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https://therealdeal.com/2017/10/11/j...ower-approved/

JDS to pay for flood protection if Two Bridges tower approved
Developer would pay for flood barrier at 80 Rutgers Slip






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JDS Development Group has pledged to help pay for a flood barrier at two neighboring buildings if the city approves its 77-story tower on Cherry Street.

The developer says it will foot the bill for a flood barrier at Two Bridges Tower at 80 Rutgers Slip and cover part of the cost for the barrier at a senior housing project at 82 Rutgers Slip, DNAinfo reported. JDS also committed to providing an emergency power backup system to 82 Rutgers Slip and would move mechanical equipment to the building’s second floor to guard against rushing floodwaters.

During Hurricane Sandy, the first floor of Two Bridges Tower flooded with up to four feet of water.

The resiliency upgrades, however, hinge on JDS getting approval for its mixed-income apartment tower at 247 Cherry Street. The project, along with two others proposed by the Starrett Corporation and a partnership between L&M Development Partners and CIM Group, have drawn fierce criticism from community groups.
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These NIMBY community boards are such a sham. Spreading their one-sided misinformation preying on the ignorance of the general public.

No one gets displaced in these developments unless you are a parking lot. Not one single building will be demolished. Not one single resident of those projects will be displaced.

Furthermore, these new developments will bring with them much needed retail for a retail starved area.

Putting height limits on these new towers will not prevent market rate apartments from encroaching into the area. It just means it will be more spread out, meaning more lots and possibly lowrises will be sacrificed that otherwise wouldn't need to. Instead of growing upwards, they would then need to grow wide.

Putting a height limit also (along with lower density which I am certain will also be part of their NIMBY demands) will only decrease the number of affordable units that will be built. For example, 20% affordable units of a 100 unit tower is 20 affordable units whereas 20% of a 200 unit tower is 40 units. Last time I checked 40 is greater 20. You want more affordable units? Then wouldn't it make sense to go for the higher number of units?

Of course, this common sense reasoning is lost on these CB's and the attendees who only want to shout down developers and reasonable city officials to "protest" their unhappiness with the high cost of living in the city and other gripes they may have, not knowing that by asking for a downzoning it will have exactly the very same effect they are complaining about.

Of course, in this city, ignorance will prevail so I have no doubt a rezoning unfortunately will go through.
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"...our community’s call for long-term protections on the waterfront. Our waterfront needs protections — now!..."

If a developer is willing to pay out of pocket to build flood protection systems, the community says no, if/when this area gets flooded again during another Sandy-esque storm, why should taxpayers rebuild this neighborhood?

They were offered protections after screaming and shouting about needing protections, and turned it down.

There need to be real life consequences for this level of stupidity.
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I don't think a rezoning will happen. These will get approved. The city likes infrastructure upgrades and generally the Department of City Planning is pro-development since the Great Bloomberg era and continues throughout DeBlasio. The mayor is even pro-development.

But suppose it doesn't happen, these towers, just suppose, I do agree with the concept that the existing proxy areas will just be bought up. The ones not owned by the NYCHA. These units are coming to the city on way or another. If not here, somewhere else. Demand is the force driving all of this.

We just have to be patient. Remember the battle of Sutton Place. The NIMBYS lost. Something will rise there, and would of been quicker had Gamma not had financing issues.
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The whole thing about shadows is mostly a joke. Some shade on the sunniest, warmer days especially is what is needed.... too much sun is dangerous without sunscreen protection, anyway. We're not talking about wall to wall towers anyway... just certain areas with a string of high rises. Balancing low and medium buildings with taller ones gives flexibility and better density value.. and most of these buildings aren't going to be mammoth hulks but will be narrower and less bulky for best aesthetic and practical situations. Those though that complain about the huge shadows being cast... well, they won't be noticeable year round... even those towers on Billionaire's Row where they talked so much about the shadows apparently will only be maximizing their prominence in late fall and winter and only a couple of hours per day at most if the information I read on them is correct.

And if they are willing to foot the bill for the post Sandy flood protection infrastructure... seriously, this Nimby namby pamby nonsense isn't going to get through.
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More bullshit.

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City pols propose bill to slow the rise of Two Bridges skyscrapers: The three proposed towers may be subject to increased public scrutiny

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The trio of skyscrapers proposed for Two Bridges on the Lower East Side is facing another hurdle: City Council member Margaret Chin and Manhattan Borough President Gale Brewer plan to submit a formal application to the Department of City Planning that would slow down development, according to Politico.

Development plans include a tower from JDS Development Group that would exceed 1,000 feet and hold 660 units, 165 of which would be affordable; a 1.1 million-square-foot project from L+M Development Partners and CIM Group, with 1,350 units; and Starrett Development’s 724-foot building with 765 rentals units, 191 of them affordable.

The City Planning Commission determined last year that these major development plans would constitute only a "minor modification" to the Two Bridges area, governed by an overarching zoning plan that expired 10 years ago. Current rules allow for towers of these sizes to be built with little community input.

But Chin and Brewer's application would make the developers go through a complete land use review process. It comes as the result of another bill, which passed in late October, that allows borough presidents, council members, and city agencies to waive certain procedural requirements before submitting their own zoning text amendment.

Chin believes that, if approved, this bill would allow for more community involvement in the land use process across the city. "It's my hope that this legislation would help Two Bridges residents and groups across the city work more closely with their elected officials,” she said in a statement to Politico. “I will continue to advocate for more ways to strengthen the community's voice in the land use process.”
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I've been following this crap. They'll try anything. It did wonders for the eastside residents. But doubtful they'll have much luck here.
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Gosh it sounds like your NIMBY's are almost worse than the ones out here in California!
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Gosh it sounds like your NIMBY's are almost worse than the ones out here in California!
The politicians are pandering to a crowd of disgruntled people. They think it will equal more votes. Which is stupid because most people don't care about this stuff.
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For what it's worth, I emailed Chin's office asking her to justify a bill that would reduce the amount of housing, when we desperately need more, and reduce the number of affordable housing units, something she claims to be a champion of.

If I get a response, I'll post it.
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For what it's worth, I emailed Chin's office asking her to justify a bill that would reduce the amount of housing, when we desperately need more, and reduce the number of affordable housing units, something she claims to be a champion of.

If I get a response, I'll post it.
Please do.
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