NEW YORK | One57 (Carnegie 57) | 1,005 FT | 75 FLOORS

[N830MH]

I was wondering how is the constructions doing so far? Is they are already in progress to continued being built more? I knows there is no constructions elevator to be installed it yet. Let's keep steady during the constructions.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by STR

Eh. I might have hidden it as, honestly, it's not that nice of a building. I think people just have a thing for it because it's different.

Funny, most people love it. But everyone has different taste. Of all the proposed new NY towers, its the one the fits the City best. Still, I've seen your placement of if in the proper Tower Verre thread. Makes me want to see it built all the more.

The Carnegie 57 is one that I think more people will appriciate once it starts to take shape.

[Boss-ton]

Originally Posted by Troubadour

It seems natural that the angled face oriented toward the Park will have some sort of additional styling beyond the regular facade. My preference would be some kind of linear, symmetrical golden pattern, but vertical slats would be fine. Here are some crudely-rendered ideas (I used MS Paint, sorry I'm not an artist) - although I have no clue what the actual designers intend for the face. I borrowed a small fragment of STR's render for these, hopefully it's cool. It's crudity means you have to use your imagination for how it might look good in reality.


Carnegie 57 render a by troubadour1, on Flickr


Carnegie 57 render b by troubadour1, on Flickr


Carnegie 57 render c by troubadour1, on Flickr


Carnegie 57 render d by troubadour1, on Flickr

its gonna look like this

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by NYguy

Funny, most people love it. But everyone has different taste. Of all the proposed new NY towers, its the one the fits the City best. Still, I've seen your placement of if in the proper Tower Verre thread. Makes me want to see it built all the more.

The Carnegie 57 is one that I think more people will appriciate once it starts to take shape.

Between the two I think I like Tower Verre better, but Carnegie 57, though it's not perfect, has a certain charm and definitely height that will make a strong mark on the area, especially as seen from Central Park.

[Troubadour]

Originally Posted by Boss-ton

its gonna look like this

Somehow I missed that, even though I've been tracking this building forever. But great!

[CoolCzech]

Originally Posted by Troubadour

Somehow I missed that, even though I've been tracking this building forever. But great!

I'm not quite sure why everyone thinks this building looks so "great;" I find the shape rather odd and that giant grating (or whatever it is) at the top just too industrial. But hey, a supertall in this economy? I'll take it!

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by CoolCzech

I find the shape rather odd and that giant grating (or whatever it is) at the top just too industrial.

Gary Barnett said it would be a very "unusual" building. It's slightly that, but I expected something a little more "odd". That wouldn't have necessarily been a bad thing. Odd can sometimes be good, especially in a city where people complain about the skysrapers being the "same old thing".

[BStyles]

Originally Posted by CoolCzech

that giant grating (or whatever it is) at the top just too industrial.

Then again, the man bearing that last name made his fortune in that field.

[NYguy]

JANUARY 28, 2011

[RobertWalpole]

I walked by here last night and was impressed with the progress.

Hopefully, demolition will start soon on 221-225 W 57th.

[Romanwtc]

this is looking really good!
isnt the lower part of the building suppose to start rounding the roof?
like the curve?

[RoldanTTLB]

It has 1 or 2 more floors to the first setback (and round corner). Should be showing up soon. Wonder if the construction elevator is up on 58th st yet. That'll speed things up.

[Capsule F]

Is it me or do Americans take so F'ING long to build skyscrapers. Its amazing, you see them start after and finish earlier in other countries.

[uaarkson]

Originally Posted by Capsule F

Is it me or do Americans take so F'ING long to build skyscrapers. Its amazing, you see them start after and finish earlier in other countries.

Hmm? There have been like 10 brand new skyscrapers built in NYC over the past year. Carnegie 57 is moving slowly because the developer is trying to get traditional financing for it. It'll speed up soon.

[Obey]

Originally Posted by Capsule F

Is it me or do Americans take so F'ING long to build skyscrapers. Its amazing, you see them start after and finish earlier in other countries.

It doesn't really matter as long as they get built.

[Don098]

Originally Posted by Capsule F

Is it me or do Americans take so F'ING long to build skyscrapers. Its amazing, you see them start after and finish earlier in other countries.

That's because we build them responsibly, unlike some other completely unsustainable "destinations" (I refuse to call Dubai a legitimate city) Americans actually use their skyscrapers to hold people, not as pathetic trophies that are supposed to proclaim their country's "arrival" into modern society. Until Dubai and SE Asia grow real, diversified, and sustainable economies, their skyscrapers will be nothing but premature ejaculations to me. We live in a post-modern society along with Europe. Everyone else is still playing catch-up to be modern.

[yankeesfan1000]

Originally Posted by Capsule F

Is it me or do Americans take so F'ING long to build skyscrapers. Its amazing, you see them start after and finish earlier in other countries.

Not to pile it on here, but yes the developer is looking to secure traditional financing, but it's also in the middle of winter here and we've gotten a huge amount of snow this winter here in NY which slows things down, look at WTC1 for example. Once the weather starts to get better, and as it gets narrower, this should speed up.

[jigglysquishy]

Originally Posted by Don098

That's because we build them responsibly, unlike some other completely unsustainable "destinations" (I refuse to call Dubai a legitimate city) Americans actually use their skyscrapers to hold people, not as pathetic trophies that are supposed to proclaim their country's "arrival" into modern society. Until Dubai and SE Asia grow real, diversified, and sustainable economies, their skyscrapers will be nothing but premature ejaculations to me. We live in a post-modern society along with Europe. Everyone else is still playing catch-up to be modern.

I wouldn't go so far as to say Dubai is "not a city", but it certainly uses its skyscrapers purely as trophies.

And its not just USA and Europe. Canada, Australia, Japan, South Korea and China are all on our level too.

[NYguy]

Thank you all for that interlude. But please keep the discussion primarily on the Carnegie 57, and not on what's being built and how around the world.

[tdawg]

I think our 'scrapers go up pretty quick. I feel that way about Canada, though. Wasn't Trump Toronto proposed before Trump Chicago? Towers in Toronto seem to take a long time to completion.