852 Bank St | 17 m | 4 fl | U/C

[rocketphish]

Canderel Realties is proposing to demolish the existing one (1) and two (2) storey automobile service centre and associated surface parking lot, and construct a two (2) storey commercial building with a maximum height of 9.1 metres. The proposed building is to include 1,068 square metres of gross floor area (GFA) spread over approximately four (4) commercial tenants. Approximately three (3) retail tenants are proposed at ground level, with a potential restaurant use with an associated patio on the second floor.

Development application:
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/...appId=__97879M

Canderel's project page:
http://canderel.com/current-projects/852-bank-street

Streetview:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.40161...4g!2e0!6m1!1e1

[rocketphish]

City planners recommend Glebe development, despite oppositon

Carys Mills, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: September 16, 2014, Last Updated: September 16, 2014 7:50 PM EDT



A two-storey Glebe retail development including a restaurant patio should be allowed to go ahead despite opposition from residents, according to city planners.

The proposed development at 852 Bank St., now an automobile service station at Fifth Avenue, will be considered by the city’s planning committee next Tuesday.

Most of the opposition to the plans — heard among 31 public responses, at community meetings and in discussions with the Glebe Community Association — stem from no on-site parking being proposed, the patio, and concerns about disruption in the nearby residential area, according to a report going to the committee.

But the report says city planners disagree with the concerned residents about the four-unit proposal for the site, which is close to Lansdowne, and agree with the developer that providing 40 to 60 parking spaces required by the zoning bylaw would be “impractical.”

“Staff are of the opinion that the proposal makes a positive contribution to the street and presents a clear improvement in urban design and livability over the existing automobile service station use,” says the report.

City staff are recommending the developer, Canderel, receive a zoning bylaw amendment to allow aspects of the plan involving parking, the patio and loading area.

The report notes that Canderel has made some changes based on concerns, including the restaurant entrance being moved from Fifth Avenue to Bank Street, reducing the size of the second-floor patio, moving the building away from residential uses and adding on-site bike parking.

The same developer is also proposing a two-storey building at 890-900 Bank St., near Holmwood Avenue, which could include a grocery store.

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[rocketphish]

Glebe development decision pushed to October

Carys Mills, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: September 23, 2014, Last Updated: September 23, 2014 12:01 PM EDT

Decisions about a Glebe retail development, including a patio, have been pushed until next month so attempts can be made to alleviate parking concerns.

The city-staff recommended, two-storey proposal for 852 Bank St. was to be voted on Tuesday at planning committee. But Capital ward Coun. David Chernushenko told the committee more time is needed to work out parking concerns between the community and developer Canderel.

“The community and BIA have asked that they give us more details about parking and if, and why, it’s not feasible for them,” Chernushenko said.

City planners are recommending Canderel receive a zoning bylaw amendment to allow aspects of the plan involving parking, the patio and loading area. Despite some changes to address local worries, the lack of any onsite parking has continued to be a concern for some residents, as was heard in public responses and community meetings.

In a report to the committee, city planners agreed with the developer, saying the development would be a “clear improvement in urban design” and providing 40-60 parking spaces now required would be “impractical.”

Planning chair Coun. Peter Hume said the development will now be dealt with on Oct. 2, at the last planning meeting before the election.

“Get together and work this all out so you can come back to the committee and we’ll all be happy,” Hume said to a Canderel representative.

Hume said he’ll have questions next month about why the development, near Fifth Avenue, is low density and not “something more substantial.”

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[EdFromOttawa]

I bleeping hate the glebe.

[waterloowarrior]

staff report link
http://app05.ottawa.ca/sirepub/mtgvi...&itemid=320277

[umbria27]

Originally Posted by EdFromOttawa

I bleeping hate the glebe.

That's useful.

Care to discuss the proposal? I'd be inclined to give them the parking exemption on the premise that if their customers can't find parking, it's their loss. Unfortunately on street parking is shared with the rest of the local retailers, hence the BIA's concern. Is zoning requirement for 40 to 60 parking spaces wrong? I don't know. If so, fix the zoning. If the answer to that question isn't clear, then of course you are going to get these sort of disagreements.

My suggestion. Add 4 stories of condos on top of the 2 stories of retail and use the extra revenue to add more underground parking.

[waterloowarrior]

Ward Councillor is in favour

COMMENTS BY THE WARD COUNCILLOR
Councillor Chernushenko provided the following comments on this application:12
“Although parking pressures are severe in this area, and will become more so with the
full opening of Lansdowne retail activities, I do not believe onsite parking makes good
sense at this location, from a design or safety perspective. Options for adding more
parking in the vicinity must be pursued through other means. With regards to concerns
about noise and other disturbances from a second-floor patio, these will have to be
addressed through site plan controls."

