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Old Posted Nov 20, 2012, 8:29 AM
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Yeah, Metro Vancouver actually has a lot going one, it is just that most Vancouver forum members only seem to stick to the local.
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Old Posted Nov 20, 2012, 6:09 PM
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I used the crane or crane base as the deciding factor on construction start because that's what SSP is using in the construction thread. I know what you mean though, generally if a pile driver is on site, or if shoring is happening, it's usually a go. I just wanted to keep it consistent.


I used the crane going down for construction end as it's an easy visual verification. Often there is some debate over whether building has been officially opened for occupancy or taken over by the condo board, etc... for example the Bow has had it's crane down for a while, but there are still move in ins ans interior construction work, but it's easier to leave it off the list.

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winnipeg actually has 4.

Canad Inns HSC Hotel
CMHR
Heritage Landing
Alt Hotel.

Glasshouse Condo as well i suppose.

i'm not sure why the presence of a crane is the definition of under construction.....occupancy is the benchmark for the completion of the construction phase...technically it is when the building receives an occupancy permit.
The crane can be gone from a site half way through construction, as with the CMHR....it will be under construction for two years without a crane.
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Old Posted Nov 20, 2012, 6:10 PM
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Yeah, Metro Vancouver actually has a lot going one, it is just that most Vancouver forum members only seem to stick to the local.
67 high rise projects. That damn good.
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According to SSP, the City of Vancouver has 28 under construction.

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?cityID=1&statusID=2

Here is a list for the Vancouver CMA, (maybe incomplete).
Vancouver 28
Burnaby 9
Richmond 17
New Westminster 4
North Vancouver 2
Coquitlam 3
Surrey 1
Port Coquitlam 3
Total 67
There's one high rise construction well underway for Suter Brook in Port Moody. I guess that's 'The Residence'.

The other crane in Port Moody.. I just found out that its only for a 5-floors building. So that one doesn't count.

So I guess that's +1 for Port Moody and Metro Vancouver.
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I would like to see Montreal's number including its suburbs.
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I would like to see Montreal's number including its suburbs.
There's very little. Though MTLskyline will be able to give more accurate numbers, I'd say there's 1-2 on the south shore, maybe 10 in Laval. Not anything like metro vancouver, which, due to its largely unaffordable core, is witnessing 40 storey buildings going up in far distant suburbs. Montreal doesn't have that problem, and therefore there is no need for a densification of its suburbs. Though Laval is trying, very few of its buildings go beyond 15 floors.
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I would like to see Montreal's number including its suburbs.
Agreed. Vancouver and Toronto's include the burbs.
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Another thing to note is that Toronto's numbers (at least the lists quoted by RBT and Caltrane) include projects where excav is occurring whereas the Vancouver, and I'm guessing all other lists, do not.

I would assume this would add roughly 10% to other cities numbers or vice versa decrease Toronto's by ~10%.
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67 high rise projects. That damn good.
You are going to have to correct your original quote, while Montreal is indeed doing an admirable job in high rise construction right now, Metro Vancouver is still in a solid second place in Canada after Toronto.

But again, you would never know it considering how little is posted on Van in the Canada sections.
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Agreed. Vancouver and Toronto's include the burbs.
I'm pretty sure there are lots of projects in Toronto's 905 suburbs that are not included in that list.
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I'm pretty sure there are lots of projects in Toronto's 905 suburbs that are not included in that list.
The list I presented was only Toronto, not the surrounding areas.

I've got an additional 30 if you add in Markham, Mississauga, Richmond Hill, Brampton, Vaughan, ... My suburban numbers are less reliable as they don't get the same amount of press that Toronto does.
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Mississauga

9

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?cityID=306&statusID=2

Richmond Hill

10

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?ci...798&statusID=2

Vaughan

4

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?ci...797&statusID=2

Oakville

3

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?cityID=322&statusID=2


Markham

15

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?cityID=321&statusID=2

Brampton

1

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?cityID=310&statusID=2



Total GTA (Excl-Toronto) Metro - 42 Buildings over 12 floors Under Construction

Toronto Downtown and 416 - 148 Buildings over 12 floors Under Construction

Toronto Combined GTA and Downtown 416 = 190 buildings Under Construction over 12 floors
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There's very little. Though MTLskyline will be able to give more accurate numbers, I'd say there's 1-2 on the south shore, maybe 10 in Laval. Not anything like metro vancouver, which, due to its largely unaffordable core, is witnessing 40 storey buildings going up in far distant suburbs. Montreal doesn't have that problem, and therefore there is no need for a densification of its suburbs. Though Laval is trying, very few of its buildings go beyond 15 floors.
This is all of the ones that I can think of at the moment. (+9)


On Montreal Island, not yet mentioned (3)
Faubourg Jarry - 15 fl
Le Salto - 14 fl
Cité Nature Phase 3 - 14 fl

On the south shore (2 - both in Brossard)
Résidence Soleil - 15 fl
Le Marquis - 12 fl

