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malec · #**401** Posted **Dec 2, 2008, 11:44 AM**

[QUOTE=uaarkson;3946318]no word of official heights for these buildings yet?
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Which ones?

MolsonExport · #**402** Posted **Dec 2, 2008, 1:55 PM**

While all the construction in Dubai is very exciting, it is regrettable that there are superhighways running through the downtown urban fabric. It is sad that they have not learned from the mistakes made in North America in this regard. Perhaps it does not matter...given Dubai's climate/geography. But I firmly believe that great cities are walkable cities.

Tom In Chicago · #**403** Posted **Dec 2, 2008, 9:09 PM**

^That's a topic for another discussion. . . one that is in the City Issues subforum. . . please keep comments on topic. . .

malec · #**404** Posted **Dec 2, 2008, 10:56 PM**

Some more pictures from Imre from today. I think something went wrong with the jgeg compression or something yesterday.

23 Marina

The Torch and Princess Tower

Ocean Heights

The Pentominium and the core from Marina 101

malec · #**405** Posted **Dec 2, 2008, 10:56 PM**

Despite the financial crisis it seems they're still plowing ahead with most of these towers.

malec · #**406** Posted **Dec 11, 2008, 4:26 PM**

New height for damac heights
426m and 100 floors.

Fabb · #**407** Posted **Dec 11, 2008, 6:50 PM**

It's got 10 more floors and a 34 m reduction in height... I smell redesign.

mclancer · #**408** Posted **Dec 12, 2008, 8:47 AM**

Is there a map of this area?
Maybe with the building names?

malec · #**409** Posted **Dec 12, 2008, 9:29 AM**

^^ Yes I'm sure somewhere. Did you check the whole thread?

Fabb · #**410** Posted **Dec 12, 2008, 10:05 AM**

There it is :

And this rendering also helps a lot :

@Malec : maybe you should edit the first post and include the map and this rendering of the whole area.

malec · #**411** Posted **Dec 12, 2008, 10:53 AM**

I just made a new map since the heights on that one are a bit old

Fabb · #**412** Posted **Dec 12, 2008, 11:23 AM**

23 Marina is slow indeed.
It's now ten floors behind Mag 218 even though they were on a tie some time ago.

malec · #**413** Posted **Dec 17, 2008, 2:52 PM**

Just for fun I decided to calculate the density of the tallest block. Now this figure for the density is based only on the rentable/livable space and anything such as parking podiums, mechanical floors, elevator shafts, etc weren't taken into account. The final figure for the density is the ratio of useable space to total land area used (including roads).

Now I didn't check every single tower exactly since elite residence and marina 101 for example are pretty much the same as princess tower (area for each floor). What I did was find the area of all the apartments on a floor and multiply by the total floor count - 8 to 10 (this was to take away the podium and mechanical floors).

After doing this I came up with about 16.5 million square feet for the whole tallest block (this doesn't include parking podiums, mechanical floors, or cores. This is just the apartments). Now this is rough but I recon absolute minimum is 15m and absolute max is 18m square feet.

For the area of the whole place I didn't know exactly what to do but I counted half the roads around since they're used by the whole marina as well. Anyway, this is the area I took, I got 2.2m square feet. There's that little curvy edge at the bottom. I tried to make it up by taking in some water.

So you get a floor area ratio of 7.5 (isn't that very high? I can imagine that would be a Paris-like density of buildings but instead of them all 7 stories they'd all be 12 or 13 stories average)

Now this doesn't include:
1 G+unlimited undeveloped plot between marina 106 and pentominium
1 G+unlimited undeveloped plot between the torch and marina heights
The massive plot in front of the torch and marina heights.

Just for fun what would the density of the tallest block be had the marina sky towers been built along with two other 100-storey towers.
Marina sky towers - 5.8m square feet (I calculated this)
2 other towers - 2m square feet for the two

Total useable/rentable area: 24.3 million square feet.
Land to Floorspace ratio: 11

To imagine land to floorspace ratio of 11 I think if you think of Paris but make the average building 20 storeys instead of 7.

Imre · #**414** Posted **Dec 17, 2008, 4:14 PM**

17/December/2008

Dubai Marina, tallest block

Biff · #**415** Posted **Dec 17, 2008, 5:58 PM**

That's crazy - ten 1,000 ft plus towers in such a small area. Crazy!

mclancer · #**416** Posted **Dec 20, 2008, 6:31 AM**

To Malec & Fabb

Thanks for the maps & info.
Especially the new map, I have the old map.
I'm trying to make a Sketchup then
3Dmax versions of the marina area.
I'm just collecting data now.

Maybe if the buildings turn out, I may add them
to the 3D warehouse and Google Earth.

Have you guys seen this area in Google Earth?
The models and placement are terrible!
Its time someone fixed it, and I'm going to try...

malec · #**417** Posted **Dec 21, 2008, 6:44 PM**

Unfortunately my models are way too complex for google earth.

Anyway 23 marina is now rising again since the mechanical floor is done. Also apparantly a load of glass arrived so that should go up soon as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imre

21/December/2008

23 Marina

rising again

malec · #**418** Posted **Dec 26, 2008, 12:15 AM**

There's a new plot boarded up across the road from 23 marina, wondering what will go there. Hopefully a project board along with a render will be up soon

Picture taken by scoot28

malec · #**419** Posted **Jan 8, 2009, 3:52 PM**

^^ Turns out that's going to be a fire station.

Anyway some more updates from Imre:

Infinity Tower

23 Marina

Princess Tower

The Torch

Elite Residence (You can see the core popping out to the right of the torch)

Damac Heights (On Hold, piling contractor has left the site)

malec · #**420** Posted **Jan 8, 2009, 3:55 PM**

Construction pictures of Marina 101 from the developer