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Does anyone know what the current cost of urban condo/apartments is going in the HBG metro? I hav'nt really seen any major condo activity yet, but maybe I'm just out of touch
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Surprisingly, there aren't many condos around here yet. As far as urban apts., it all depends on where you want to live, as this will be a huge difference in what price you will pay.

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Council knocks down plan for condos

Battle over site of mansions appears headed for court

Tuesday, December 20, 2005
BY JOHN LUCIEW
Of The Patriot-News
In the battle between old mansions and new condos on Harrisburg's North Front Street, the City Council last night sided with three 1920s-era houses.

The council unanimously rejected plans to replace the houses with a large luxury condominium building.

But the matter is far from settled.

A spokesman for interior-designer-turned-developer Mary Knackstedt said she would continue pressing the city for permits to demolish the houses while considering appealing to Dauphin County Court the council's rejection of the project.

"She still wants to develop that piece of property," said James Frey, an engineer who represented Knackstedt at last night's council meeting.

Knackstedt could not be reached for comment.

The council members appeared resigned, even as they voted, that they would not have the final word.

"She will take up her issue with the city in the court system," said Council Vice President Linda Thompson.

The council previously granted Knackstedt two delays, totaling 60 days, to refine her project and alter designs so they might have a better chance of winning approval.

But Frey said his design team didn't want to spend time reworking the project until the matter of demolition permits for the three brick and stone houses Knackstedt owns between 2901 and 2917 N. Front St. was settled.

Knackstedt wants to build on the site a five-story, $32 million condominium building with views of the Susquehanna River.

"Until we get the demolition permits resolved, we don't know how much land we have to work with," Frey said. "We didn't advise doing any more designs until this issue was settled."

The city issued demolition permits for the houses on April 7 but revoked them two weeks later. Knackstedt appealed, prompting a hearing before a city appeals board in October. A decision has yet to be issued.

Knackstedt has submitted a second demolition application, but the city has said it will not consider it until the appeal of the first application is ruled upon or dropped.

With no changes having been made to Knackstedt's condo plans, the council members last night said they had little choice but to reject the project. The board denied both the preliminary and final development plans for the condo building as well as a subdivision plan for the lots.

The reasons cited for the denial included traffic concerns, zoning problems, lack of landscaping and lighting plans, and the city's position that a large condo building would not be in keeping with the charter and size of the surrounding buildings.

Diane McCormick, the president of the Historic Harrisburg Association, which opposes the project, said her group "will remain involved in the process."

Project opponents say Harrisburg would lose three irreplaceable mansions along Front Street and residents would lose their river views and have to contend with more traffic.

As proposed, Knackstedt's project would stand 57 feet high on a 23,445-square-foot footprint, with underground parking for 146 cars.

Knackstedt also has listed her block of prime riverfront land for sale, asking for $3.5 million.

Her real estate adviser has said he has received interest in the properties, mostly from out-of-town developers. But he added that most prospective buyers want the demolition permits resolved first.
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well, originally i was against this but now i think i've changed my mind. it's really not a bad deal as long as it doesn't set a precedent...and i hope it won't. i'd like to see more development towards DT, but this spot is right along the river and has its advantages. i think if Knackstedt is detered from building this, then other developers (especially the out of town types) will be discouraged from buying/building in the city. so i say give her the permits...but i realize that may not be popular with the preservationists.
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If memory serves, was'nt there a claim that the existing neighbors have a deed restriction (to preserve the existing building footprint) on the 3 mansions in question? Was'nt that going to be the court fight before the city reversed course and denied the demo permits?
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As for condos in general...I'd say Harrisburg is a bit behind the proverbial cue ball. Out in the Lehigh Valley, there are 5 major urban condo plans already well underway, and that's not including ones that are expected shortly.

However, many (but not all) of those plans are converting older buildings into condo complexes, such as the old Bethlehem Steel offices and some former hotels. I'm not sure if there are any buildings in 'da burg that would fit that requirement.
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^ i really liked The Residence project which was supposed to be a 25 story, residential-condo, retail, restaurant, and parking structure at 4th and market. it would have been Harrisburg's new tallest (120m+) until the project was cancelled. the site was sold to the university who intends to build another highrise structure...but i don't think it will be nearly as tall or elegant.

