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Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000
NYguy was reviewing past proposals for the site, sort of a timeline. The design that most people seem to dislike is still what we have for now.
I'm certainly in the minority here, but if they do actually look like what's in the more detailed renders I'll be reasonably happy. They're not the best designs in the world, but it's been said before that Related is relatively conservative, and in this economy where not many large scale projects are moving forward, I'm happy that this one is.
And when this project is done in say, 7-10 years, these towers are going to have a lot of company, Girasole, Sheerwood Equities, MW, 15 Penn, the rest of the railyard, so there's still plenty to look forward to.
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Besides Girasole (I think),
all of those planned developments are also glass boxes. Maybe this is Related trying to break up the 'monotony' (they do--and it makes it WORSE), but I think this underscores the broader problem of how anything simple is relatively accepted these days. Would I really hate it if these were built? No. But I'm sure they could come up with something vastly more remarkable for the same cost of how this was designed.
This is really the case with most of the other neighboring developments we've seen, as well. 15 Penn, Manhattan West, and Sherwood's towers (given what we've seen of it) have all been shown to be... drumroll... giant glass boxes. None of them are bad, but none of them are great; just boring glass towers you would find in some random Chinese city.
There are some glass towers with great designs (IMO) that are getting built--the WTC Towers (besides 4, which is... a box, but still good), Carnegie 57, hopefully Torre Verre, and in London there's the Shard among several others. If we could just get one or two iconic glass skyscrapers in the entire development of the area, I guess I would be happy (iconic does not necessarily mean massively tall, although I think that could help this area dramatically).