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Old Posted Jun 16, 2011, 9:50 PM
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I'm glad that they actually closed the street today. I thought it was strange that they were doing it only within the park.
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The pedestrianization of Gore Park was a process initiated 3 years ago in an Aug 7 meeting of the COW. Since that time, buses have been relocated, parking meters have been installed, and businesses have closed (South Side) and relocated (Canada Trust). Why is this project, which would enhance our CBD and present our downtown core in a favourable light, now postponed until after the 2015 Games (7+ years into the 5-year Downtown Transportation Master Plan, incidentally)?

BB: It hasn't been postponed for any definite length of time. The Connaught was a big stumbling block because it is integral with the design, as those who worked on the plan would know. I would encourage those who are interested to actually visit the area, as I do many times a week and all all hours, to understand the problems that have to be resolved other than simple esthetics.
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Comment From Demi Tasse
The pedestrianization of Gore Park was a process initiated 3 years ago in an Aug 7 meeting of the COW. Since that time, buses have been relocated, parking meters have been installed, and businesses have closed (South Side) and relocated (Canada Trust). Why is this project, which would enhance our CBD and present our downtown core in a favourable light, now postponed until after the 2015 Games (7+ years into the 5-year Downtown Transportation Master Plan, incidentally)?

BB: It hasn't been postponed for any definite length of time. The Connaught was a big stumbling block because it is integral with the design, as those who worked on the plan would know. I would encourage those who are interested to actually visit the area, as I do many times a week and all all hours, to understand the problems that have to be resolved other than simple esthetics.
They could do the south side of King before the Connaught is done. The precedent is King William Street. King William was reconstructed about 3 or 4 years ago and they deliberately omitted the first block from James to Hughson because they did not know what was happening to the Lister building. It is being done now.
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The Cenotaph is currently getting some TLC.
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The City is considering naming the Promenade at Gore Park the "Queen Elizabeth II Diamond Jubilee Promenade".

So perhaps the City might go ahead with the promenade plan for this year? I know they won't do the whole Gore Park master plan until after the 2015 Pan Am Games, stupid idea.

Why is it okay to have the renovation of AGH before the World Cycling championship but not for the Gore Park before Pan Am? (the AGH went behind schedule anyways so construction wasn't done until after the Cycling championship)
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What year is it? The games are 3+ years away. Why are they waiting? Is it a money thing? Gawwwd the City's so lame!
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Was just in Gore Park the other day, and as I have said before, it is amazing how much more dead it feels with the buses gone.
You just don't see as many people walking around that stretch of the downtown anymore, and it has a slight empty feel to it now, even though it was the middle of a workday.
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True...however, that should change once the City gets its arse in gear and sets their plan in motion.

Personally, I'd rather it be empty than full of idling buses and whatnot.
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I agree ultimately with removing buses, but that was putting the cart before the horse. The real problem with gore park isn't the buses or the design of the park, it's the highway running through it. It can't be a pedestrian oriented area if there's a fence in the middle of the street. The city is attempting to fix the problem with aesthetic improvements when the core use of the area has to change. As long as through traffic is the priority, you won't see much improvement in Gore Park.
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King Street/ Highway 8 has as much to do with the current plight of Gore Park as the buses did. It's the same road that was there when Gore Park was in its heydey from the 1950's right throughout the 80's.

There needs to be a reason to draw people to the area, to make it a destination once again. The decline in retail and entertainment business is directly related to the decline in commercial activity. The Spec pulled out of the core for its Frid Street office, Stelco office staff we relocated to the plant site, and the banks moved their offices to cheaper suburban commercial campuses. The recessions in 82 and 90 further decimated private commercial businesses in the core. At the same time, suburban lifestyle was highly desirable at that time, and the urban lifestyle fell out of favour.
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Pilot project to close south leg of King St. E.

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...ng-this-summer

The city wants residents to do a lot more walking downtown this summer.

Hamilton plans to implement a pedestrian-friendly initiative at Gore Park by closing the south leg of King Street East between James and Hughson streets to traffic for a couple of months.

The pilot project, which would run in either June or July through to August, is a test run for the proposed promenade in the city’s Gore Master Plan, which includes the concept of raising the roadway between the park and the storefront sidewalk along the south edge of King.

“What we’re trying to do is simulate a pedestrian space that blends with the park … We’re providing a seamless connection between the park and the businesses between James and Hughson,” the city’s acting manager of landscape architectural services Steve Barnhart said.

In a report going to the public works committee Monday, staff recommended building a permanent raised, concrete crosswalk from the park to the sidewalk that would bring the recreational space closer to the road.

“We want to attract people from the office towers, the residents and, the tourists that will come and be in the downtown core,” Downtown Business Improvement Area (BIA) executive director Kathy Drewitt said, adding they are working with local businesses on preparing outdoor patios.

“We would like them to have that positive experience in the downtown.”

The pilot project would coincide with the BIA’s Gore Park Promenade, which will feature artisans, artists and vendors at the downtown site every Wednesday, Thursday and Friday from 11 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. from June 13 to Sept. 15.

Drewitt said she is hoping to have the pilot extended to September so activities at the site could continue for Supercrawl.

“If last year’s Promenade is any indication ... coupled with the closure from Hughson to James, my guess (is) it’ll be a hummer of a summer in the heart of our city,” Councillor Jason Farr said.

City staff proposed setting up large planters at the Hughson and James access points to block vehicles while allowing emergency and delivery vehicles to enter.

There will also be signs to limit vehicle access to the space and repairs to the road bed. The city is in discussions with the Downtown BIA about the best times to open up the strip to deliveries.

The committee of the whole asked staff to look at implementing the pedestrian initiative in 2008. At the time, they suggested doing a design study at the cost of $100,000.

But Barnhart said the total cost the city would not be determined until they closed the tendering process and awarded a contract to do the work.

Construction would take about five weeks, Drewitt said.
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well that's fine but to the city's pretence of improving walkability in this town I call April Fool's.
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It's not a joke is it? That would be cruel...minor though this test flight is.
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Wait, why does the pedestrian area only go to Hughson? Why not to John?
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That the naming of the newly created pedestrian promenade at Gore Park to commemorate the Diamond Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II

http://www.hamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyres/...__PED12092.pdf
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Is anyone aware of the reasoning behind moving the Sir. John A. Macdonald statue across the street in front of the Royal Connaught?

Seems like a very costly undertaking.

I am reminded of the planning meeting I attended for the John/Rebecca park.
The City planners had spent 4 months researching the project to create 3 propoped park designs. All of the proposals included the land now occupied by LuLus Shwarma and Club Seventy Seven, to have the buildings cleared and the space incorporated into the design. Four months spent planning and the City does not even have ownership of these properties.

Unless Johnny is just going to walk over to the Connaught?
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John/Rebecca Park

Wow. Thanks so much for bringing that up. I had no idea their plan was to demo the existing buildings on that site! Classic idiocy there. One of the few blocks in that area with actual buildings on it and they want to tear them down to build a park. Well, that's just not going to happen. One of the buildings is quite old and attractive and they'd be foolish to do it.
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I think you've missed something fist..The issue is the time and taxpayer dollars spent on planning for the John/Rebecca park. The City does not own the two properties occupied by the buildings. The Proposed designs were created without the owners knowledge. With this type of planning, we'll never see a park on that site. I think the same same crew is responsible for the "preferred" Gore "master plan".

Perhaps you have some knowledge, of the statue?
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