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Old Posted Dec 17, 2009, 11:23 PM
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They only spent $2 million to redo 500 units... a new roof and windows and kitch appliances, new floors, new baths.... I think they did a heck of a job for the money.

I like the 2 bed+. That's what they are using for the model home pics. It's actually bigger then the 3-bed
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man i hate that there is no news of this development on the spec or CHCH. Don't they have any journalists there that are responsible for finding out what's going on in the redevelopment of this city, you would think they would have someone going around the lower city/downtown area talking up businessmen and residents and reporting on good news like this?!? almost 80% of the downtown news/happenings i hear comes from this forum.
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Old Posted Dec 18, 2009, 12:59 AM
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There's been tons of condo conversions in the city and none of them get mentioned in the news. There's literally always a condo conversion waiting for approval from council from each session.
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As an investor, at your choice, our Property Managers will be responsible for collecting the rents for you.
Unfortunately, they are positioning to investors to rent units vs. owner occupied.
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Old Posted Dec 18, 2009, 11:30 AM
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Start spreadin the news, new loft new loft haha

Hopefully the individual buyers will outnumber the investors. Young buyers and empty nesters should flog the idea. Friends could buy adjoining condos and carpool.
Flog this idea to starters or young couples.
With all the new business at HGH you would think nurses and medical staff. 5 mins to work.
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Does anyone know if they come with a parking spot?
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2009, 4:31 PM
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It looks like there is lots of parking around the building. I would think so.
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Real need

You know what this property needs is a gym. Lots of parking and on the way to Burlington street. Gyms like that work in other areas of the suburds of GTA.
P.S the Boston Pizza is nice and roomy.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2010, 1:26 PM
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I was down the area this weekend and saw the new food terminal. Looks really nice, probably the best architectural building in the whole area.
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I was down the area this weekend and saw the new food terminal. Looks really nice, probably the best architectural building in the whole area.
Saw that too and liked it a lot, though I'll skimp on the superlative.

The ocean of parking lot mazes bordered with stores still gives me the spins, though. Centrifugal Mall?
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Looks like construction should kick into high gear this spring and summer

$4.9 million for 4592.24 m2
$1.2 million for 681.75 m2
$2.2 million for 1127.53 m2 (LCBO store)
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I should hope so. So far the place is pretty dysfunctional and barren. Such a pain in the ass to navigate if you don't drive (big surprise)
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Any new rumours as to what's coming for the centre mall

I heard that the Food Pavillion will introduce Popeye's Chicken sometime down the road. There is still 1 vacant spot in the food pavillion.

Arby's is definitely not coming back.

Has anyone heard anything recent about the possibility of a Future Shop or Best Buy? I wonder if Denningers would come back?

I heard they were talking to Walden Books-Centre Mall should have a book store.

What about an HMV, Winners or another department store-I looked at the updated site plan and theres still quite a few big buildings to be occupied.
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Popeye's is actively expanding in Ontario--so it's possible they could join the roster of stores at the Centre.

Waldenbooks, part of the U.S. based Borders Group is all but disappearing in the U.S. in favor of that company's larger Borders and Borders Express formats. Secondly, strange protectionist laws exist in this country which require "book sellers" to be Canadian-owned (hence the reason we have only one substantial national 'book seller' left)...despite the fact that other retailers that aren't 'book sellers' sell more books in this country than 'book sellers' -- think Walmart, Costco, etc.
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The Centre on Barton update.

The signs on the “Food Pavilion” shows a:
  • A&W with a drive thru
  • WOK Express
  • Subway
  • OPA Greek food
  • Montfort
A separate restaurant has opened east of the CIBC called “Sunset Grill, Famous All Day Breakfast”

The new LCBO is being closed in and should be ready for the Christmas rush.

It looks like the foundation is in, in the area that is signed for Staples coming soon. This area could use a store like that since Grand and Toy moved out.

