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LOS ANGELES | LAPD Headquarters | XXX FT / XX M | 10 FLOORS

Location: 1st Street and Spring Street
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The police headquarters that broke ground in January is now 35% complete, keeping the project on time and on budget, according to the Bureau of Engineering. A $231 million, 10-story replacement for Parker Center, being constructed by Sylmar-based Tutor-Saliba, is rising south of City Hall where crews are now erecting steel frames. It is part of a three-phase project expected to cost about $420 million by the time it is completed in 2009. The main site, bordered by Spring, Main, First and Second streets, will house the 500,000-square-foot headquarters. One block away on Main Street, an 800-car Motor Transportation Division facility is planned. The headquarters' design includes an open plaza facing First Street and a small, landscaped park at the corner of Second and Main streets, as well as a 300-car LAPD garage. Downtown-based DMJM is the architect.
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Taken today, LAPD headquarters on the fifth and sixth floors...

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This one shot up in no time. Already working on the 6th floor. The blue fence at the bottom is on the sidewalk, which gives you an idea how far this building is set back from the street. Granted, they're supposed to widen 2nd Street as part of this project, but damn.



The crane arm has been dropped down because someone snuck into the site at night and started playing with the crane, as well as making off with some electrical equipment. Ironic that the building that's supposed to be the most secure in this building boom is the one with the worst security.

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its a nice building but its too reminscent of the 80s dark age design of downtown LAs towers. hgue plazas and setbacks. its not very inviting.
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I think it also has a modernist flair to it.
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I thought there was to be a public park along the southern side of the block? Maybe I am mistaken.
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its a nice building but its too reminscent of the 80s dark age design of downtown LAs towers. hgue plazas and setbacks. its not very inviting.
Haha that's funny. It's the HQ for the LAPD....is it supposed to be inviting?
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It reminds me of the Renovations they made to the Dallas Police Dept. Does this still come with the beat down and abuse that the LAPD is known for?
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Haha that's funny. It's the HQ for the LAPD....is it supposed to be inviting?
heh. you have a point there. i see good things in the future for second street. its nice narrow street which you dont see much of in LA, with little tokyo starting to come into its own on the eastern flank of downtown, and grand avenue rising on the western flank. but this building obviously is gonna be a bit of a gap.

and now that i see the renderings again, i like this buliding. i just wish it brought closer to the street. this land was contested between LAPD and a group that wanted a park put there. I'd rather have the pocket park, so if they're gonna have that hgue plaza open up i hope they at least dedicate some public art to that space.
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$465 sq/ft for a public use building???
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LAPD: just skyrocketted!
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Speaking of the Police. Here's a series of shots of the New Police Headquarters. The first shot is taken from 2nd and Main.



2nd and Spring.



1st and Main.

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From earlier today. They've moved the crane over to the north end of the lot, hopefully to start work on the northern wing of the building. So far, only 2/3 of the building's footprint has been built, but that 2/3 is already topped out. Kind of a strange construction method if you ask me.

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Another $40 Million Hike for LAPD Headquarters

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The cost of the new LAPD headquarters being built in the Civic Center has jumped again, to nearly $437 million, and city officials say the budget could continue to escalate. Last month, the City Council approved an additional $40 million for the third phase of the project, a Motor Transport Division facility and LAPD parking garage. A report prepared by Chief Administrative Officer Karen Sisson and Chief Legislative Analyst Gerry Miller also warned that the project's price tag is expected to escalate again in coming months, because the city is still negotiating with the owners of the land where the third phase would be built. "Since land acquisition will not be completed until as late as April 2008, additional funds may need to be requested at that time," the report read in part. It is the latest cost increase for the project being built by contractor Tutor-Saliba. The development was initially approved by City Council in 2004 with a price tag of $300 million. The first phase - a 10-story police headquarters to replace nearby Parker Center - is more than 35% complete.

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Get a Handle on Police Headquarters

The cost of the Downtown LAPD headquarters facilities went up another $40 million recently, reaching a staggering $437 million. The city needs to get a handle on this fast, because with construction costs still rising, a half-billion dollar project is on the horizon.

This is about more than just gasping at government expenditures, or raising an uproar over how taxpayer funds are being spent. What is clear is that someone has not done enough homework, that cost analyses were incomplete, and that leadership has stumbled. In 2004, the City Council approved a budget of $300 million for the project.

We do not dispute the need for a replacement for Parker Center. The current headquarters opened more than 50 years ago, is outdated and in poor physical condition. Construction on a replacement facility should have started at least a decade ago. That would have helped keep the price down by tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars.

The project, rising in the Civic Center on the block bounded by First, Second, Main and Spring streets, was opposed early on by area stakeholders who wanted a park on the site. That should not have stymied the building, but it should have spurred city officials to ensure that everything was in order with the development. Even when a groundbreaking took place in January, there were publicly stated expectations that the price would rise.

The project, expected to open in 2009, includes not just the main building, but nearby support facilities, among them a parking garage. Land acquisition costs for those other elements is uncertain, prompting city officials to warn recently that the budget remains unsettled for the development being constructed by Tutor-Saliba.

No one expects budgets for mega-projects to stay steady throughout construction; the unpredictable price of steel alone was always a cause of concern. But when costs rise to this degree, something is wrong somewhere else, too. The problem is almost certainly what it always is: change orders. They are difficult to plan for and contractors do not adequately allow for change orders in bids.

It inevitably turns out that some hole in the ground requires four scoops, not three. Or clay is being excavated, not the gravel that had been anticipated. Every adjustment in the construction means a change order. Every change order costs money not just for the extra work, but also for the paperwork required to bill for it.

On every major public project in memory, there has been a failure to plan for the cost of change orders. Every inch of every mile of MTA subway tunnel, it seemed, had some level of change order. As it happens, this sometimes involved the same contractor who is working on the police headquarters, Tutor-Saliba. To be fair, any contractor may well have charged for work not specifically in a bid, though maybe not every shovelful. The solution? Let's start with the city assuming responsibility and making plans so we don't hit $500 million. Or maybe this is where City Controller Laura Chick makes another splash with an audit.

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LAPD Headquarters - Sunday, Nov. 18

From 2nd and Spring:



From the LA Times parking garage:

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this thing is flying! i was there today.
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Wow, looks impressive, yet not oppressive. Just the image the police needs to project.
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