Reed has hinted that he has a laundry list of projects...maybe some condos are part of that
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I saw the rendering on the news and the place is HUGE!


GETTING IN THE GAME

Penn National submits application for slot machine parlor at racetrack

Saturday, December 24, 2005
BY CHARLES THOMPSON
Of The Patriot-News

Central Pennsylvania took a step toward getting its first casino this week, even if it was expected.

On Thursday, couriers for Penn National Gaming Inc. submitted a voluminous application for a slot machine parlor license to the Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board. Couriers carried more than 10 boxes full of paper work.

Under the state's slots gambling law, the company is virtually guaranteed a license for a slots parlor at its racetrack in East Hanover Twp. The law earmarks licenses for slots parlors at racetracks.

Renderings submitted with the application depict a Hollywood Casino featuring an Art Deco theater-like entrance. The words "at Penn National" almost appear to be an afterthought on the signs.

The casino, expected to open in the summer of 2007, would be one of 14 authorized to open around the state. Gov. Ed Rendell is counting on money from slots gaming to deliver school property tax cuts to homeowners.

The slots license applications are due Wednesday.

Penn National might not have the only casino in the midstate.

Chance Enterprises LLC, a local partnership, is expected to file an application to build a casino near Gettysburg. The proposed slots parlor in Straban Twp., Adams County, would not be attached to a racetrack.

Earlier this month, attorneys Jerome Finefrock and James Nettleton announced they would seek a license for a site in Lancaster.

Both groups will be vying for one of two licenses for free-standing casinos -- slots parlors that aren't based at racetracks -- outside of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.

Penn National spokesman Eric Schippers said the would-be rivals have had no impact on Penn National's plans.

He said company officials feel it is impossible to predict who will win the two at-large licenses. Penn National's philosophy has always been to "focus on our facilities and make them the best that we can," Schippers said.

State Gaming Control Board officials have said that they don't foresee issuing any licenses until late spring or early summer.

Penn National officials said this fall that they do not expect to start permanent construction until they have a license.

The company is building a temporary facility to continue its racing schedule once the existing grandstand is razed and the new facility starts to go up. But that site will not offer slots play, Schippers said.

He said that by waiting, the company could open with the full inventory of 2,000 slot machines planned for its opening and get the full benefit of its $212 million investment in the five-story, 365,000-square-foot facility.

Other first-phase amenities would include a food court with three restaurants, a fine dining restaurant, a sports bar and other entertainment, bar and lounge areas.

The company has estimated the facility would create 1,000 jobs.

Penn National's master plan for the site calls for the addition of a hotel and conference center, a larger live entertainment venue, retail outlets and more slots, but Schippers said the timing for all of those projects would be driven primarily by demand.

"We have 600 acres of land there," he said. "So we've got a tremendous opportunity and ability to expand as the market dictates."
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^ 1,000 new jobs....2,000 slot machines...$212 million investment... five-story building....365,000-square-foot facility...on 600 acres....adjacent to I-81.

this will definately compete with Cabela's in Berks County
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Oh yeah, no doubt! Who would've thought they would see the day where HBG becomes a tourist destination for gamblers too LOL
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Cabela's never turned out as well as predicted....(well, as it's supporters predicted). While I hav'nt seen any financial detail on the facility lately, the parking lot is seldom full.

Yeah, I liked the 4th & Market condo plan as well, but I guess there is more demand for parking than condos in 'da burg right now. :sigh:
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Here's a really good article the Patriot ran today that has a "year in review" of sorts:

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Area unemployment rate moves higher in November

Wednesday, December 28, 2005

The unemployment rate in the Harrisburg area rose to 4.2 percent in November, a jump from 3.8 percent in October.

Despite the increase, the rate was lower than the 4.4 percent jobless rate in November 2004.

The Harrisburg area -- Cumberland, Dauphin and Perry counties -- last month continued to have the fourth-lowest unemployment rate among the state's metropolitan statistical areas.