In Laval (4)
Villa Latella Phase 3 - 15 fl
Condos VIVA Phase 2 - 14 fl
Condos VIVA Phase 1 - 12 fl (topped out)
Quintessence Phase 1 - 12 fl (topped out)
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There's very little. Though MTLskyline will be able to give more accurate numbers, I'd say there's 1-2 on the south shore, maybe 10 in Laval. Not anything like metro vancouver, which, due to its largely unaffordable core, is witnessing 40 storey buildings going up in far distant suburbs.
I think this have more to do with how the boundaries are structured. For Toronto and to a lesser extent, Montreal, there have been recent mergers with inner suburbs. Compared to Vancouver, where the most recent merger, I believe, was in 1929. The actual city of Vancouver is very small, and have less population than Winnipeg. So in comparison, the City of Vancouver functions pretty similar to the old city of Toronto and Montreal, while the inner suburbs like Burnaby and Richmond is more like the different boroughs in Toronto and Montreal away from downtown.
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This is all of the ones that I can think of at the moment. (+9)


On Montreal Island, not yet mentioned (3)
Faubourg Jarry - 15 fl
Le Salto - 14 fl
Cité Nature Phase 3 - 14 fl

On the south shore (2 - both in Brossard)
Résidence Soleil - 15 fl
Le Marquis - 12 fl

In Laval (4)
Villa Latella Phase 3 - 15 fl
Condos VIVA Phase 2 - 14 fl
Condos VIVA Phase 1 - 12 fl (topped out)
Quintessence Phase 1 - 12 fl (topped out)

For Laval, I would add:

La résidence des philantropes - 3 towers (2 x 16fl, 1 x 14 fl)
Logix - 2 towers (12 fl, 15 fl)
Urbania (18 fl)
Boisé Notre-Dame 17 fl (not sure if this one still U/C)
Mont-Laval (this is a very big project that is U/C and include 8 towers of 12 fl but I think they started with smaller buildings of 6 or 8 fl, not sure)

For Boisbriand
Faubourg Boisbriand 2 x 16 fl (construction has started but not sure if there is a crane)

So I would add 7 more (if I'm conservative). For a possible total of 41 projects with crane in Montreal.
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I think this have more to do with how the boundaries are structured. For Toronto and to a lesser extent, Montreal, there have been recent mergers with inner suburbs. Compared to Vancouver, where the most recent merger, I believe, was in 1929. The actual city of Vancouver is very small, and have less population than Winnipeg. So in comparison, the City of Vancouver functions pretty similar to the old city of Toronto and Montreal, while the inner suburbs like Burnaby and Richmond is more like the different boroughs in Toronto and Montreal away from downtown.
Areas such as Metrotown and Brentwood in Burnaby really do feel like Boroughs in Vancouver.
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I didn't see Ottawa listed so here's a rough estimate based off of the last two pages in the Ottawa section. They're all at varying states of construction so may or may not have a crane up at this point in time. They're also limited solely to inside the greenbelt.

Claridge Plaza - 28 floors x 2 buildings
150 Elgin - 27 floors
Tribeca - 27 floors x 2 buildings
Cathedral Hill - 20 floors x 2 buildings
The Merit - 20 floors
90 Elgin - 19 floors
Gotham - 17 floors
Vanier Hall - 15 floors
The Galleria - 14 floors
Lebreton Flats Phase 3 - 13 floors
Soho Lisgar - 12 floors

Here are some others that are at varying approval stages -- some have been approved, some delayed and some proposed -- but again, all within the greenbelt.

Attika - 36 floors
SOHO Italia - 35 floors
801 Albert - 31 floors x 2 buildings
159-167 Parkdale - 28 floors
99 Parkdale - 28 floors
96 Nepean - 27 floors
Nepean Tower - 27 floors
101 Champagne - 25 and 22 floors
485 Richmond - 24 floors
SOHO Champagne - 24 and 20 floors
1050 Somerset - 23 floors
The Slater - 22 floors
265 Carling - 20 floors
95-101 Norman - 18 floors
re Hotel and Residences - 17 floors
335 Roosevelt - 16 and 14 floors
2940 Baseline - 16, 14 and 12 floors
The Edge - 15 floors
855 Carling - 15 and 12 floors
100 Champagne - 12 floors
Richmond and Woodroffe - 14 floors
927 Richmond - 13 floors
460 St. Laurent - 13 floors
Lepine - 12 floors
Arts Court - TBD

Ottawa's sweet spot is clearly in the mid-teens to high-twenties.
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So I would add 7 more (if I'm conservative). For a possible total of 41 projects with crane in Montreal.
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If you can tell me how many have a crane, I'll start with that number and add more as the crane sighting is verified

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I didn't see Ottawa listed so here's a rough estimate based off of the last two pages in the Ottawa section. They're all at varying states of construction so may or may not have a crane up at this point in time. They're also limited solely to inside the greenbelt.

Claridge Plaza - 28 floors x 2 buildings
150 Elgin - 27 floors
Tribeca - 27 floors x 2 buildings
Cathedral Hill - 20 floors x 2 buildings
The Merit - 20 floors
90 Elgin - 19 floors
Gotham - 17 floors
Vanier Hall - 15 floors
The Galleria - 14 floors
Lebreton Flats Phase 3 - 13 floors
Soho Lisgar - 12 floors
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