The 21 most influential cities in the world

[edale]

Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Fiction. The best pizza in town is really sort of an imitation of tri-state (NY, NJ, Conn.) pizza but with an emphasis on fresh/artisanal ingredients California-style. But IMHO I'd prefer a NY coal-fired oven pizza over anything in this town.

San Francisco Italian immigrants came from northern Italy mostly. The city's signature dish, cioppino, is really Genoese. There's really not much of a tradition of pizza here. What we have instead is celebrity chefs trying to make "haute" pizza. Puh-leeze!

Cheeseboard in Berkeley has some of my favorite pizza anywhere. They make a different type of pizza every day, but usually repeat the same basic combo of flavors. My favorite that they make has corn, zucchini, onion, mozzarella and Valbreso feta cheese; garnished with cilantro and fresh lime. So good.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by edale

Cheeseboard in Berkeley has some of my favorite pizza anywhere. They make a different type of pizza every day, but usually repeat the same basic combo of flavors. My favorite that they make has corn, zucchini, onion, mozzarella and Valbreso feta cheese; garnished with cilantro and fresh lime. So good.

Originally Posted by edale

The constant discussion of pizza on this forum is really fucking stupid.

you're a confusing person.

[edale]

Well it is dumb, but when in Rome...

[Xing]

Originally Posted by JManc

I just learned SF has it's own pizza style. Now it truly is a real city to be celebrated.

To be a real city in this country you need your own pizza.

[ThePhun1]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

he was born and raised in new orleans, but he's been living in LA for the past 4 decades.

Yeah, that's a ton of people. If we gave LA credit for every person that's lived there for decades after being raised somewhere else, they'd have an unfair advantage. Frankly, it's almost better to credit LA with people whose families have been there for at least two generations or didn't move there/wasn't born to people living a famous lifestyle.

[JManc]

Originally Posted by edale

Well it is dumb, but when in Rome...

Rome has pretty good pizza.

[ThePhun1]

If I became famous as a child, I'd be a legit LA person of influence and not someone who just moved there because of work.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by ThePhun1

If we gave LA credit for every person that's lived there for decades after being raised somewhere else

credit? credit for what?

people live where they live.

if someone was born and raised in chicago, but then moved to a boston as a young adult and proceeded to live in boston for 4 decades, that person is a bostonian. after 4 decades away, they certainly aren't a chicagoan anymore.

Originally Posted by ThePhun1

they'd have an unfair advantage.

unfair advantage in terms of what?

richard simmons has lived in LA for over 40 years. he's an angeleno now.

[iheartthed]

influential adjective

1. having or exerting influence, especially great influence:

Using the definition of influential, and extrapolating that to understand that the most influential cities would have demonstrated reach beyond their own borders, my list of 21 most influential cities in the world (why 21? Such an odd number, no pun):

1. New York (obvious)
2. London (obvious)
3. Paris (obvious)
4. San Francisco (obvious? tech)
5. Washington, D.C. (obvious? Seat of world's most powerful gov't)
6. Beijing (obvious)
7. Berlin (Seat of Europe's most powerful gov't)
8. Tokyo (obvious)
9. Moscow (obvious)
10. Mexico City (largest urban area in North America, and Latin America, second largest in world)
11. São Paulo (financial center of Latin America)
12. Dubai (culture hub of Middle East)
13. Mumbai (economic and cultural hub of world's second largest country)
14. Seoul (financial hub, mediator of world's most recent nuclear crisis)
15. Toronto (immigration hub)
16. Lagos (center of Africa's biggest economy)
17. Johannesburg (biggest city in Africa's richest country)
18. Barcelona (immigration hub, economic center of Spain)
19. Sydney (immigration hub, economic center of south APAC)
20. Istanbul (crossroads between Europe and Asia)
21. Buenos Aires (Latin American immigrant hub)

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

credit? credit for what?

people live where they live.

if someone was born and raised in chicago, but then moved to a boston as a young adult and proceeded to live in boston for 4 decades, that person is a bostonian. after 4 decades away, they certainly aren't a chicagoan anymore.

