily. With the kind of use you would get from Crescent Road the units would be worth a lot of money. It’s not rocket science.

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Originally Posted by accord1999

To do that, you would have to massively overpay, especially considering many of the owners are already rich. To get a good sized block would probably cost $75-100M based on current assessed land value, unless you were willing to wait decades. And even then, you might get outbid by private individuals who are trying to get lots to combine for their mansion.

speedog · #**1926** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 2:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Deepstar

5 posts in and he’s added more to the thread than you have ever added. He’s revived a thread that hasn’t had any life in it for a month.

Funny, one could say the same of you if not even more.

topdog · #**1927** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 5:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by speedog

Funny, one could say the same of you if not even more.

The same could be said for both of you, the difference is you’re the one always whining about people not contributing enough, which makes your posts all the more ironic.

Daemon · #**1928** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 10:52 PM**

Daemon · #**1929** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 10:54 PM**

Daemon · #**1930** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 10:57 PM**

rotten42 · #**1931** Posted **Jul 16, 2018, 1:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fatcat loser

People can still have their mansions, but it’s better if said mansions are out in Springbank or some place where he land won’t be wasted. Crescent Hill is very valuable land, far too valuable to be wasted on massive houses that are barely occupied.

It doesn't work that way. If you have the money then you can build there. You know, sometimes life isn't fair. You should go have some cookies and milk.

Working in the design industry the thing you have to come to grips with really quit is that money and taste don't always go together.

rotten42 · #**1932** Posted **Jul 16, 2018, 1:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fatcat loser

Great answer, and thanks for supporting my argument.

All of those houses would be turned into multi-family developments in about 1.3 seconds if it was up to the market to decide. The only thing keeping those houses there is zoning.

Well thank god it isn't up to you then.

Tobyoby · #**1933** Posted **Jul 16, 2018, 4:10 PM**

Life shouldn't be ruled by how much money someone has. Look at the moron who's running the U.S. Lots of money but no brains.

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Originally Posted by rotten42

It doesn't work that way. If you have the money then you can build there. You know, sometimes life isn't fair. You should go have some cookies and milk.

Working in the design industry the thing you have to come to grips with really quit is that money and taste don't always go together.

DizzyEdge · #**1934** Posted **Jul 16, 2018, 7:06 PM**

I don't really have a problem with these houses, it's not really any different than the celebrated 100 yr old mansions in Mt Royal. Sure the styling might seem less impressive, but Calgarians might think differently in 75 yrs.

You Need A Thneed · #**1935** Posted **Jul 16, 2018, 9:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Deepstar

You both couldn’t be more wrong. You can easily do multi family in Crescent Heights. I guess you don’t get downtown much, as thousands of people walk and cycle downtown every day from that area.

You don’t need a whole block to do a multi family development. He wasn’t suggesting a re-create if East Village, all he suggested was putting up multi family developments along Crescent Road. Two of any large houses can be taken out to put a 30 unit building up easily. With the kind of use you would get from Crescent Road the units would be worth a lot of money. It’s not rocket science.

I meant along the lines of, crescent hill isn’t urgently required for huge density increases that mass multi family conversion would create. In that there are two natural barriers between it and the heart of the city (the bluff and the river). As long as we don’t want too many more bridges across the river, we should stick to developing more density where those natural barriers already have solutions.

SteveP · #**1936** Posted **Jul 17, 2018, 3:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by topdog

the same could be said for both of you, the difference is you’re the one always whining about people not contributing enough, which makes your posts all the more ironic.

x2

SteveP · #**1937** Posted **Jul 17, 2018, 3:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by rotten42

It doesn't work that way. If you have the money then you can build there. You know, sometimes life isn't fair. You should go have some cookies and milk.

Working in the design industry the thing you have to come to grips with really quit is that money and taste don't always go together.

Fatcat has a legitimate point .