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Old Posted Dec 13, 2007, 6:57 PM
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^^^That sounds like that could be an under ground parking structure with 1 floor above grade for access. Wasn't there supposed to be some underground parking on lot 22 also, below one of the towers? IDk just guessing here.
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Old Posted Dec 13, 2007, 7:01 PM
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Wasn't there supposed to be some underground parking on lot 22 also, below one of the towers? IDk just guessing here.
Block 22 is what it is talking about, with 5 stories below grade and 1 story above, 600,000 sq ft total.
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Also, what is the CMAR (Construction Manager At Risk)? I havn't heard this term before.
C & S Companies' Services page definition:

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Construction management at risk, or CM-at-risk, has proven to be an extremely beneficial project delivery method. It applies a contractor’s perspective and input to planning and design decisions and has the ability to fast track early components of construction. CM-at-risk allows a client to select a construction manager based on qualifications, making the CM a member of a collaborative project team—thus reducing risk for the client, the A/E firm, the CM, and subcontractors.

By making the CM-at-risk an integral member of the project team, responsibility for construction is centralized under a single contract. This approach produces a more manageable, predictable project that saves time and money.

CM-at-risk is similar in many ways to a design-bid-build approach. The CM acts as general contractor during construction, assuming the risk of subcontracting the work, and guaranteeing completion of the project.

A distinct advantage of CM-at-risk is that the client receives pre-construction services such as schedule, budget, and constructability reviews. We meet as often as necessary to ensure that we have a complete understanding of your goals and expectations. During pre-construction, our specialists review building systems, material selections, and site work to ensure that you are getting the best value.

To ensure a positive relationship, C&S engages in a number of practices to involve and benefit our clients. We are responsible for complete bid documents, pre-bid meetings, and a fair and competitive bid process. We share the results of all bids with the owner for review and final selection.

The at-risk approach gives clients the opportunity to begin construction prior to completion of the design. We can bid and subcontract portions of the work before design of unrelated scope are complete. C&S’s input and construction expertise early in the process can lead to the recommendation of increasing or reducing specifications for the project.

C&S’s clients benefit from our CM-at-risk services because our involvement begins at design. We provide construction advice during design while providing careful oversight of costs and schedule throughout construction.
Yes, I just stole all of that. I didn't see a C anywhere....
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2007, 6:17 PM
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Does anyone subscribe to AZRE? I just learned of this magazine and it is a great resource. Good articals on several projects. However, on the back cover is a rendering of the Wachovia Tower at Cityscapes. The building looks great but there is no sign at all of the condo tower in the rendering. I tried to convince myself that it was the angle of the rendering but I really don't think so, it looks like the condo tower has been removed from the rendering. Anyone know anything about this? Has RED decided to wait for the market to shift before they build the tall condo tower?

this is the link to the magazine website if anyone is interested
http://www.azbusinessmagazine.com/azre/index.html
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2007, 7:00 PM
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Well shit, thats not good. Are you able to scan it in so we can see the angle of the renderings?

Where did you pick it up again? I'll have to check it out myself.
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2007, 7:26 PM
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Does anyone subscribe to AZRE? I just learned of this magazine and it is a great resource. Good articals on several projects. However, on the back cover is a rendering of the Wachovia Tower at Cityscapes. The building looks great but there is no sign at all of the condo tower in the rendering. I tried to convince myself that it was the angle of the rendering but I really don't think so, it looks like the condo tower has been removed from the rendering. Anyone know anything about this? Has RED decided to wait for the market to shift before they build the tall condo tower?

this is the link to the magazine website if anyone is interested
http://www.azbusinessmagazine.com/azre/index.html
Where's the rendering? Don't see it...
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2007, 7:32 PM
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Alright, here's what I was able to find out...

Red Development is only showing the Wachovia tower in some of their ads because the ads are geared toward the commercial office market. They have similar ads out that do show both towers. I'm told that they have had some great meeting on the condo tower recently and everything is moving full steam ahead.

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Great info HX_Guy... that Wachovia Tower looks TALL in that picture. I'm surprised they didn't mention light rail in the ad when they were talking about the stuff CityScape has easy access to.