The lowest rate was 3.9 percent in the Lebanon area.

The unemployment rate in the State College area in November was 4 percent, and the rate in the Lancaster area was 4.1 percent.

The York-area rate was 4.5 percent.

The statewide unemployment rate in November was 5.1 percent and the national rate was 5 percent.

The Harrisburg area saw an increase of 700 jobs from October to November, to a total of 329,100. The total number of jobs is an increase of 2,900, or 0.9 percent, from November 2004.

The area experienced a drop of 300 jobs in goods-producing industries from October to November, all of that in construction and mining businesses.

The number of manufacturing jobs was unchanged from October to November, although the total of 24,500 jobs is down by 700 compared to last year.

Service industries saw an increase of 1,000 jobs from October through last month, most of that as retailers prepared for the holiday shopping season.

The average manufacturing wage in the Harrisburg area was $16.08 an hour in November, compared with the statewide average of $15.25. The average manufacturing work week was 40.3 hours, compared with 40.5 hours statewide.
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Fund drive for black center needs $100,000

Black center fund drive falls $100,000 short

Saturday, December 31, 2005
BY REGGIE SHEFFIELD
Of The Patriot-News

The task force behind the planned National African American Cultural Center in midtown Harrisburg is still well short of the $200,000 needed to secure a site.

Fred Clark, chairman of the task force developing the cultural center, said $100,000 is needed, but that he is confident the center will someday be a reality.

Organizers had said they needed $200,000 by Jan. 1 to make an initial payment to buy a building at North Third and Verbeke streets. They have a signed agreement to buy the building from the Historic Harrisburg Association for $600,000.

"It's a poor time to be trying to raise money, in view of the fact that it's Christmas, it's the holidays, it's the end of the year," Clark said.

"The board, the task force and the mayor are committed to seeing this through, and we remain hopeful that we can get the corporate community enthused and engaged with this project," Clark said.

Byron Quann, the CEO and president of the Whitaker Center for Science and the Arts, congratulated the task force members for their diligence in seeing the project through to fruition.

But Quann warned that "single-purpose museums can have trouble having broad appeal. There are a number of African-American museums around the country, and many of them struggle."

Plans for the center include a performing arts area, a bookstore, banquet facility and lounge. Organizers hoped it would open in 2007.

The museum design will incorporate the Furlow Building and Historic Harrisburg Association, across from the Broad Street Market. Plans call for the top five floors of the Furlow Building to be rented out.

The Whitaker Center is halfway through a two-year $10 million funding drive and has had financial struggles of its own. In 2004, Whitaker lost nearly $815,000.

The $52.7 million Whitaker Center, which opened in 1999, combines science and performing arts under one roof. The center has received more than 2.2 million visitors.
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NEWS INFORMATION FROM THE OFFICE OF MAYOR STEPHEN R. REED
City of Harrisburg
King City Government Center
Harrisburg, PA 17101-1678
Telephone: 717.255.3040
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28 December 2005

ALL INVITED TO M&T BANK HARRISBURG NEW YEAR’S EVE CELEBRATION IN HISTORIC MARKET SQUARE

Mayor Stephen R. Reed today invited residents and visitors from throughout the Capital Region to the M&T Bank Harrisburg New Year’s Eve Celebration in historic Market Square, set for Saturday, December 31, beginning at 9 p.m. The free family-oriented event celebrates the end of 2005 and the start of 2006, and features live musical performances, children’s theater and other enter- tainment, as well as an array of other events and activities, culminating with the Countdown to Midnight’s giant Strawberry Drop and the region’s largest holiday fireworks display.

Reed said the New Year’s Eve Celebration, which was initiated by the Mayor in 1988, has become the largest event of its type in the midstate.

Activities and music will take place on Market Square, in the atrium of the City Government Center, and at numerous other downtown locations. “Bring the whole family,” said the Mayor, “as activities are geared to both youngsters and adults.”

“We’re again looking forward to joining thousands of our friends and neighbors in ringing in the New Year downtown. The M&T Bank New Year’s Eve Celebration has grown into one of the region’s premier special events, contributing to both our sense of community as well as the region’s economy,” said M&T Bank Regional President Michael S. Murchie.

