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Mike Harris was from North Bay. That did not end well for anywhere in Ontario.
Oh true, although it was during a time of hardship.
Sale of 407
Massive downloads of many provincial highways
Cancellation of every highway projects

Many a liberal or NDP from the north then?
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Oh true, although it was during a time of hardship.
Sale of 407
Massive downloads of many provincial highways
Cancellation of every highway projects

Many a liberal or NDP from the north then?
Those hardships are the PC's own doing.
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Those hardships are the PC's own doing.
Wanna elaborate? I would like to learn about it.
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Wanna elaborate? I would like to learn about it.
They brought in the platform with their ""Common Sense Revolution". This is akin to the last PC platform that included "get rid of 100,000 public sector jobs."
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Would reducing government staff really have helped reduce government expenses though?
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Would reducing government staff really have helped reduce government expenses though?
Someone still needs to do the work.

Plowing used to be government run. Now it's private run. Look at the mess now.
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Would reducing government staff really have helped reduce government expenses though?
Does government ever save money by making cuts? They seem to always lose money when making changes, even when selling a profitable asset!

What is harder to measure is the un-tangible indicators: the destroyed morale of the public service that has never been restored, the loss of public trust in the civil service generated by the "common sense revolution" rhetoric that seems permanently lost, public servants have dug in their heels with the government and don't trust them and so on and so forth... which all leads to lower productivity and lower quality work.
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In the mid-1990s, all of the party leaders were from the North, and two from Northwestern Ontario. Howard Hampton lead the NDP while representing Kenora, Lyn McLoed led the Liberals while representing Thunder Bay-Atikokan and Mike Harris led the province as PC leader from Nipissing.

And don't forget, by being from Barrie, Patrick Brown has strong ties to the north!!
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In the mid-1990s, all of the party leaders were from the North, and two from Northwestern Ontario. Howard Hampton lead the NDP while representing Kenora, Lyn McLoed led the Liberals while representing Thunder Bay-Atikokan and Mike Harris led the province as PC leader from Nipissing.

And don't forget, by being from Barrie, Patrick Brown has strong ties to the north!!
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One of the city's budget documents indicates expected growth from two (2) new apartment buildings somewhere on Leslie Ave. One will have 63 units, and the other 54 units if constructed.

Other highlights include a significant upgrade to the Waverley Resource Library, subject to funding from upper levels of government, rehabilitation of the Main St. bridge, Court St. and Victoria Ave. (main thoroughfares) and possibly installation of right turning lane(s) at Memorial Ave. & Harbour Expressway.

Its worth noting that upgrades to Balmoral Ave. and Junot Ave. (projects that are partially completed) are having to be put off again. There are no funding programs available from upper levels of government to cover these types of projects, and the city can't do it alone at the moment.
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Sears will be closing forever in Thunder Bay on Sunday, ending a decades-long residency at the Harbour Expressway & Fort William Rd. Still no word from mall ownership or management what will become of the space. The lengthy amount of time it has taken Sears to liquidate and close would've given the mall time to work on new tenants.

An article in local media is indicating the the Thunder Bay Port is finally moving towards improvements to Keefer Terminal that were announced in 2016 (including gov't funding if I remember correctly). Improvements will include re-configuring of some rail track and yard improvements, and eventually a new storage building.
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Sears will be closing forever in Thunder Bay on Sunday, ending a decades-long residency at the Harbour Expressway & Fort William Rd. Still no word from mall ownership or management what will become of the space. The lengthy amount of time it has taken Sears to liquidate and close would've given the mall time to work on new tenants.

An article in local media is indicating the the Thunder Bay Port is finally moving towards improvements to Keefer Terminal that were announced in 2016 (including gov't funding if I remember correctly). Improvements will include re-configuring of some rail track and yard improvements, and eventually a new storage building.
Sears in Sudbury and North Bay are also closing within this week.