Don't try to pawn Kanye West off on L.A.

[JManc]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

credit? credit for what?

people live where they live.

if someone was born and raised in chicago, but then moved to a boston as a young adult and proceeded to live in boston for 4 decades, that person is a bostonian. after 4 decades away, they certainly aren't a chicagoan anymore.




unfair advantage in terms of what?

richard simmons has lived in LA for over 40 years. he's an angeleno now.

Yeah. After 21 years, I am more or less a Houstonian at this point. I refuse to identify as a Texan though.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

Don't try to pawn Kanye West off on L.A.

i don't have to.

he did it himself.

btw, he was born in atlanta, so that city is ultimately responsible for bringing the world's greatest ass-hat into existence.

[Pedestrian]

Originally Posted by edale

Cheeseboard in Berkeley has some of my favorite pizza anywhere. They make a different type of pizza every day, but usually repeat the same basic combo of flavors. My favorite that they make has corn, zucchini, onion, mozzarella and Valbreso feta cheese; garnished with cilantro and fresh lime. So good.

I don't like zucchini and I think corn on pizza is showing off. The feta's OK (that's the brand I buy for use at home) but why put Greek cheese on an Italian staple? And lime?

That's what I mean about Bay Area food. I think they need to do the basics well before they try to push the envelope. My own favorite pizza is probably anchovy with a sprinkle of fresh minced garlic. Simple and good.

[Steely Dan]

the best pizza topping combo of all time (in my not so humble opinion):

- super-fennelly italian Sausage
- white Onion
- hot mix Giardiniera

i've been trying to find a better combo of flavors, but i always return to the S.O.G.

fortunately, my wife agrees with me, so we never have issues. ain't no soulmate like a pizza soulmate!

[Boisebro]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

Using the definition of influential, and extrapolating that to understand that the most influential cities would have demonstrated reach beyond their own borders, my list of 21 most influential cities in the world (why 21? Such an odd number, no pun):

1. New York (obvious)
2. London (obvious)
3. Paris (obvious)
4. San Francisco (obvious? tech)
5. Washington, D.C. (obvious? Seat of world's most powerful gov't)
6. Beijing (obvious)
7. Berlin (Seat of Europe's most powerful gov't)
8. Tokyo (obvious)
9. Moscow (obvious)
10. Mexico City (largest urban area in North America, and Latin America, second largest in world)
11. São Paulo (financial center of Latin America)
12. Dubai (culture hub of Middle East)
13. Mumbai (economic and cultural hub of world's second largest country)
14. Seoul (financial hub, mediator of world's most recent nuclear crisis)
15. Toronto (immigration hub)
16. Lagos (center of Africa's biggest economy)
17. Johannesburg (biggest city in Africa's richest country)
18. Barcelona (immigration hub, economic center of Spain)
19. Sydney (immigration hub, economic center of south APAC)
20. Istanbul (crossroads between Europe and Asia)
21. Buenos Aires (Latin American immigrant hub)

this list needs to be updated to rank each city by their PIZZA influence.

methinks the list would look a tad different.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I don't like zucchini and I think corn on pizza is showing off. The feta's OK (that's the brand I buy for use at home) but why put Greek cheese on an Italian staple? And lime?

That's what I mean about Bay Area food. I think they need to do the basics well before they try to push the envelope. My own favorite pizza is probably anchovy with a sprinkle of fresh minced garlic. Simple and good.

Thanks for saying what I was thinking. That pizza sounds gross.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by Boisebro

this list needs to be updated to rank each city by their PIZZA influence.

methinks the list would look a tad different.

Pizza influence

1. Chicago
2. New York
3. Italy



4. Anyplace in California








5. Everywhere else

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Vienna is one of my favorite cities, but how is it globally influential nowadays?

Courtesy of walmart

[Steely Dan]

^ what is that, sausages in a can?

yikes.......




for the real deal:


source: https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicag...nt?oid=3759384

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

5. Everywhere else

seriously dude, get yourself down to fat chris's in andersonville.

detroit-style is as legit as anything else.