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Old Posted Jan 1, 2018, 6:13 PM
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Ask average New Yorkers on the street about the wtc and the most common knee-jerk reaction is still "I'd never work in those buildings". That stigma will be there for a while.
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Old Posted Jan 1, 2018, 7:39 PM
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The vacancy rate at the twins wasn't all that impressive either.
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Old Posted Jan 2, 2018, 10:03 PM
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2018 should be the year a deal happens. If it doesn't happen this year I'll put this site out of my mind until something does eventually happen.

The economic conditions are right for this to move forward. If it can't make it up now, then I wouldn't be surprised if the design gets a slight haircut or they start thinking of residential uses. Maybe the demand just isn't there.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2018, 3:44 PM
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I'm not sure what everyone is talking about with this "high vacancy rate" in 1 WTC. The tower is 22% away from being fully occupied only being open for 3 full years. That is pretty good. The tower itself has over 50 different tenants already. The twins took decades to reach near capacity. We all know they were filled with government tenants for a long time as well. Give the new complex time. It's not even fully completed.
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Ask average New Yorkers on the street about the wtc and the most common knee-jerk reaction is still "I'd never work in those buildings". That stigma will be there for a while.
I've never heard that, even once. And I know lots of people with connections to the old WTC.

As to vacancy rates, I don't know what people are talking about. The existing four WTC towers all have low vacancy rates. Whether or not there are "govt" tenants in one building is totally immaterial. Those leases were decided 15 years ago.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2018, 4:23 PM
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I've never heard that, even once. And I know lots of people with connections to the old WTC.
I've actually heard this a lot. My aunt lived in Tribeca and she's said things like this. She also was opposed to rebuilding the complex which I thought was crazy. Maybe it's different though for people who were actually there.
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2018, 1:44 AM
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I've never heard that, even once. And I know lots of people with connections to the old WTC.
Well there are a lot of people in New York who say they wouldn't want to work at the WTC. And there are a lot of people in New York who say the Twin Towers should have been rebuilt, but taller. But those opinions are neither here nor there, as the vast majority of people won't work there.

Read any article on any New York development where there are comments, and the vast majority will be clueless commentary, because people have opinions on everything. Has no bearing on what will or should be built.

I will say though, that the atmosphere of fear that surfaced in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 is gone for the most part. There will be more people living or working in higher places than before 9/11, and that is only going to increase.
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I will say though, that the atmosphere of fear that surfaced in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 is gone for the most part.
The last time I was down there was way back in March and the place was absolutely thriving with foot traffic … combination of tourism and professionals. Law enforcement was also highly visible, which is a good thing coupled with what we don't see. At no point did I ever feel uncomfortable.
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The last time I was down there was way back in March and the place was absolutely thriving with foot traffic … combination of tourism and professionals. Law enforcement was also highly visible, which is a good thing coupled with what we don't see. At no point did I ever feel uncomfortable.
Exactly. The only people who speak of fear are the people who would never go down there anyway, pre 9/11 or not.
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There are a lot of security features built into the complex. Many which blend in, and the common person would not notice. Ever notice the way the 9/11 memorial park was designed? There's a reason it looks the way it does. Again, covert security measures without turning the complex into a draconian looking piece of land. Gives the illusion that its not secure, when there are subtle design attributes that give great security (from bomb trucks for example). Check the base of 1 WTC to see what I mean as one example.
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