[rocketphish]

Glebe retail development moves ahead, despite parking concerns

Carys Mills, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: October 2, 2014, Last Updated: October 2, 2014 11:47 AM EDT

A two-storey Glebe retail development got the go-ahead from planning committee on Thursday, despite continued concerns about the building not adding any parking to the area.

The zoning bylaw amendment, which was recommended by city planners, was due to be voted on in September. But Capital ward Coun. David Chernushenko asked to push the decision until this week to try to reach a solution between the community and Canderel, the developer of the Bank Street property.

“We are still agreeing to disagree … we weren’t able to come to a resolution,” Chernushenko said Thursday.

Chernushenko and Carolyn Mackenzie, from the Glebe Community Association, both told the committee they had concerns about the development not adding parking to the area since a previous city study found spots were lacking.

But Miguel Tremblay, of Fotenn planning consultants, representing Canderel, said that during two initial meetings with the community all issues except parking had been resolved. The reason Canderel isn’t building taller is because of the parking demand that would create, Tremblay said, adding the “modest” retail is intended to serve the neighbourhood and boost “walkability.”

“We recognize that the site is ill-suited to provide on-site parking,” he said.

In a report to the committee, city planners agreed, saying the development at 852 Bank St. would be a “clear improvement in urban design” and providing 40-60 parking spaces now required would be “impractical.”

The development, which includes at patio, still needs final permission from city council.

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[OTSkyline]

When there is too much parking, people complain...
When there is limited parking (which should encourage walking, biking and transit use), they STILL complain.. Never any way to please anyone.

I think it's a good thing that it has limited parking. Bank street is good because it's dense and vibrant, always people walking around and biking. If we start opening all this parking, we will end up with people driving there to go to 1 or 2 stores and then leaving right after.. And it will create eyesores (a-la-Kettleman's bagel).

Aren't they planning a parkade on Bank in the Glebe anyways?

[1overcosc]

On the topic of Kettleman's... I find it interesting how so many of the 'local institution restaurants'--Kettleman's, Hintonburger, Suzy Q, etc. are eyesores with parking lots separating them from the street.

[dommage]

The parking lot in front of SuzyQ doesn't actually belong to them. There are signs warning against parking there during the day. Their new location on Armstrong will be flush with the street. I suspect that days are numbered for that sort of on-site parking; land is too valuable.

[phil235]

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

When there is too much parking, people complain...
When there is limited parking (which should encourage walking, biking and transit use), they STILL complain.. Never any way to please anyone.

I think it's a good thing that it has limited parking. Bank street is good because it's dense and vibrant, always people walking around and biking. If we start opening all this parking, we will end up with people driving there to go to 1 or 2 stores and then leaving right after.. And it will create eyesores (a-la-Kettleman's bagel).

Aren't they planning a parkade on Bank in the Glebe anyways?

Yes, they are planning a big parkade two blocks away. One that includes more capacity than needed, according to the parking studies.

It is ridiculous to suggest that a small, two-storey retail building on a mainstreet needs to have parking underneath. Not sure what Chernushenko is thinking on this one.

[rocketphish]

This project has been rebooted and resubmitted to the City planning department. It also seems to have changed hands from Canderel to Curry Properties / TC United.

The newly proposed development consists of a four-storey 725 m² mixed use development located at the southwest corner of the intersection of Bank Street and 5th Avenue. The building will contain retail space on the ground floor, office space on the 2nd floor, residential units on the 3rd and 4th floors, and a roof-top patio, as well as underground parking. The Parking and site entrance will be provided along the west property line from Monk Street while landscaping will be located around the perimeter of the site.

Development application:
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/...appId=__01B54B

Renderings:








Site plan:

[J.OT13]

There we go. Perfect height/density for the area.

[zzptichka]

Love that feature when you can hang your laundry on the power line.

[OTSkyline]

It's kinda nice but two 3 desperate updates:

1- Bury hydro poles/wires
2- Switch those white (steel?) panels on top 2 floors to white bricks instead
3- Remove that ugly clock!! Urgh...

Then we're good

[passwordisnt123]

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

It's kinda nice but two 3 desperate updates:

1- Bury hydro poles/wires
2- Switch those white (steel?) panels on top 2 floors to white bricks instead
3- Remove that ugly clock!! Urgh...

Then we're good

I'm with you on the hydro poles, but what's wrong with the clock? Seems fine to me.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

It's kinda nice but two 3 desperate updates:

1- Bury hydro poles/wires
2- Switch those white (steel?) panels on top 2 floors to white bricks instead
3- Remove that ugly clock!! Urgh...

Then we're good

What's wrong with the clock?

[Vanier]

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

It's kinda nice but two 3 desperate updates:

1- Bury hydro poles/wires
2- Switch those white (steel?) panels on top 2 floors to white bricks instead
3- Remove that ugly clock!! Urgh...

Then we're good

There is a clock at that location now so, I guess it is for the sake of continuity?

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/852...218a5d!6m1!1e1

[Admiral Nelson]

I rather like public clocks.