The Coming Soon sign on Barton shows:
  • Dollarama
  • Wild Wings
  • Mr Big & Tall
  • Tim Hortons
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New 'Centre' mall catalyst for neighbourhood change
Bigger, bolder commercial mecca central to $100m redevelopment

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http://www.thespec.com/news/business...ourhood-change
THE HAMILTON SPECTATOR

Shiny new big box stores sprouting on the site of one of Hamilton's oldest shopping malls are being credited with helping to spark a revival of their neighbourhood.

Now known as The Centre on Barton Street, the former Centre Mall is being turned into a new commercial mecca of up to 28 large, free-standing stores. It's all part of a $100 million redevelopment project.

"This is the biggest inner city development in Canada," said Ward 4 Councillor Sam Merulla. "It's becoming the catalyst for redevelopment on Ottawa Street, and may do the same thing for Kenilworth Avenue as well."

Under the management of Redcliffe Realty Management Inc., the Centre is being rebuilt to a planned 750,000 square feet of leasable area over the 28 buildings. Hamilton's first enclosed mall -- and at one time the largest shopping centre in Canada -- the Centre fell on hard times in the late 1990s with competition from much larger Eastgate Square. Movement to the suburbs, the loss of manufacturing jobs in Hamilton's east end and the advent of big box malls such as Ancaster's Meadowlands hurt even more.

Serious decline started in 1998 when an anchor tenant, Kmart, closed in a restructuring. In 2001 the movie theatre lease was terminated, and by 2002 the entire property was up for sale, with rumours that developers were looking at the 74 acres for a public housing development.

By 2005, the property was under new ownership of a company called Kenilworth Investments Inc., with a vision of a different future and the dollars to make that happen. Demolition of the former mall started in 2006.

"It's coming along very well," said Don Burton, executive vice-president of Redcliffe. "We're probably 70 to 75 per cent through the project now."

To date, about 15 of the site's 28 potential buildings have been finished. Most recently, the new food court building was opened, including a small community meeting space. A liquor store is expected to be finished this year, and an enormous Dollarama store is under construction beside the Canadian Tire outlet.

Also open now are Zellers, Shoppers Drug Mart, Rogers, The Source, Optical Factory, TD Canada Trust, The Beer Store, Bell, Scotiabank, Hollywood Hair Design, Desjardins Credit Union, Boston Pizza, Centre Mall Dental and a new Metro supermarket.

Construction of the rest is expected to take another 18 months.

Burton said the original plan was for the project to be finished by the end of this year, but the economic slump that began in 2008 impacted work considerably.

"The downturn in the economy certainly slowed things down pretty significantly, but it's coming along nicely now," he said.

Replacing the tired, 50-year-old structure has had an unintended, but highly welcome, effect on the neighbourhood, Merulla said. Property values around the site have risen and a troubled apartment building in the north-west corner of the property has been turned into condominiums.

"That building used to be one of the biggest crack houses in Hamilton, but now it's condos, and people are taking pride in the building," he said. "The Centre was a tired old mall that was ready to be redeveloped. Now, in some cases, we're talking about property values that have doubled."

At the same time, he added, the city has gained $2 million a year in revenue from the project.

When the Centre project was first proposed, some feared it would sound a death knell for neighbouring shopping areas such as Ottawa Street North. So far, said Ottawa BIA executive director Patty Despinic, that hasn't happened.

"So far the impact has been quite neutral, in part because the development isn't finished," she said.

"There have been a lot of physical changes, so there has been some benefit in terms of the image of the area.

"The best we can say right now is that time will tell the full effect, when some more of the big players move in," she added.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2010, 8:40 PM
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Anything new?

Is there an updated site plan being released soon? Have newer stores been added to the Centre on Barton, since the last post. Any rumours?
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The LCBO near the RBC looks close to being finished. That's just me driving by, nothing official.
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The LCBO opens today

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...w-liquor-store

Finally a quality liquor store in the lower city. Hopefully it will do well enough to convince LCBO to ramp up the condition of the other lower city locations. The Jackson Square location is particularly disappointing.
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