I like CPE better, I think it is a better design, but it will be great to see them both rising at the same time.

When is the Wachovia Tower supposed to be under construction? I can't find that post within this thread where the projected start dates for each phase/tower was given.
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2007, 8:20 PM
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Glad to hear its moving along. That rendering scared me for a minute.
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2007, 9:38 PM
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Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger,Archdevil.
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2007, 10:42 PM
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That is a great angle, making for a really attractive promo shot.

I don't think they have a firm schedule for any of the buildings just yet. There's a lot of sitework that needs to be done for the parking garages, clearing the sites, and so on, so I think actual construction schedules are kind of dependent on other things right now.
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Old Posted Dec 17, 2007, 11:25 PM
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omg please quit pushing the panic buttons on cityscape. you all are going to give me a freakin heart attack before i am 24

thanks for getting the scoop about the renderings and the promotional ads HX_Guy.

Whew :cheers to Cityscape
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Old Posted Dec 18, 2007, 11:47 PM
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The photo looks so much like Colliers Center. The brickwork at the bottom with the retail pavilion behind it. Does anyone else think it does? Not necessarily a bad thing, just wishing a bit more for something unique.
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^I kind of think that flagstone work is going to continue to be very popular and become part of the 'look' of downtown Phoenix. You see it at Colliers, the Convention Center, and I think the county court building has it as well. It looks nice to me, so I certainly don't mind it.

It has a certain southwest look to it, with out being overly southwesty and corny (like the crappy art you see in galleries in Scottsdale), but it also looks clean and modern, so I give it a thumbs up.

EDIT: I forgot, Summit has a similar type facade around the parking garage and retail area as well, so add that to my list! In a way perhaps this will become Phoenixs equivalent of the extensive brickwork you see in other rust belt/Eastern cities.

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Old Posted Dec 18, 2007, 11:57 PM
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^I kind of think that flagstone work is going to continue to be very popular and become part of the 'look' of downtown Phoenix. You see it at Colliers, the Convention Center, and I think the county court building has it as well. It looks nice to me, so I certainly don't mind it.

It has a certain southwest look to it, with out being overly southwesty and corny (like the crappy art you see in galleries in Scottsdale), but it also looks clean and modern, so I give it a thumbs up.
i agree
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2007, 12:57 AM
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The flagstone work does look nice. Additionally I would like to see artistic designs tastefully done, interspersed at key locations through out Cityscape. Something showcasing regional cultural and geographical influence, past and present. That would look pretty cool I think.
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2007, 7:16 AM
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"Reconstruction of Patriots Square park, which is part of the CityScape project, is set to begin. The site will be fenced off Wednesday. The tentative construction timeline calls for the park to be reopened in late 2009."

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...undup1220.html
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2007, 6:45 AM
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A big jump in permitting on 12/20...this is a good sign...

FLSR-07004 12/20/07 OPEN CITYSCAPE
Description/Scope of Work: FIRE LIFE SATETY REPORT
THIS FIRE SAFETY REPORT IS FOR: NEW 45 STORY HOTEL, 27 STORY OFFICE, RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL


LPRN-0705627 1 E WASHINGTON ST 12/20/07 OPEN PLACE HOLDER FOR PHAS PROJECT

PHAS-0705627-01 12/20/07 OPEN CITYSCAPE
Description/Scope of Work: COMMERCIAL NEW
DESCRIPTION OF WORK: BELOW GRADES PARKING STRUCTURE, PIPING ONLY, BEL.
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2007, 9:12 AM
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Still mentions a 45 story hotel, maybe it won't be scaled back afterall.
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2007, 4:36 PM
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...and yet another permit pops up, I love it!

LARGE PLAN REVIEW-REMODEL
Permit# LPRR-0705628 Issue Date 12/20/07 Expires 12/19/08
Project 06-5309 CITYSCAPE


Description/Scope of Work: COMMERCIAL REMODEL

DESCRIPTION OF WORK: DEMO OF EXISTING SURFACE STRUCTURES & INSTALLATION OF NEW VEHICLE RAMP IN EXISTING GARAGE. REMODEL TO AFFECTED M/P/E SYSTEMS.
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