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Old Posted Dec 18, 2018, 5:23 PM
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Great pics...and then some nagging questions struck me. Why all these super-tall towers now? Are the super-rich of the world looking for new ways to stash their money (ie. super-expensive real estate)? (The answer to that is a clear YES, but do the rest of us really need to have that in our face every day?) Well at least when the "little people" are ready to torch the super-rich they'll know where to find them!

In the meantime, what, really, do these buildings add to the fabric of a city, at street level, where real people spend most of their days? In reality, very little.

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Old Posted Dec 20, 2018, 8:11 PM
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Great pics...and then some nagging questions struck me. Why all these super-tall towers now? Are the super-rich of the world looking for new ways to stash their money (ie. super-expensive real estate)? (The answer to that is a clear YES, but do the rest of us really need to have that in our face every day?) Well at least when the "little people" are ready to torch the super-rich they'll know where to find them!

In the meantime, what, really, do these buildings add to the fabric of a city, at street level, where real people spend most of their days? In reality, very little.

I find much of that nonsense, of course. But to answer your last question, when this building opens, you'll see what it offers at street level.
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I find much of that nonsense, of course. But to answer your last question, when this building opens, you'll see what it offers at street level.
They blend in rather well on the street level. You really don't notice them (other than the scaffolding) you're by a super tall building unless you look up. I'm no fan of these towers but at least they don't disrupt the streetscape.
     
     
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"Real people" can work most of their day in tall buildings. "Real people" may even live several floors up in a high rise apartment too. Such is the reality of life in city centers all over the world. Sorry, but your comment just sounds ridiculous to me.
     
     
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In the meantime, what, really, do these buildings add to the fabric of a city, at street level, where real people spend most of their days? In reality, very little. [/QUOTE]

That's really some drivel, as others have pointed out. Why all these supertalls? Because of supply and demand! The developers wouldn't take the huge risk if there wasn't the demand, just like just about every other development in the world. Is there some shady stuff going on? Of course, but that's certainly not limited to NYC or it's new supertalls! Anyway, I'm all for the development, generally very positive from an architectural perspective (111 East, CP Tower, 35 Hudson Yards, etc.). Can't wait to see the realization of the new CP South skyline along with Hudson Yards and Midtown East rezoning beginning with One Vanderbilt. Bring it on!
     
     
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We are all dumber for having read through that drivel.

Real people are incredibly thankful for these towers. The concept of supply and demand has resulted in a trickle down of thousands of jobs for thousands of people; from the cement truck drivers to steel mill workers, from glass fabricators to carpet manufacturers. All the way down to the janitors and doormen. Even solidifies future jobs like maintenance workers and HVAC service techs.

There’s your Econocomics 101 lesson for the day. Hope you give it some deeper thought next time.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2018, 1:40 AM
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They blend in rather well on the street level. You really don't notice them (other than the scaffolding) you're by a super tall building unless you look up.
I'm no fan of these towers but at least they don't disrupt the streetscape.
And most of them actually do have retail, and are part of the existing streetwall, which the city does so well. You really do have to look up to notice them from the street.



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So unlike what many were predicting Steinway never overtook this at any point of the two buildings rising has it?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2018, 2:17 AM
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So unlike what many were predicting Steinway never overtook this at any point of the two buildings rising has it?
And it never will. Both towers had some minor delays during construction, but that's not so unusual.
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2018, 2:21 AM
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The NYC skyline in its full glory.

With CPT adding further to its glory.


Credit: https://www.reddit.com/user/merg_flerg


And even than, its missing some sections. It goes on as you go further North. I just modified the original photo, but credit to Merg Fleg for this banging shot.


Here is the super high res version: https://i.redd.it/94cytfdurt421.jpg (Click me)


     
     
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2018, 2:56 PM
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We are all dumber for having read through that drivel.

Real people are incredibly thankful for these towers. The concept of supply and demand has resulted in a trickle down of thousands of jobs for thousands of people; from the cement truck drivers to steel mill workers, from glass fabricators to carpet manufacturers. All the way down to the janitors and doormen. Even solidifies future jobs like maintenance workers and HVAC service techs.

There’s your Econocomics 101 lesson for the day. Hope you give it some deeper thought next time.
Just to be clear, "trickle down" economics is something that the vast majority of economists believe is BS and is just a political slogan. I definitely wouldn't use that phrase if you're trying to explain why these buildings are good for the economy.
     
     
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Get rid of that blue crap on the windows already
I'm with that. Already tired of it.



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Great recent pics guys-thanks! Man this beauty is already head and shoulders above the rest (Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays man!).
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 25, 2018, 7:20 PM
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the thing with these central park towers is, as a pedestrian, you are literally past them in a few strides. if you dont look up you would not even know. it doesnt even matter if they have retail or not. the footprints are sssmmmaaallll. its not like a blockbusting block wide apt building or some old tower in the park development. really its just not at all something that is in any way a problem to be around or walk around.
     
     
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