The Mayor said featured at this year’s event on the M&T Bank Countdown Stage will be live musical performances by the “Luv Gods” and “Life on Mercury.” This year’s celebration also features strolling entertainers such as jugglers and stiltwalkers, as well as noted midstate magician David Pepka. Inside the City Government Center, the M&T Bank Children’s Theater will feature performances by the popular Popcorn Hat Players performing their distinctive version of “Little Red Riding Hood” and “Aesop’s Fables Too.” Children’s entertainment activities will also include face painting and balloon arts.

Festivities will conclude with the Mayor’s Countdown to Midnight, live from Market Square, followed by the descent of the giant 15-ft. lighted Strawberry down the front of the Harrisburg Hilton Hotel. The event concludes with the region’s largest holiday fireworks display high above Market Square.

In addition to the city’s events and activities, Reed noted that many nearby downtown attractions and facilities will also be hosting special New Year’s Eve celebrations, including the New Holland Band at the Market Square Presbyterian Church, followed by their traditional “Muffins at Midnight” repast. Popular midstate party band “Pentagon” will be playing at the Harrisburg Hilton and Towers, and the dining room and lounge at the nearby Crowne Plaza Hotel will also be open. Continuous IMAX film showings are slated for the Whitaker Center for Science and the Arts, and the Popcorn Hat Players will be presenting performances throughout the day and evening. Advance registrations are required for the hotel packages.

The Mayor said the city, which plans and produces the event, is pleased to once again have M&T Bank as a partner and the title sponsor of the New Year’s Eve Celebration. Portions of the event, including the gala midnight fireworks display, will be broadcast live by WPMT Fox 43 and Citadel radio stations 105.7 The X, MIX 106.7 and RED 102.3. Additional support is provided by Ambassador Home Improvements, FastSigns, Harrisburg Hilton and Towers, Herbert, Rowland & Grubic, Inc., Pyramid Construction Services, Inc., The Quandel Group, Scotts Grille, Mesirow Financial, Subway Restaurants, RBC Dain Rauscher, and the Arthurs Lestrange Company.

Reed said Market Square will close at 9 a.m. on Saturday, December 31, to allow for the construction of staging and other event stands. Traffic will be detoured onto Market, 4th and Walnut Streets through Sunday afternoon, January 1st. Motorists are also advised that all vehicular access around Market Square will be shut down at 11:30 p.m. on New Year’s Eve, and will reopen after the fireworks display has concluded.

Parking for New Year’s Eve Celebration attendees is available at the city’s Market Square Garage(S.2nd and Chestnut Streets), and Locust Street Garage (3rd and Locust Streets) at the reduced Special Event Parking rate of only $2 per car. Parking in the Walnut Street Garage (3rd and Walnut Streets) is exclusively reserved for guests and patrons of the Harrisburg Hilton and Towers and the Whitaker Center for Science and the Arts. Free parking is available on City Island and on streets throughout the downtown.
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Happy New Years Dave, Spudmrg, harrisburger and any other 'burg forumers i am forgetting
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Thanks a lot, Chris, you too!

As expected, DT was pretty packed last night. I think Market Square was just a tiny bit more crowded last year, but I think the rain/sleet/snow mix that didn't end until 11 or so kept a few people indoors. The fireworks at midnight were amazing, and a GREAT time for sure!
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Some really cool developments in the paper today:
  • Tom Sawyer's Diner is scheduled to open May 1st on 2nd St. (this is in the grassy area in front of the 2nd St. Garage; the 50s diner cars are already in place and ready to be assembled). The project will be the largest outdoor complex in the DT area. The area will be fenced in and will host concerts and other entertainment. By day the diner will be family-oriented, by night it will cater to the 21+ crowd.
  • The New Orleans-themed "Quarter" will open in phases starting w/ Mardi Gras on Feb. 28 (this is on 2nd St. across from MARS). The 16,000 sq. ft. 4-story building will have a different theme in each level and will include a jazz club, pool hall, restaurant and rooftop deck w/ hot tubs.
  • The "Superclub" (will be located on the large empty lot on Cameron St. near Herr St.) is still on. Beryl Healy, who is behind the project, said it is coming along, but still no word on a proposed opening date.
The article also stated that DT is evolving w/ more and more bars/clubs geared to the 30+ crowd, which I am really excited about and have witnessed first hand. Even though I am only 27, I grow tired rather fast of the places geared toward the low-mid 21+ crowd. Oh and the article also stated that many bars and clubs are starting to build smoking areas b/c they see the state/local smoking ban on the horizon. Being a non-smoker and sick of reeking like smoke when I go out, I can't say I am saddened by that one!
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Just goes to show how fast our area is growing and also how regional we have become!