Two major malls loosing a lot of rental revenue.
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Two major malls loosing a lot of rental revenue.
Short term, yes. Longer time, hard to say. New tenants may bring in more business and higher per/SF rates for the mall, especially if the new tenants break up the 'anchor tenant' space vacated by Sears.
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The Sears store in Timmins closed during the Summer last year. Nothing has replaced it and nothing likely will. The store was an Sears Outlet store for the last 5 years or so and went downhill so the writing had been on the wall for awhile. There are already enough empty spaces in the shopping centre so I can't see them diving the former store like they did with Zellers where Urban Planet and some other stores went in after.

I still can't believe that there is no Costco in Thunder Bay.
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With the failure of many of the big retailers, have we hit a point where we will start seeing less retail?
Minimum wage will be $15/hr next year. That will deliver an even bigger blow.

Seriously, how many different places do you need that sells the-same-thing?

We all want the cheapest. Are we also causing this mess too?
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With the failure of many of the big retailers, have we hit a point where we will start seeing less retail?
We hit that point starting in about 2000, just after the internet started to gain a foothold in the retail market and just as the retail scene was peaking. The real question is, is this a permanent crash or a mere correction?

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Minimum wage will be $15/hr next year. That will deliver an even bigger blow.
Adjusted for inflation, $15 an hour is still less than Sears employees made in the 1980s. I have a friend who worked in the women's clothing department in Sears in the early 1990s and got paid just over $10 an hour (minimum wage at the time was about $5). Retail jobs used to be permanent jobs, now they're seen as throwaway jobs even thought they continue to be vital to society. (Imagine your day if every retail employee you interacted with ceased to exist—including the ones behind the scenes who stock shelves, ship goods and enter data. It's significant!)

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Seriously, how many different places do you need that sells the-same-thing?
It's not necessarily that they're selling the same thing, but that they've failed to differentiate themselves. They're not just selling the same thing (stores have for a long time), they're doing the same things to attract the same people.

The stores that close are typically closing because they simply haven't followed the trend closely enough and customers drifted away.

And while general retail is failing, it seems like the home renovation stores (Lowes, Home Depot, Home Hardware and Rona) are all doing quite well. Canadian Tire I have some concerns about considering actions they've taken at the corporate level but they're not doing badly.

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We all want the cheapest. Are we also causing this mess too?
Yes. But still, you have to put most of the responsibility on companies that can choose between a product made by well-paid employees in a good work environment or one made by poorly-paid employees in a poor work environment and choose the latter. Most of us end up paying for those cheap purchases anyway; cheaper goods aren't made to last. Part of why Walmart has so many sales is because their products break and people go and buy a new one, often from the same store. There is almost a market incentive for businesses to sell shitty products instead of good ones because it guarantees they're sell the same product again sooner. A $500 fridge sale every 5 years from one customer makes a lot more money than a $1500 fridge sale once every 20 years. The local kijiji is filled with free leather couches because the plastic coating (!!) is peeling off of them after a year and they originally paid $1000 for the set (which is just how much a decent living room set cost in 1990). Cheap costs money and people don't realize it until it's too late.
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We hit that point starting in about 2000, just after the internet started to gain a foothold in the retail market and just as the retail scene was peaking. The real question is, is this a permanent crash or a mere correction?



Adjusted for inflation, $15 an hour is still less than Sears employees made in the 1980s. I have a friend who worked in the women's clothing department in Sears in the early 1990s and got paid just over $10 an hour (minimum wage at the time was about $5). Retail jobs used to be permanent jobs, now they're seen as throwaway jobs even thought they continue to be vital to society. (Imagine your day if every retail employee you interacted with ceased to exist—including the ones behind the scenes who stock shelves, ship goods and enter data. It's significant!)



It's not necessarily that they're selling the same thing, but that they've failed to differentiate themselves. They're not just selling the same thing (stores have for a long time), they're doing the same things to attract the same people.

The stores that close are typically closing because they simply haven't followed the trend closely enough and customers drifted away.

