The Collective on 4th (4th and Harrison) | 175' | 15 floors | Complete - Page 5

cailes · #81 Posted **Mar 12, 2015, 7:28 PM**

Makes you wonder if anybody actually went out and walked around the property to think about things...

maccoinnich · #82 Posted **Mar 13, 2015, 4:22 AM**

I'm listening to the Design Commission audio from this afternoon's hearing. I'm less than half way through the hearing, but the Commission are tearing the proposed designs apart to degree that's actually painful to listen to.

urbanlife · #83 Posted **Mar 13, 2015, 5:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by maccoinnich

I'm listening to the Design Commission audio from this afternoon's hearing. I'm less than half way through the hearing, but the Commission are tearing the proposed designs apart to degree that's actually painful to listen to.

That is good, it is always nice to know when the Design Commission goes after something that is clearly a bad design.

BrG · #84 Posted **Mar 13, 2015, 5:40 PM**

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It's likely that a rendering company or graphics professional not working with the design team made that rendering, not either of the architecture firms involved with the project. In other words, someone not familiar with the project was handed a model and a photo and assigned the task of making it real.

The fact that it is wrong is hardly surprising to me.

Yep. It certainly does happen in the timelines this stuff is expected to be turned around it.

As for the design it is pretty clear the program is tough to accommodate in any graceful way within the potential development envelope. It's BIG.

PDXDENSITY · #85 Posted **Mar 13, 2015, 6:04 PM**

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Yep. It certainly does happen in the timelines this stuff is expected to be turned around it.

As for the design it is pretty clear the program is tough to accommodate in any graceful way within the potential development envelope. It's BIG.

With stepbacks, this could be a far more graceful tower. The height restrictions there are ridiculous.

BrG · #86 Posted **Apr 2, 2015, 3:19 PM**

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With stepbacks, this could be a far more graceful tower. The height restrictions there are ridiculous.

As you know, stepbacks = FAR giveaway + construction complexity.

You can go taller.. But going taller gets more expensive, per sf.

Kevin Cavenaugh called them 'greedy buildings', which seems somewhat appropriate. More specifically "risk aversion + max yield" buildings.

Not pretty ones, that's for sure.

One look at PSU's 6th and College behemoth, shows that.

maccoinnich · #87 Posted **Apr 7, 2015, 11:21 PM**

I was kind of hoping this had died, but no: it's on the Design Commission agenda for June 4th.

maccoinnich · #88 Posted **Jun 12, 2015, 6:34 PM**

It's back, and vastly improved [PDF - 40MB]. Now on the Design Commission agenda for June 18th.

ORNative · #89 Posted **Jun 12, 2015, 7:18 PM**

Wow - What a vast improvement. I work two blocks away and my window will look directly at this building. I am impressed with the new design's aesthetics and how it opens toward the park. This should receive a much warmer reception at the design commission.

maccoinnich · #90 Posted **Jun 12, 2015, 7:27 PM**

If ever an example was needed of the value of Design Review I think this is it.

cab · #91 Posted **Jun 12, 2015, 7:33 PM**

OK, I have to admit, Design review came through on this one. This is must build now. It will have a huge impact on that area. Could be critical mass to activate those 3 fantastic parks.

65MAX · #92 Posted **Jun 12, 2015, 9:19 PM**

Wow, that's a MASSIVE improvement. Especially considering it's Myhre Group.

2oh1 · #93 Posted **Jun 12, 2015, 9:25 PM**

Holy cow. Talk about a difference. This building went from something to dread to being something to get excited about.

The only thing I'm not crazy about is the dark metal paneling along the lower portion facing the park (see 2nd photo in the comment below). I don't understand what they're going for there. Glass would have been so much nicer. Luckily, most of it will be at least a story above ground from the park, with glass below it facing into the park.

QAtheSky · #94 Posted **Jun 13, 2015, 1:49 AM**

A phenomenal turnaround. Very excited by the changes here. This building seems much more elegant and in tune with the neighborhood.

maccoinnich · #95 Posted **Jun 13, 2015, 4:18 AM**

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Wow, that's a MASSIVE improvement. Especially considering it's Myhre Group.

I think Myhre Group are only involved to the extent of assisting with dealing with the City. The design architects are Hartshorne Plunkard of Chicago.

WestCoast · #96 Posted **Jun 13, 2015, 4:33 AM**

oh yeah! Major improvement.

This takes away my view of the hills, but, who cares, looks great.
Nice big supermarket below that I can walk to. Bring more people to the neighborhood after the school day ends.

Love it. Build it. (said knowing full well it will lower my lower my property values and ruin my view... whatever).

There are parking spots blocked off in the lot, wonder if they are doing surveying work?

urbanlife · #97 Posted **Jun 13, 2015, 5:22 AM**

Oh thank god, this looks so much better. I was afraid this building was gonna be the turd of downtown.

BlazerBeav · #98 Posted **Jun 13, 2015, 7:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by maccoinnich

I think Myhre Group are only involved to the extent of assisting with dealing with the City. The design architects are Hartshorne Plunkard of Chicago.

That is correct - I was involved with the design of the Hub building currently under construction in Eugene. Hartshorne Plunkard is the design firm for all of their buildings.

mcbaby · #99 Posted **Jun 13, 2015, 4:31 PM**

Much improved. Would like to see a green roof and taller trees in courtyard.

zilfondel · #**100** Posted **Jun 14, 2015, 12:01 AM**

That really fills in that corner nicely. 9/10