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Old Posted Oct 21, 2018, 7:15 PM
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Vancouver - the City that Had Too Much Money (bloomberg)

The City That Had Too Much Money

interesting article about chinese capital in vancouver.

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It’s a product of one of the largest financial flows of the 21st century: The money being frenetically shuffled by millions of wealthy Chinese into safe assets abroad, in defiance of their country’s capital controls. Since mid-2014, capital flight from China may have totaled as much as $800 billion, according to estimates from the Institute of International Finance.

In Vancouver, the tidal wave has wrought a dramatic economic, demographic, and physical transformation. Alberni Street, a formerly dowdy downtown thoroughfare, has in the past decade welcomed a two-level Prada boutique with a black marble facade, one of the largest Rolex showrooms in North America, and a 62-story tower with a five-star Shangri-La hotel. All have Mandarin-speaking staff. In May, Rolls-Royce chose Vancouver to unveil its first sport utility vehicle, which starts at more than $300,000, hosting a Champagne reception at its sleek new local dealership in an upmarket neighborhood about two miles south of Alberni. Six sold on the first day—bound, perhaps, for the “car condo,” a kind of luxe garage with customizable suites that’s being built in a majority-Asian suburb. The units start at more than C$800,000, and the first batch recently sold out.

Much of the money coming in has been legitimately earned, if sometimes extricated by gray-market means. But officials say that a substantial proportion is the proceeds of corruption or crime, including the illegal sale of opiates such as fentanyl. With public anger rising over astronomical housing prices and an economy distorted by wealthy outsiders, British Columbia’s left-leaning government—elected last year on a platform focused on calming the real estate market—is building a global laboratory for policies meant to restrain the arrival of Chinese money. The province is hiking taxes, toughening transparency rules, and tightening oversight of casinos and financial institutions.

Change will be difficult and fraught. Vancouver has been closely connected to Asia since the late 19th century, when the first Chinese laborers arrived to help build the trans-Canada railway, and the city is proud of its record of integrating immigrants. Also, beyond real estate, Vancouver’s economic base is shallow. It’s not the business capital of western Canada—that’s Calgary—and it has few major corporate headquarters or large-scale manufacturing operations. “Asian capital has kept this economy alive, end of story,” says Ron Shon, a Chinese-Canadian venture capitalist who arrived as a teenager in the late 1960s. “You can see it in every aspect of our lives.”
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2018, 10:48 PM
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You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with denigrating Vancouver at every possible opportunity.
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So Vancouver is essentially the Miami of Canada. Interesting.
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You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with denigrating Vancouver at every possible opportunity.
Haha, yeah, it’s funny. Makes me chuckle every time I see him bring up Vancouver.
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Vancouver's economy is pretty mediocre and doesn't justify the housing costs. It is awful that investors can essentially hijack a city.
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Vancouver's economy is pretty mediocre and doesn't justify the housing costs. It is awful that investors can essentially hijack a city.
because canada pimped out its own province. they have no one to blame but ottawa.
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Ottawa`s 'look the other way' tax evasion policies and buy-a-passport scheme certainly didn't help but overwhelmingly it was a made-in-Vancouver problem. Successive provincial and city governments have gone out of their way to openly encourage house flipping from dirty Chinese money.


Real estate prices are so obscene compared to local incomes it could be a Monty Python sketch except the consequences for the city have been devastating. Social and economic stratification are the greatest in the country and has led to a rise of ethnic tensions. It's resulted in the destruction of literaly tens off thousands of homes often heritage ones to be replaced by more single family homes with the right Feng Shui but left completely empty. Vancouver has a rental vacancy rate of less than 1% but perversly 40,000 empty housing units.


It has also killed small business as many tony areas have vacant store fronts because they can't get the people to work there and are in populated areas but now have no customers because no one lives in the neighbourhood. All of this has been sanctioned by the city in it's desire to be 'world class' and live on dirty money because the local economy is not dynamic. No where in BC has a top 25 TSX headquarters and the city has almost no manufacturing.
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It's terrible and all, but there's a part of me that thinks its kind of neat that Canada managed to spite and exploit the People's Republic like that.

The money needs to be channeled into banks and securities and productive commercial ventures instead of real estate assets and spread out over the rest of the country. That would solve most of the problems.
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Ottawa`s 'look the other way' tax evasion policies and buy-a-passport scheme certainly didn't help but overwhelmingly it was a made-in-Vancouver problem. Successive provincial and city governments have gone out of their way to openly encourage house flipping from dirty Chinese money.


Real estate prices are so obscene compared to local incomes it could be a Monty Python sketch except the consequences for the city have been devastating. Social and economic stratification are the greatest in the country and has led to a rise of ethnic tensions. It's resulted in the destruction of literaly tens off thousands of homes often heritage ones to be replaced by more single family homes with the right Feng Shui but left completely empty. Vancouver has a rental vacancy rate of less than 1% but perversly 40,000 empty housing units.


It has also killed small business as many tony areas have vacant store fronts because they can't get the people to work there and are in populated areas but now have no customers because no one lives in the neighbourhood. All of this has been sanctioned by the city in it's desire to be 'world class' and live on dirty money because the local economy is not dynamic. No where in BC has a top 25 TSX headquarters and the city has almost no manufacturing.

It has great dim sums though.
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You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with denigrating Vancouver at every possible opportunity.
I am interested in the juxtapositions and hypocrisies of global capitalism, which seem nowhere more evident than in Vancouver.

https://twitter.com/mortimer_1/statu...88166589165568
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I am interested in the juxtapositions and hypocrisies of global capitalism, which seem nowhere more evident than in Vancouver.

https://twitter.com/mortimer_1/statu...88166589165568


Oh yeah. It makes New York look like a podunk clean whistle don't it?

Dc, you crack me up man. Go write a book.
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So Vancouver is essentially the Miami of Canada. Interesting.
It's like Miami without the party. Beautiful city though! And yes, the economy, though better than a few years ago, is very much service/tourism based and entertainment industry as well.
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Oh yeah. It makes New York look like a podunk clean whistle don't it?

Dc, you crack me up man. Go write a book.
New York’s role in capitalism has been written about for a century.
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