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Old Posted Aug 23, 2016, 12:59 AM
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Nice update from Columbus Circle!
     
     
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God almighty, every time this shot is shown, it makes me remember just how awful every other building on that block is. How is it that the single most desirable block of real estate in the world is populated by such shit architecture?

Anyways, this tower is looking good, and it's just starting to become visible from the Hellgate bridge (Amtrak).
     
     
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You don't like the iconic short-rise apartment towers at Columbus Circle?
     
     
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If you're talking about the peach-colored one on the corner with the balconies and AC units hanging out...yeah I'm not a fan of it either but incredibly, it's landmarked. Go figure.

Meanwhile, you've got more ornate, more attractive buildings all over town, with no protection, getting demolished. It's fucked up.
     
     
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If you're talking about the peach-colored one on the corner with the balconies and AC units hanging out...yeah I'm not a fan of it either but incredibly, it's landmarked. Go figure.

Meanwhile, you've got more ornate, more attractive buildings all over town, with no protection, getting demolished. It's fucked up.
How the fuck is it landmarked?

In what capacity is that excrementicious aberration of architecture worthy of landmark status?
     
     
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I never understood it either but some bullshit about it being a fine representative of some architectural era.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2016, 7:16 PM
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It's protected because the residents have such a nice view of the park, access to Columbus Circle and the subway system and most new residentials lack balconies.
     
     
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"God almighty, . . how awful every other building on that block is." . .
(quote from above) . . such vulgar fury over such un-hideous buildings . .

just to the west of 220 CPS, a gorgeous building . .
of double-heighted art studio spaces . . with exquisite facade treatment . .
to the East,. the very cool mid-century modern sweeping curve at 7th Ave . .
is a sublime grand urban gesture . .
the aforementioned forefront apartment tower of peach brick . .
(pictured just above) . . (I think it looks more earthy yellow-ochre in real life) . .
has great curvy deco storefronts along Broadway (street-level) . .
the balconies give great texture . . it has a subtle crown "reveal" hat . .
deco interiors . . and, while I wouldn't landmark it, . .
it's got satisfactory color, texture, style, & interiors . . not so bad . .
there are a gazillion bad buildings in this town . .
but this block is pretty nice . .

Why are people so quick to bulldoze and reclad ? . .
For some reason, they're DIS-eased . .
by this city's amazingly diverse historical narrative . .
instead of thoroughly enjoying its complete, richly-patinated
architectural experience . .
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2016, 12:33 AM
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"God almighty, . . how awful every other building on that block is." . .
(quote from above) . . such vulgar fury over such un-hideous buildings . .

If I had one of those units with a balcony, every morning you would see this..



In the end, views are what matter. But rest assured, that would be me every morning.

Because hell, you just have to be happy to have one of those units. And I want people to know!!!
     
     
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^^What artspook so poetically (as always) said. +1. The diversity of New York's architecture should be celebrated. Personally, I like it the way it is. It's humble and enchanting in its own way.

But that white and grey windowless little turd in the shadow of the CNN Building is hideous. Not only does it not look like it belongs in Time Warner Circle (I refuse to honor that villain Columbus) but it doesn't seem to fit in NYC at all.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2016, 12:50 AM
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You can see 220 CPS (Left; background) along with 1 West Avenue (right)


r_160819333_beat0053_a by Mitch Waxman, on Flickr
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2016, 12:42 PM
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"God almighty, . . how awful every other building on that block is." . .
(quote from above) . . such vulgar fury over such un-hideous buildings . .

just to the west of 220 CPS, a gorgeous building . .
of double-heighted art studio spaces . . with exquisite facade treatment . .
to the East,. the very cool mid-century modern sweeping curve at 7th Ave . .
is a sublime grand urban gesture . .
the aforementioned forefront apartment tower of peach brick . .
(pictured just above) . . (I think it looks more earthy yellow-ochre in real life) . .
has great curvy deco storefronts along Broadway (street-level) . .
the balconies give great texture . . it has a subtle crown "reveal" hat . .
deco interiors . . and, while I wouldn't landmark it, . .
it's got satisfactory color, texture, style, & interiors . . not so bad . .
there are a gazillion bad buildings in this town . .
but this block is pretty nice . .