WEST SHORE SCHOOLS

Proposal aims to avoid crowding
Monday, January 02, 2006
BY JERRY L. GLEASON
Of The Patriot-News

The West Shore School District has a problem: The majority of students live in York County but the schools are in Cumberland County or near the Cumberland County line.

"Historically, that's where the people were, but it creates a problem in efficiently distributing our students among our schools," said Daniel W. Sheats, the district's director of special administrative services.

To correct the balance between students and buildings, the school district plans to realign its attendance boundaries beginning in the 2006-07 school year.

As a result of the realignment, some students might have to attend different schools next year.

"Our studies show that our current buildings have the capacity to house our current students and programs," Sheats said.

The West Shore district last changed its attendance boundaries in 1991.

Since then, the district has built three elementary schools and a middle school and has seen significant residential growth in some areas.

"We're growing but not at explosive rates," Sheats said. "Municipal officials tell us there will be more than 1,000 new residential units constructed over the next 10 years, and we have to take that into consideration.


"It's often difficult to get a handle on how development will impact our schools," he said.

"Town houses and condominiums historically don't generate the number of children that traditional housing does," he said.

Beginning this month, as part of its school boundary realignment study, the district will invite parents, students and residents to give feedback on the initial realignment draft proposal.

Committees of parents, teachers and administrators have been working on the proposal since October.

A draft of the proposal will be posted on the district Web site by the close of the business day Jan. 6, said Suzanne Tabachini, a district spokeswoman.

"One of the things we're looking to do is to balance the student populations as expeditiously as we can with our existing resources and to impact as few students as possible," Tabachini said.

"We want to provide the same educational opportunities to all our students, regardless of the school he or she attends."

Some schools are nearing capacity, while others can accommodate additional students, she said.

To make room for a larger-than-expected enrollment, the district might have to convert classrooms dedicated to art, music, special education or English as a second language classes into regular classrooms.

This could affect educational programs in a given building, Tabachini said.

A balanced student population among the district's 10 elementary schools, four middle schools and two high schools would mean equal educational opportunities in each building, she said.

"It is unlikely that all 16 schools will be impacted by the changes," Sheats said.

Newberry and Fishing Creek elementary schools, Crossroads Middle School and Cedar Cliff High School have growing capacity problems, Sheats said.

Fishing Creek and Newberry elementary schools are nearing capacity, but each school is within a few miles of Red Mill Elementary, which has available space.

The district could shift attendance numbers in those buildings.

The solution is not as simple at Crossroads and Cedar Cliff.

"It isn't simply a matter of moving a given number of students to a given building," Sheats said.

"We have to anticipate growth in the area where a given school is located and allow for an increase in student population."

Newberry and Fairview townships, which are in the Red Land High School attendance area, have experienced more residential growth than any other areas of the school district, he said.

The new attendance boundaries will remain in effect for at least five years.

"The only assurance we give families is that if a boundary line is changed, the change will remain in place for at least five years," Sheats said.

"That is the assurance that was given in 1991, when we did the last attendance boundary realignment," he said. "And that is the assurance we are giving people now. We have never told anyone that an attendance boundary will remain in place forever."

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Chocolate World upgrading:

http://www.pennlive.com/news/patriot...301.xml&coll=1

"...$5 million upgrade that will include the addition of three singing cows."

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Good news! I noticed today that they have finally begun clearing the site on Cameron St. where the "Superclub" will be.
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