And while general retail is failing, it seems like the home renovation stores (Lowes, Home Depot, Home Hardware and Rona) are all doing quite well. Canadian Tire I have some concerns about considering actions they've taken at the corporate level but they're not doing badly.



Yes. But still, you have to put most of the responsibility on companies that can choose between a product made by well-paid employees in a good work environment or one made by poorly-paid employees in a poor work environment and choose the latter. Most of us end up paying for those cheap purchases anyway; cheaper goods aren't made to last. Part of why Walmart has so many sales is because their products break and people go and buy a new one, often from the same store. There is almost a market incentive for businesses to sell shitty products instead of good ones because it guarantees they're sell the same product again sooner. A $500 fridge sale every 5 years from one customer makes a lot more money than a $1500 fridge sale once every 20 years. The local kijiji is filled with free leather couches because the plastic coating (!!) is peeling off of them after a year and they originally paid $1000 for the set (which is just how much a decent living room set cost in 1990). Cheap costs money and people don't realize it until it's too late.
So how do we fix this?

My thought is if the laws were in place that set minimum wage at the living wage. Also, if we got rid of various levels of minimum wage. For example, servers make less.

Next, make laws that companies cannot use contract workers.

Then, make laws that prevent removal off current benefits.

In short, make it less appealing to companies to cut, but make sure they see that you cannot just be a slave owner.
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I don't see brick & mortar retail disappearing any time soon. People still enjoy going out shopping, as well as being able to see, touch, feel and try goods in person before purchasing. Online shopping has definitely put a dent in traditional retail shopping, but is a long way from eliminating it altogether.

I think the bigger challenge for retail is keeping up with the seemingly ever-accelerating pace of change in terms of trends, customer needs & wants and market demands. A retailer is continuously having the re-invent themselves to remain current and desirable. In my opinion, this requires specialization and a narrower focus on a couple product lines, which is why so many department stores are vanishing. They just can't compete across a broad spectrum of goods trying to be a 'jack of all trades' instead of a 'master of one'.

On the topic of employee compensation, economic theory dictates (however controversial it is) that minimum wage ought to be eliminated (just as most government price controls are thought to actually be negative for its citizens). Its not a crazy concept if there is demand for 'lower wage' earners to fill positions. Companies would then have to essentially offer wages against each other, not knowing each other's 'bids' in order to retain workers' services. This should also act as incentive for the workers to improve themselves to obtain higher pay. In practice, is gets a lot muddier, and usually benefits fall by the wayside as people tend to focus on wage. Not saying I think this is the correct way to go... just another concept to provoke some thought though.
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The federal government announced funding via a couple sources for a bio-refinery plant at the Resolute Pulp & Paper mill in Thunder Bay. The total cost of the plant is about $21 million, and will create new jobs at the facility. The purpose of the facility is to test the production of wood fibre-based products for use in a variety of goods at a commercial level. A smaller test lab has been operating in the mill for a few years now. The project also includes FPInnovations, Canada's largest forestry sector researcher.

A new type of used car dealership for Thunder Bay is opening at Carrick and 11th Ave. (where the Mattress King used to be years ago). I can't remember the name of it, but one orders their car online, and they ship it to the local dealer for the customer.

Sounds like Chartwell Select on Arundel St. is looking at building several new units in a row house format this year.
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The federal government announced funding via a couple sources for a bio-refinery plant at the Resolute Pulp & Paper mill in Thunder Bay. The total cost of the plant is about $21 million, and will create new jobs at the facility. The purpose of the facility is to test the production of wood fibre-based products for use in a variety of goods at a commercial level. A smaller test lab has been operating in the mill for a few years now. The project also includes FPInnovations, Canada's largest forestry sector researcher.

A new type of used car dealership for Thunder Bay is opening at Carrick and 11th Ave. (where the Mattress King used to be years ago). I can't remember the name of it, but one orders their car online, and they ship it to the local dealer for the customer.

Sounds like Chartwell Select on Arundel St. is looking at building several new units in a row house format this year.
Can you provide a link to the announcement about that plant improvement?
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