Why are people so quick to bulldoze and reclad ? . .
For some reason, they're DIS-eased . .
by this city's amazingly diverse historical narrative . .
instead of thoroughly enjoying its complete, richly-patinated
architectural experience . .
No, that's all wrong.

"Architectural diversity" is relevant only if it serves some purpose, aesthetically, culturally, historically, etc. This building fails to satisfy any such charge.

It's unapologetically atrocious. Taste is subjective, but I'm sure we could all agree that some buildings are more visually pleasing than others. The Chrysler building, for example, is undoubtedly a better example of artistic creativity and visual pleasure than say, 5 Bryant Park: a poorly proportioned, portly, cheaply clad turd, which, as if that weren't enough, is finished with a lazy, cynical blank wall extending the entire height of that cancerous tumor of a tower. Or, if you'd like an even more obvious example, compare Penn Station to GCT. Can you, with any sincerity, claim that Penn Station isn't a national disgrace that needs to be erased from the history books? Can you make a case that Penn deserves preservation in the same way GCT does?

Furthermore, New York is overflowing with buildings of similarly abhorrent taste and quality. It's not as if tearing that disaster down would prevent tourists and design enthusiasts alike from being able to take in, first hand, the bargain basement sensibilities of every hack architect who aped these god awful designs. Go to any neighborhood, any neighborhood, and you'll have no difficultly in finding similar buildings. And if that is the case to be made (a weak case indeed), then why not make the same case for preserving run down slum neighborhoods? Even if the houses meet some minimum requirement for habitability, you cannot claim that anyone takes pleasure in looking at them.

And what better way to highlight the absurdity of the NIMBY / preservation crowd than noting their argument that buildings with balconies need to be saved. Why can't developers, following the desires of buyers, make that decision? And why do the needs of a few residents, assuming that they actually want balconies (an unsafe assumption) matter to a committee designed to preserve buildings on historical, cultural or aesthetic merits? I wasn't aware that social needs were a part of their criteria.

Sorry, it's a disgrace, and it's occupying one of the most important pieces of real estate in the world. The preservation committee embarrasses themselves, and fails at their charge, by protecting such excrement when there are tens of thousands of more worthy buildings all over the city in need of this kind of attention.
     
     
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It's unapologetically atrocious. Taste is subjective, but I'm sure we could all agree that some buildings are more visually pleasing than others. The Chrysler building, for example, is undoubtedly a better example of artistic creativity and visual pleasure than say, 5 Bryant Park: a poorly proportioned, portly, cheaply clad turd, which, as if that weren't enough, is finished with a lazy, cynical blank wall extending the entire height of that cancerous tumor of a tower.
The problem is that you don't like mid-century design. 5 Bryant Park is a typical midcentury design, not sure why it's being singled out.

But 5 BP isn't landmarked. The building at 240 CPS is landmarked, and for good reason. It's a pretty rare example of a building from 1940, and appears highly regarded, from heavyweights like Robert AM Stern and the NY Times (the Times back in 1997 actually called it "An exquisite model of high-density development").

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/09/re...velopment.html

See how subjective this is? What you're calling a "cancer" is being called by others "exquisite".
     
     
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I like 240 CPS a lot actually. The main problem is the A/C units that ruin the whole facade.
     
     
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You can see 220 CPS (Left; background) along with 1 West Avenue (right)


r_160819333_beat0053_a by Mitch Waxman, on Flickr
u silly

*Right; background
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u silly

*Right; background
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I got dizzy from the epic nature of the shot But yes 220 CPS to the right!

But yes a silly typo on my part.

For my penance, the lord demands that I chug five bloody marys.
     
     
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I got dizzy from the epic nature of the shot But yes 220 CPS to the right!

But yes a silly typo on my part.

For my penance, the lord demands that I chug five bloody marys.
it is a truly epic shot.. its rare to find so many amazing buildings squeezed into a close shot like that

and hahahahahaha that sounds like something artspook would say
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