Canada's Tallest U/C #11 - #30 - Page 54

LeftCoaster · #**1061** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 6:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

That has way more exterior precasting than Success.

It's also the proportions that make the building look good. It's slim and slender, the glass works by the lake, and the precast is used to good effect.

Do you even know what precast is?

caltrane74 · #**1062** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 6:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Do you even know what precast is?

You can see it running up the side of the building in this shot in white.

The precast is pre-formed concrete.

Precast concrete is a form of construction, where concrete is cast in a reusable mould or "form" which is then cured in a controlled environment, transported to the construction site and lifted into place.

craner · #**1063** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 6:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

from lxmoss at UT - Success Tower at Pinnacle Centre!!!!

I like it . . . I'll take it!

caltrane74 · #**1064** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:03 PM**

Yeah, who wouldn't; it's 165 meters of glass skyscraper.

And that's what we're about here, right?

LeftCoaster · #**1065** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

The precast is pre-formed concrete.

Precast concrete is a form of construction, where concrete is cast in a reusable mould or "form" which is then cured in a controlled environment, transported to the construction site and lifted into place.

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Precast concrete is a form of construction, where concrete is cast in a reusable mould or "form" which is then cured in a controlled environment, transported to the construction site and lifted into place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precast_concrete

Well done.

You do realize that none of those HK buildings utilize precast right?

caltrane74 · #**1066** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Well done.

You do realize that none of those HK buildings utilize precast right?

So the exteriors are poured concrete. Nice. - I thought the towers in Hong Kong had more class than that, but I guess I was wrong. - Must be where they put the poor people to live or something.

Anyways......you've done an excellent job of showing that Pinnacle Center (Success Tower) and the Towers in HK that Coldsrx posted, have very little in common.

From exterior detailing, forming, proportions, and glass. Pinnacle makes them look ridiculous!!

vegeta_skyline · #**1067** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:07 PM**

I don't know what planet your on Coldrsx but Success looks nothing like those HK towers.

In terms of whats been built in Canada the most similar developments would be Spire (universally beloved) & HVE3(universally ignored, but not hated & imo underrated).
Success falls in between those two, the only thing that's really 'wrong' with it is the podium and the first 2 buildings which I agree absolutely suck.
What makes Success better is less precast, a few subtle architectural elements, but most importantly the buildings proportions.

'Course your entitled to your own opinions on it.
I just don't see how you can compare a buildings that's about 90% glass to those concrete chimneys that feign as condo's in HK.

LeftCoaster · #**1068** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:14 PM**

Well the only thing they have in common, which cold was pointing out in the first place, is that they are tall and boring. So they share two quite striking similarities.

caltrane74 · #**1069** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Well the only thing they have in common, which cold was pointing out in the first place, is that they are tall and boring. So they share two quite striking similarities.

Boring is one thing.

Poured Exterior concrete is quite another. - 2 totally different plants man. - That's the kinda garbage they throw up in Dubai, Hong Kong, and Niagara Falls; you can't get away with that shit in Toronto.

WhipperSnapper · #**1070** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:33 PM**

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So the exteriors are poured concrete. Nice. - I thought the towers in Hong Kong had more class than that, but I guess I was wrong. - Must be where they put the poor people to live or something.

There must be a lot of poor then in British Columbia and Alberta buying condos.

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The real problem for me with Pinnacle Centre is it's rather dank podium levels. Not very inviting to me - everything just seems too big and overscaled.

The arcade is dank and inviting as usual but, IMO, the worst part of the podium is the huge void create by the driveway. I really don't see anything too big or overscaled about the podium. (in comparison to MLS, for example)

LeftCoaster · #**1071** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

Boring is one thing.

Poured Exterior concrete is quite another. - 2 totally different plants man. - That's the kinda garbage they throw up in Dubai, Hong Kong, and Niagara Falls; you can't get away with that shit in Toronto.

Toronto is full of CIP concrete... do you ever have a clue what you are talking about?

caltrane74 · #**1072** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:35 PM**

oh, goodlookin' you got jokes man.

WhipperSnapper · #**1073** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:44 PM**

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Toronto is full of CIP concrete

As a finish on a highrise?

caltrane74 · #**1074** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:46 PM**

He doesn't know what he's talking about. Don't worry with him.

Anyways..

confusion at www.urbantoronto.ca

Murano no exterior concrete or precast concrete.....

WhipperSnapper · #**1075** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 7:53 PM**

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He doesn't know what he's talking about.

Not sure you do either. There are very few pre-cast concrete wall panels being used on highrises outside of Toronto. The concrete on Vancouver's condos is almost entirely cast in place.

caltrane74 · #**1076** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 8:24 PM**

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Not sure you do either. There are very few pre-cast concrete wall panels being used on highrises outside of Toronto. The concrete on Vancouver's condos is almost entirely cast in place.

Oh well, then I guess you'll have to call it even old man.

No point running in place on the same shit.

caltrane74 · #**1077** Posted **Mar 18, 2009, 9:52 PM**

Another shot of Murano!! - from dt toronto geek at www.urbantoronto.ca

LeftCoaster · #**1078** Posted **Mar 19, 2009, 12:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sacamano

As a finish on a highrise?

Yeah you see quite a bit of it as painted concrete finishes on the exterior of a condo, especially in older buildings. I wouldn't exactly call it an architectural finish but there is exposed cast in place concrete in many new and old projects across the city. Even look at the photo ol' cally here posted just above and you can see a few vertical bands of exposed CIP.

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

He doesn't know what he's talking about. Don't worry with him.

Are you kidding me Caltrane? I work in the industry and spend my entire day mired in the technical aspects of building while you spend you day oogling the latest lakefront picture of Toronto. Christ, you tried to paraphrased wikipedia earlier today and tried to pass the info off as you own. You are a glorified civic cheerleader.

And it's "dont worry about him"... get your idioms correct.

WhipperSnapper · #**1079** Posted **Mar 19, 2009, 2:27 AM**

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Yeah you see quite a bit of it as painted concrete finishes on the exterior of a condo, especially in older buildings.

Forgot about the cast in place sheltered balconies on the many, many apartment blocks but, otherwise, most of the concrete facades from the seventies onward are made of pre-cast concrete

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Even look at the photo ol' cally here posted just above and you can see a few vertical bands of exposed CIP.

It's all pre-cast concrete, EIFS, or alunimum spandrel.

vegeta_skyline · #**1080** Posted **Mar 19, 2009, 2:49 AM**

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Even look at the photo ol' cally here posted just above and you can see a few vertical bands of exposed CIP.

For someone who works in the industry you sure seem to have a hard time identifying the material used. Where exactly do you see these 'vertical bands' of CIP concrete on any recently finished building in photos that caltrane has posted?